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		<title>By: Hugh Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is one for all of you who think that we should be told what others think we must know. This is what happens when you allows others to think for you. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230635/Scientist-climate-change-cover-storm-told-quit.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one for all of you who think that we should be told what others think we must know. This is what happens when you allows others to think for you. <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230635/Scientist-climate-change-cover-storm-told-quit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230635/Scientist-climate-change-cover-storm-told-quit.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cactus. Yes I agree. It is good then that we do not believe all that the government says.

@daveharris. Like you I am the perfect example of  the ANC version of a SA white racist. If this was not a censored site to protect people like you.  What I write would have you s***ing your pants. 

Bye the bye in place of insults how about proving my finding wrong. Follow Mayers example and read even if the info you find is on the internet.

William I am very disappointed that you censor this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cactus. Yes I agree. It is good then that we do not believe all that the government says.</p>
<p>@daveharris. Like you I am the perfect example of  the ANC version of a SA white racist. If this was not a censored site to protect people like you.  What I write would have you s***ing your pants. </p>
<p>Bye the bye in place of insults how about proving my finding wrong. Follow Mayers example and read even if the info you find is on the internet.</p>
<p>William I am very disappointed that you censor this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hugh Robinson
The one thing crazier than a Looney is a racist looney who claims &quot;Africa murders more innocent people during non conflict than any other since the world war.”

Racist loonies derive their oxygen by concocting lies and deliberately  spread misinformation to portray blacks, especially Africans, as subhumans prone to violence and corruption while ignoring the real perpetrators of violence and corruption for the last thousand years on our planet. Congratulations Hugh Robinson, you have finally figured out an apt self describing category.  
Not bad for a bikini salesman, eh? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hugh Robinson<br />
The one thing crazier than a Looney is a racist looney who claims &#8220;Africa murders more innocent people during non conflict than any other since the world war.”</p>
<p>Racist loonies derive their oxygen by concocting lies and deliberately  spread misinformation to portray blacks, especially Africans, as subhumans prone to violence and corruption while ignoring the real perpetrators of violence and corruption for the last thousand years on our planet. Congratulations Hugh Robinson, you have finally figured out an apt self describing category.<br />
Not bad for a bikini salesman, eh? <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cactus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cactus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hugh Robinson

Using your definition of a &#039;loony&#039;(swimming against the stream) there are more than one type of loony.

There are those &#039;loonys&#039; that question mainstream &#039;wisdom&#039; with good reason. Whether they are right or wrong, good for them. 

Then there are loonys like flat earthers, who no matter how conclusive the evidence they stick to and propagate their belief that the earth is flat.

When people question mainstream climate science it is good. When you have fundamentalist nutters like the flat earthers who spew out absolute garbage dressed as science, you are dealing with a &#039;loony&#039; out of touch with reality. No reputable national or international scientific body has challenged the IPCC on CO2 from our industrial era contributing to climate change since 2007, only the flat earth type loony&#039;s who throw crap at the wall and dub it scientific. Added to that, their perpetual rubbish is funded to a large part by vested interests. Is that not a warning bell? Remember smoking &#039;did not cause cancer&#039; DDT was harmless, GM foods are as safe as water and produce higher yields, ha, ha..

Always question, always be a bit of a &#039;loony&#039; which is what a real scientist does, but intelligent people should dismiss the loony&#039;s who trot out propaganda on behalf of vested interests.

