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		<title>By: Anthea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stand up and be a citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-43412</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stand up and be a citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stand up and be a citizen Submitted by Anthea Garman As a result of chairing 10 Winter School talks (at this point) I’ve started to feel a growing a sense of urgency about being a South African, a citizen and a member of a civil society in need of revival. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stand up and be a citizen Submitted by Anthea Garman As a result of chairing 10 Winter School talks (at this point) I’ve started to feel a growing a sense of urgency about being a South African, a citizen and a member of a civil society in need of revival. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-42969</link>
		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ThembaB - I totally concur . Why is it that citizens are always called &quot;to take a stance?&quot; Does anybody actually truly believe the government listens to its citizens?
Anthea - sorry to burst your bubble, but ordinary citizens like us that want the country to succeed are meaningless to the government. Do you really believe they care about what we want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ThembaB &#8211; I totally concur . Why is it that citizens are always called &#8220;to take a stance?&#8221; Does anybody actually truly believe the government listens to its citizens?<br />
Anthea &#8211; sorry to burst your bubble, but ordinary citizens like us that want the country to succeed are meaningless to the government. Do you really believe they care about what we want?</p>
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		<title>By: Where are the citizens? &#124; SA Rocks</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-42765</link>
		<dc:creator>Where are the citizens? &#124; SA Rocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Garman (once a lecturer of mine at Rhodes University) wrote a fantastic post on Thought Leader this week. I don&#8217;t want to add too much commentary but felt this post to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Garman (once a lecturer of mine at Rhodes University) wrote a fantastic post on Thought Leader this week. I don&#8217;t want to add too much commentary but felt this post to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stevie Wonder</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-42668</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevie Wonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evaporation of goodwill post 1994? I&#039;m on an extended trip abroad &amp; have been purchasing the Irish Times daily. The Zim issue and Mbeki&#039;s part has been well aired, the letters page has provided the ANC with an ongoing roasting. The free world is aghast - Goodwill has been truly vaporised.
The post anti apartheid free world campaigners of old are aghast at what the ANC government has come to stand for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evaporation of goodwill post 1994? I&#8217;m on an extended trip abroad &amp; have been purchasing the Irish Times daily. The Zim issue and Mbeki&#8217;s part has been well aired, the letters page has provided the ANC with an ongoing roasting. The free world is aghast &#8211; Goodwill has been truly vaporised.<br />
The post anti apartheid free world campaigners of old are aghast at what the ANC government has come to stand for!</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmie Weeks on Ending Poverty In Africa &#124; Ramon Thomas Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-42650</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmie Weeks on Ending Poverty In Africa &#124; Ramon Thomas Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For every Charles Taylor there has to be a Kimmie Weeks. I am re-post this video on because I want to help South Africans identify with and cultivate more inspirational leaders. You may have read the call for more inspirational leaders by Clem Sunter, South Africa&#8217;s leading expert on scenario planning at a recent conference in Johannesburg. Clem does most of his talks about whatever his most recent book is, and in this case it&#8217;s Socrates and the Fox. Some more details about his views on leadership was mentioned in a blog by Anthea Garman. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For every Charles Taylor there has to be a Kimmie Weeks. I am re-post this video on because I want to help South Africans identify with and cultivate more inspirational leaders. You may have read the call for more inspirational leaders by Clem Sunter, South Africa&#8217;s leading expert on scenario planning at a recent conference in Johannesburg. Clem does most of his talks about whatever his most recent book is, and in this case it&#8217;s Socrates and the Fox. Some more details about his views on leadership was mentioned in a blog by Anthea Garman. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-42632</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry

Vote for an opposition party - ANY one. ALL their policies are more democratic than the ANC, and they are in agreement on all the main issues - Scorpions, crime, trnasparency, accountability etc etc.

What bugs me most is the ANC claim that 70% of the people voted for them. 36% of the people did not vote last election. Only 64% of the population voted. That means that the ANC got 70% of 64% of the vote. IF everyone would vote and vote with their conscience we might get an opposition co-elition government, not another Zanu-PF which the ANC is fast becoming.

