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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2010/07/28/please-choose-heading/comment-page-1/#comment-136255</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In today&#039;s online edition of the Mail and Guardian we read that nurses in Durban ignored the Labour Court order that they should go back to work. The ANC is slowly and surely reaping the whirlwind that it has sown and that is so clearly expressed by the ANCYL. Thankfully Madiba is so well isolated from all of this by his minders that he can spend his last days in blissful ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In today&#8217;s online edition of the Mail and Guardian we read that nurses in Durban ignored the Labour Court order that they should go back to work. The ANC is slowly and surely reaping the whirlwind that it has sown and that is so clearly expressed by the ANCYL. Thankfully Madiba is so well isolated from all of this by his minders that he can spend his last days in blissful ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: MLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish your words got to 30mn South Africans, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish your words got to 30mn South Africans, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: noel</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2010/07/28/please-choose-heading/comment-page-1/#comment-132695</link>
		<dc:creator>noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great article, Traps. What&#039;s even more sad is that the mother organisation has not said a word condemning its youth wing about disregarding court judgements. We are clearly heading for anarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article, Traps. What&#8217;s even more sad is that the mother organisation has not said a word condemning its youth wing about disregarding court judgements. We are clearly heading for anarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2010/07/28/please-choose-heading/comment-page-1/#comment-132686</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not so much the behavious of the youth league and their disregard for democracy and rule of law, but the total absence of discipine or even criticism of their behavious by their masters, the ANC itself.
Troubling.................Worrying...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not so much the behavious of the youth league and their disregard for democracy and rule of law, but the total absence of discipine or even criticism of their behavious by their masters, the ANC itself.<br />
Troubling&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Worrying&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2010/07/28/please-choose-heading/comment-page-1/#comment-132684</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely Dahe Harris and the rest of his mates will soon write in blaming apartheid judges and the DA for this (and everything else)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely Dahe Harris and the rest of his mates will soon write in blaming apartheid judges and the DA for this (and everything else)?</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Curling-Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry Curling-Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the fundamental nature of governance itself that bureaucrats get to do what is illegal for everyone else.

The notion that ‘no one is above the law’ is true only in a symbolic sense, since incumbents assume the power to legitimize their actions via control over the legislature and improper influence over the judiciary, and in violation of the constitution, which is regularly and conveniently ‘interpreted’ 

This behavior is not restricted to SA or the ANC, the U.S. Federal Government probably being the current worst constitutional violator.

The Youth League members are merely acting in anticipation of what will soon be for them quite legitimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the fundamental nature of governance itself that bureaucrats get to do what is illegal for everyone else.</p>
<p>The notion that ‘no one is above the law’ is true only in a symbolic sense, since incumbents assume the power to legitimize their actions via control over the legislature and improper influence over the judiciary, and in violation of the constitution, which is regularly and conveniently ‘interpreted’ </p>
<p>This behavior is not restricted to SA or the ANC, the U.S. Federal Government probably being the current worst constitutional violator.</p>
<p>The Youth League members are merely acting in anticipation of what will soon be for them quite legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: tottie</title>
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		<dc:creator>tottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article brings out more contradictions in this matter. But it falls short of tracking the ANCYL&#039;s attitude towards justice to the ascendance of Jacob Zuma to the thrown himslef, including statements made by senior ANC political members like &quot;political solutions&quot; and judges being &quot;counter-revolutionaries&quot; 

We said it then that this creates a dangerous precedence that erodes any remaining part of our democracy. 

At a regional level it is observable in the defiance of the ICC judgement by the African ruling parties&#039; representatives. 

Despite the fact that all their &quot;political&quot; parties represent less than a fraction of the African population, they have the arrogance of sublimating the interests of the rest of the world citizens, including the majority in their countries.

Youth does raise issues of concern about their lives everywhere, even violently, but no one ever allows their interest to dominate political space of a country&#039;s life. The reasons are obvious. 

Political expedience has allowed this to obtain in this country, to a point where established principles and institutions that humanity puts in place as a safeguard against political abuse, are in danger.

