Comments on: Young bums in search of some butter http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tsak http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106123 tsak Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:59:44 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106123 You can complain, but an ignorant and uneducated electorate (with their cultural back broken by the apartheid regime), who generally have no idea of the functioning of a constitutional democracy, fall easy victim to the bangs and whistles of the ANC propaganda machine - so it's easy for morons to stay in power, and it doesn't matter if they are corrupt or cynical, because shouting and screaming is more effective than logic and rational thought - an uneducated public is a godsend to morons at the top, and it'll stay that way forever. You can complain, but an ignorant and uneducated electorate (with their cultural back broken by the apartheid regime), who generally have no idea of the functioning of a constitutional democracy, fall easy victim to the bangs and whistles of the ANC propaganda machine – so it’s easy for morons to stay in power, and it doesn’t matter if they are corrupt or cynical, because shouting and screaming is more effective than logic and rational thought – an uneducated public is a godsend to morons at the top, and it’ll stay that way forever.

]]> By: Banana http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106091 Banana Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:18:04 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106091 Spot on Mark Robertson Spot on Mark Robertson

]]> By: Beer bottle http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106090 Beer bottle Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:12:21 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106090 Malema is no Hitler...he is more like a beer bottle...empty from the neck up Malema is no Hitler…he is more like a beer bottle…empty from the neck up

]]> By: William SM http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106083 William SM Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:19:01 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106083 Rory and Marvin Caldwell-Barr raise an important point, as to whether Zuma truly rates Malema. I based my assertion on the fact that a foreign correspondent I know and whose opinion I value, interviewed Zuma a few months back and was left in no doubt that this is the case. Zuma articulated his belief that Malema will 'grow out' of his idiocies and become, in his words, a 'great leader'. Rory and Marvin Caldwell-Barr raise an important point, as to whether Zuma truly rates Malema. I based my assertion on the fact that a foreign correspondent I know and whose opinion I value, interviewed Zuma a few months back and was left in no doubt that this is the case. Zuma articulated his belief that Malema will ‘grow out’ of his idiocies and become, in his words, a ‘great leader’.

]]> By: Banana http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106077 Banana Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:41:09 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106077 Is it just me or have we seen the calibre of political leaders deteriorate rapidly since Madibe...just like the standard of education in this country...the bar is being lowered at an alarming rate to accommodate the likes of President Jacob Zuma (who apparently has a charming personality (just what a country needs from its leader to get the job done) and is cadress. Goodness knows what standards this country will have have achieved when Julius Malema is one day heralded as President of South Africa. Wow! haven’t we would have come such along way in such a short period of time…Viva! Really? Is it just me or have we seen the calibre of political leaders deteriorate rapidly since Madibe…just like the standard of education in this country…the bar is being lowered at an alarming rate to accommodate the likes of President Jacob Zuma (who apparently has a charming personality (just what a country needs from its leader to get the job done) and is cadress. Goodness knows what standards this country will have have achieved when Julius Malema is one day heralded as President of South Africa. Wow! haven’t we would have come such along way in such a short period of time…Viva! Really?

]]> By: chris http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106065 chris Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:21:23 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106065 Great stuff. And true. Malema and his brigade of sycophantic buffoons are the Boswell Wilkie circus of politics. I do wonder if Zuma meant it though, likeable as he is, he seems weak and willing to say whatever he think will please. Great stuff. And true. Malema and his brigade of sycophantic buffoons are the Boswell Wilkie circus of politics. I do wonder if Zuma meant it though, likeable as he is, he seems weak and willing to say whatever he think will please.

]]> By: V3 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106058 V3 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:17:23 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106058 "THE single biggest factor ... behind the Malema phenomenon ... is the continued opposition of the previously privileged" - Dave Harris Odd that Jeremy Cronin should think that it was "bling" and others (blacks in the ANC) also think it's lust for power. "These tensions are based on bourgeoisie interests and people who want positions. ..." said [Billy] Masetlha. [http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article238166.ece] Did being nurtured by Winnie, she of the multi-million personal gold jewellery collection for herself and "necklaces" and "matches liberation" for others (blacks)who opposed her, not contribute in any way? Just asking. “THE single biggest factor … behind the Malema phenomenon … is the continued opposition of the previously privileged” – Dave Harris

Odd that Jeremy Cronin should think that it was “bling” and others (blacks in the ANC) also think it’s lust for power. “These tensions are based on bourgeoisie interests and people who want positions. …” said [Billy] Masetlha. [http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article238166.ece]

Did being nurtured by Winnie, she of the multi-million personal gold jewellery collection for herself and “necklaces” and “matches liberation” for others (blacks)who opposed her, not contribute in any way?

Just asking.

]]> By: dj http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106049 dj Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:47:42 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106049 Take him serious...Zuma and all the other cronies do. It's the youth and they are calling the tune. The greedy ANC are scared of them. It's clear Take him serious…Zuma and all the other cronies do. It’s the youth and they are calling the tune. The greedy ANC are scared of them. It’s clear

]]> By: Mark Robertson http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106042 Mark Robertson Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:49:21 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106042 I certainly wouldn't find it appropriate to compare Mr Malema to Hitler. The latter, despite his noxious political beliefs, was an ascetic, living simply, a vegetarian teetotaller who frequently reprimanded his Gauleiters for their excesses and indulgences. He had no particular desire for personal wealth or spoils, as is clear when studying his history carefully. Hermann Goering might be a more apposite comparison - a 'well rounded' figure with an appetite for all the good things in life, from fine dress (Nero-like togas), make-up, lavish parties (spot the similarities) and French cognac and champagne, to art treasures from the Louvre and the Vatican, all displayed in the magnificent Carinhall. He also wasn't terribly wedded to ideology for its own sake ...'I joined the party because it was revolutionary, not for any ideological reasons'. Perhaps a more appropriate comparison. I certainly wouldn’t find it appropriate to compare Mr Malema to Hitler. The latter, despite his noxious political beliefs, was an ascetic, living simply, a vegetarian teetotaller who frequently reprimanded his Gauleiters for their excesses and indulgences. He had no particular desire for personal wealth or spoils, as is clear when studying his history carefully. Hermann Goering might be a more apposite comparison – a ‘well rounded’ figure with an appetite for all the good things in life, from fine dress (Nero-like togas), make-up, lavish parties (spot the similarities) and French cognac and champagne, to art treasures from the Louvre and the Vatican, all displayed in the magnificent Carinhall. He also wasn’t terribly wedded to ideology for its own sake …’I joined the party because it was revolutionary, not for any ideological reasons’. Perhaps a more appropriate comparison.

]]> By: Rest in (millions of) Pieces http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/comment-page-1/#comment-106037 Rest in (millions of) Pieces Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:47:16 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2009/12/19/young-bums-in-search-of-some-butter/#comment-106037 (joining the others in pasting a gold star on yer forehead)... So true. Let us not - ever - forget that some (most?) of the worst and most deadly tinpot dictators (and other low-lifes) in history started their despicable careers while not being taken seriously by the general populace. Nero... Napoleon... Hitler... Stalin... Idi Amin... Pol Pot... (joining the others in pasting a gold star on yer forehead)…

So true. Let us not – ever – forget that some (most?) of the worst and most deadly tinpot dictators (and other low-lifes) in history started their despicable careers while not being taken seriously by the general populace.

Nero… Napoleon… Hitler… Stalin… Idi Amin… Pol Pot…

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