Why give them 50% of the space in the mainstream media to fundamentalist loonys, which according to the author of this article we are protected against by relying on main newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hugh Robinson</p>
<p>Using your definition of a &#8216;loony&#8217;(swimming against the stream) there are more than one type of loony.</p>
<p>There are those &#8216;loonys&#8217; that question mainstream &#8216;wisdom&#8217; with good reason. Whether they are right or wrong, good for them. </p>
<p>Then there are loonys like flat earthers, who no matter how conclusive the evidence they stick to and propagate their belief that the earth is flat.</p>
<p>When people question mainstream climate science it is good. When you have fundamentalist nutters like the flat earthers who spew out absolute garbage dressed as science, you are dealing with a &#8216;loony&#8217; out of touch with reality. No reputable national or international scientific body has challenged the IPCC on CO2 from our industrial era contributing to climate change since 2007, only the flat earth type loony&#8217;s who throw crap at the wall and dub it scientific. Added to that, their perpetual rubbish is funded to a large part by vested interests. Is that not a warning bell? Remember smoking &#8216;did not cause cancer&#8217; DDT was harmless, GM foods are as safe as water and produce higher yields, ha, ha..</p>
<p>Always question, always be a bit of a &#8216;loony&#8217; which is what a real scientist does, but intelligent people should dismiss the loony&#8217;s who trot out propaganda on behalf of vested interests.</p>
<p>Why give them 50% of the space in the mainstream media to fundamentalist loonys, which according to the author of this article we are protected against by relying on main newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.......... AND - Breaker Morant was an innocent scapegoat of the British Imperial Forces and should be given a full posthumous pardon as well..... 
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/2009/2744388.htm

Why not - everyone else is bring up the past here - so while we are all at it- why not go back and pardon Pontious the Pilate as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. AND &#8211; Breaker Morant was an innocent scapegoat of the British Imperial Forces and should be given a full posthumous pardon as well&#8230;..<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/2009/2744388.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/2009/2744388.htm</a></p>
<p>Why not &#8211; everyone else is bring up the past here &#8211; so while we are all at it- why not go back and pardon Pontious the Pilate as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hugh Robinson
Much of the cholesterol myth is still around: Are you aware that LDL (often called bad cholesterol) comes in two varieties, one bad and one neutral? The neutral variety enters the blood when one eats fat, and the bad variety from carbs, in particular fructose - when one eats whole fruit, the fructose is consumed harmlessly in the gut, as the fibre prevents the fructose from hitting the liver, but with refined food, all of it hits the liver. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sugar, the Bitter Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

@Brett Nortje - I&#039;ll answer you (on the count of millions, rather than the 100 000s being discussed here) in the next three or four days - the issue being the number of dead due to famines that were made worse by the British presence (much like the Irish potato famine, during which Ireland produced twice its own caloric needs, but had to export most of it) - I&#039;m swamped by work right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hugh Robinson<br />
Much of the cholesterol myth is still around: Are you aware that LDL (often called bad cholesterol) comes in two varieties, one bad and one neutral? The neutral variety enters the blood when one eats fat, and the bad variety from carbs, in particular fructose &#8211; when one eats whole fruit, the fructose is consumed harmlessly in the gut, as the fibre prevents the fructose from hitting the liver, but with refined food, all of it hits the liver. See <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM" rel="nofollow">Sugar, the Bitter Truth</a>.</p>
<p>@Brett Nortje &#8211; I&#8217;ll answer you (on the count of millions, rather than the 100 000s being discussed here) in the next three or four days &#8211; the issue being the number of dead due to famines that were made worse by the British presence (much like the Irish potato famine, during which Ireland produced twice its own caloric needs, but had to export most of it) &#8211; I&#8217;m swamped by work right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Nortje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Nortje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shooting of twenty Kenyans genocide? You&#039;re kidding, right? Remind us quickly:

1) How many Kenyans Meyer claimed had been killed
2) How many Kenyans died in the MauMau uprising
3) How many white South Africans have been murdered since 1994
4) How many Kenyans were killed in the violence that accompanied the election and the Mugabeing of election results?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shooting of twenty Kenyans genocide? You&#8217;re kidding, right? Remind us quickly:</p>
<p>1) How many Kenyans Meyer claimed had been killed<br />
2) How many Kenyans died in the MauMau uprising<br />
3) How many white South Africans have been murdered since 1994<br />
4) How many Kenyans were killed in the violence that accompanied the election and the Mugabeing of election results?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reading the many arguments and diversions one thought has struck me. 

On average a Loony is one who swims against the flow. 

Is it not true to say that, like politics it is those who control the mainstream or the flavour of the moment who have more say on how to determine what is Looney what is not?

Remember when were told that cholesterol was bad. The media world and every health nut went crazy.

 Until some bloody Loony said, &quot;hold on there is good and bad cholesterol&quot;. &quot;We need this to live.&quot; It took almost ten years before the Loony was proved right.