We live in fear, because the young and uninitiated rules the land. Their voice has been proven to carry the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article brings out more contradictions in this matter. But it falls short of tracking the ANCYL&#8217;s attitude towards justice to the ascendance of Jacob Zuma to the thrown himslef, including statements made by senior ANC political members like &#8220;political solutions&#8221; and judges being &#8220;counter-revolutionaries&#8221; </p>
<p>We said it then that this creates a dangerous precedence that erodes any remaining part of our democracy. </p>
<p>At a regional level it is observable in the defiance of the ICC judgement by the African ruling parties&#8217; representatives. </p>
<p>Despite the fact that all their &#8220;political&#8221; parties represent less than a fraction of the African population, they have the arrogance of sublimating the interests of the rest of the world citizens, including the majority in their countries.</p>
<p>Youth does raise issues of concern about their lives everywhere, even violently, but no one ever allows their interest to dominate political space of a country&#8217;s life. The reasons are obvious. </p>
<p>Political expedience has allowed this to obtain in this country, to a point where established principles and institutions that humanity puts in place as a safeguard against political abuse, are in danger.</p>
<p>We live in fear, because the young and uninitiated rules the land. Their voice has been proven to carry the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac Maweni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac Maweni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The young lions might as well feel justified to ignore the courts and their judgements since their parents, the ANC, do the same when it suits them. Remember the ANC utterances everytime a judgement goes against one of them, judges are given unsavoury labels. Indlela ibuzwa kwabaphambili. The ANC has not and is not setting a good example for their youth league and they should blame no one for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The young lions might as well feel justified to ignore the courts and their judgements since their parents, the ANC, do the same when it suits them. Remember the ANC utterances everytime a judgement goes against one of them, judges are given unsavoury labels. Indlela ibuzwa kwabaphambili. The ANC has not and is not setting a good example for their youth league and they should blame no one for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Joffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Joffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANCYL above the law? What is the question mark for? As we all know the ANC is above the law so why not it&#039;s &#039;children&#039;? We have a one party &#039;democracy&#039; in South Africa and the only time the ANC and the ANCYL uses &#039;democracy&#039; is when it asks for votes on polling day, or in the particular case of the ANCYL they eject those who would like to use their democratic right to vote against the Dictator that runs the ANCYL at the time, so they do not even get the opportunity to use their democratic right to vote. Stalin once said, &quot;In a democracy, it does not matter who you vote for, all that matters is who counts the votes&quot;. The ANCYL know this so they eject those who would vote against them even before the votes take place. Note Zimbabwe, Sudan and others in the failed states of Africa. &quot;Might is Right&quot; in all of them and voters mean nothing as the wrong people control the ballots. African democracy is defined as &quot;One Man, One Vote, Once&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANCYL above the law? What is the question mark for? As we all know the ANC is above the law so why not it&#8217;s &#8216;children&#8217;? We have a one party &#8216;democracy&#8217; in South Africa and the only time the ANC and the ANCYL uses &#8216;democracy&#8217; is when it asks for votes on polling day, or in the particular case of the ANCYL they eject those who would like to use their democratic right to vote against the Dictator that runs the ANCYL at the time, so they do not even get the opportunity to use their democratic right to vote. Stalin once said, &#8220;In a democracy, it does not matter who you vote for, all that matters is who counts the votes&#8221;. The ANCYL know this so they eject those who would vote against them even before the votes take place. Note Zimbabwe, Sudan and others in the failed states of Africa. &#8220;Might is Right&#8221; in all of them and voters mean nothing as the wrong people control the ballots. African democracy is defined as &#8220;One Man, One Vote, Once&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: sad</title>
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		<dc:creator>sad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s a case of do as you are told, not do as we do. The ANC after Madiba is the worst thing to happen to RSA in the history of our democracy. Corruption and crime is their only example to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s a case of do as you are told, not do as we do. The ANC after Madiba is the worst thing to happen to RSA in the history of our democracy. Corruption and crime is their only example to us.</p>
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