The 2009 election will be our last chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry</p>
<p>Vote for an opposition party &#8211; ANY one. ALL their policies are more democratic than the ANC, and they are in agreement on all the main issues &#8211; Scorpions, crime, trnasparency, accountability etc etc.</p>
<p>What bugs me most is the ANC claim that 70% of the people voted for them. 36% of the people did not vote last election. Only 64% of the population voted. That means that the ANC got 70% of 64% of the vote. IF everyone would vote and vote with their conscience we might get an opposition co-elition government, not another Zanu-PF which the ANC is fast becoming.</p>
<p>The 2009 election will be our last chance.</p>
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		<title>By: T Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis, and great sentiments - thank you Anthea Garman.
For a suggested solution to some of the problems raised, please have a look at my new posting called &quot;Mzansi fo sho&quot; on http://sketchesbyboz37.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis, and great sentiments &#8211; thank you Anthea Garman.<br />
For a suggested solution to some of the problems raised, please have a look at my new posting called &#8220;Mzansi fo sho&#8221; on <a href="http://sketchesbyboz37.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://sketchesbyboz37.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyndall - Zimbabwe did squat - Mad Bob is still waving his sceptre.

Who would we vote for?  The pathetic little wet ends of an opposition?  there is no one left to vote for.  My DA vote is not a vote FOR the opposition, but rather a vote AGAINST the ANC.  

Who in this country has a political platform based on solid policies?  micky Mouse, thats who.  And the Tooth Fairy.

The ANC has a voter base based on personality, not policy, the DA only has one policy - disagree with everything ANC, and as for the rest, all I know about the IFP is that it has a policy of long speeches, the ID is one woman, a dog and a fax machine (In my opinion neither Independent nor Democratic), the FF+ would be funny if they were not so sad, and the rest a bunch of also-rans and never-were&#039;s.  

Give me somone to vote for, please!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyndall &#8211; Zimbabwe did squat &#8211; Mad Bob is still waving his sceptre.</p>
<p>Who would we vote for?  The pathetic little wet ends of an opposition?  there is no one left to vote for.  My DA vote is not a vote FOR the opposition, but rather a vote AGAINST the ANC.  </p>
<p>Who in this country has a political platform based on solid policies?  micky Mouse, thats who.  And the Tooth Fairy.</p>
<p>The ANC has a voter base based on personality, not policy, the DA only has one policy &#8211; disagree with everything ANC, and as for the rest, all I know about the IFP is that it has a policy of long speeches, the ID is one woman, a dog and a fax machine (In my opinion neither Independent nor Democratic), the FF+ would be funny if they were not so sad, and the rest a bunch of also-rans and never-were&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>Give me somone to vote for, please!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ThembaB</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-42586</link>
		<dc:creator>ThembaB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthea - You simply state the obvious. We know that there is a critical lack of leadership in the country, we know that 1994 goodwill is being squandered. What do you suggest we do about it aside from &quot;stand up and be a citizen&quot;? It&#039;s all good and well throwing patriotic cliches around, but essentially that amounts to nothing, no better than a dog chasing it&#039;s tale. Suggest a concrete action plan for resolving our issues and then you will be doing something constructive about the state of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthea &#8211; You simply state the obvious. We know that there is a critical lack of leadership in the country, we know that 1994 goodwill is being squandered. What do you suggest we do about it aside from &#8220;stand up and be a citizen&#8221;? It&#8217;s all good and well throwing patriotic cliches around, but essentially that amounts to nothing, no better than a dog chasing it&#8217;s tale. Suggest a concrete action plan for resolving our issues and then you will be doing something constructive about the state of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/winterschool/2008/06/29/stand-up-and-be-a-citizen/comment-page-1/#comment-42562</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ANC was a liberation movement to be proud of. Now its name is all that remains - in the hands of a bunch of thugs.

VOTE THEM OUT!

If Zimbabwe can do it - so can we!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ANC was a liberation movement to be proud of. Now its name is all that remains &#8211; in the hands of a bunch of thugs.</p>
<p>VOTE THEM OUT!</p>
<p>If Zimbabwe can do it &#8211; so can we!</p>
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