Create a lie, reinforce the lie with other lies and some sucker in the media will take up your cause and it will eventually, if well structured be believed by all. We need Loonies to swim against the flow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading the many arguments and diversions one thought has struck me. </p>
<p>On average a Loony is one who swims against the flow. </p>
<p>Is it not true to say that, like politics it is those who control the mainstream or the flavour of the moment who have more say on how to determine what is Looney what is not?</p>
<p>Remember when were told that cholesterol was bad. The media world and every health nut went crazy.</p>
<p> Until some bloody Loony said, &#8220;hold on there is good and bad cholesterol&#8221;. &#8220;We need this to live.&#8221; It took almost ten years before the Loony was proved right.</p>
<p>Create a lie, reinforce the lie with other lies and some sucker in the media will take up your cause and it will eventually, if well structured be believed by all. We need Loonies to swim against the flow.</p>
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		<title>By: MuAfrika</title>
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		<dc:creator>MuAfrika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-5829847/A-very-British-massacre-David.html

Ok just read up on it too don&#039;t hid behing the article&#039;s premise and the internet to deny such a thing... what next you gonna tell us Hitler never killed the Jews?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-5829847/A-very-British-massacre-David.html" rel="nofollow">http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-5829847/A-very-British-massacre-David.html</a></p>
<p>Ok just read up on it too don&#8217;t hid behing the article&#8217;s premise and the internet to deny such a thing&#8230; what next you gonna tell us Hitler never killed the Jews?</p>
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		<title>By: MuAfrika</title>
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		<dc:creator>MuAfrika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Brett Nortje

I don&#039;t believe that there is a person denying the British Massacre in Kenya.....What the hell
I bet you going to deny the German genocide in Namibia and the death camps too-because the victims were African or because you are ignorant??????

http://blackstarjournal.blogspot.com/2006/10/british-genocide-in-kenya.html

The US commanders in Iraq are not the first to be confronted with the dilemma of whether to face up to a military atrocity, or bury the story along with the bodies. Fifty years ago, when Britain was fighting colonial wars in Malaya, Kenya and Cyprus, concealment was altogether easier. This article tells the story of an atrocity committed by British military forces in colonial Kenya, a tale that has echoes of Al-Haditha. But whereas the perpetrators of the Iraqi massacre are to face trial, the story of the shooting of twenty Kenyan civilians at Chuka in June 1953 has been hidden behind a veil of official secrecy.

Evidence on these events should have been released into the Public Record Office in 1984. The file was withheld by the Ministry of Defence and marked for closure until 2038. Requests under the Freedom of Information Act secured its release in January 2006, and we can now reconstruct the disturbing story of the Chuka massacre. But not everything on this file has been revealed: and that raises tough questions about the culpability of the British Army in colonial war crimes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Brett Nortje</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that there is a person denying the British Massacre in Kenya&#8230;..What the hell<br />
I bet you going to deny the German genocide in Namibia and the death camps too-because the victims were African or because you are ignorant??????</p>
<p><a href="http://blackstarjournal.blogspot.com/2006/10/british-genocide-in-kenya.html" rel="nofollow">http://blackstarjournal.blogspot.com/2006/10/british-genocide-in-kenya.html</a></p>
<p>The US commanders in Iraq are not the first to be confronted with the dilemma of whether to face up to a military atrocity, or bury the story along with the bodies. Fifty years ago, when Britain was fighting colonial wars in Malaya, Kenya and Cyprus, concealment was altogether easier. This article tells the story of an atrocity committed by British military forces in colonial Kenya, a tale that has echoes of Al-Haditha. But whereas the perpetrators of the Iraqi massacre are to face trial, the story of the shooting of twenty Kenyan civilians at Chuka in June 1953 has been hidden behind a veil of official secrecy.</p>
<p>Evidence on these events should have been released into the Public Record Office in 1984. The file was withheld by the Ministry of Defence and marked for closure until 2038. Requests under the Freedom of Information Act secured its release in January 2006, and we can now reconstruct the disturbing story of the Chuka massacre. But not everything on this file has been revealed: and that raises tough questions about the culpability of the British Army in colonial war crimes&#8230;</p>
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