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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/12/11/mantashe-for-president/comment-page-1/#comment-105261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...people who happen to have access to internet by virtue of apartheid makes you popular by virtue of the digital divide...&quot;
If Madoda had internet in 1992/93 or whether he got it last week, it obviously wasn&#039;t a matter of apartheid denying it to anyone.
Furthermore, how many individuals had internet in 1992? You talk of progressive companies having it. Since when are employees allowed free access to the internet at work? Both you and Madoda should have been working not trawling the net for ephemera.
OK, so you got it at home for your kids, and they are &quot;successful&quot;, whatever &quot;success&quot; means to you or them. I know many black children who have grown up to be successful in their own right who definitely had  no access to internet. It may be a very useful tool for a student or learner, but one needs a lot more than facts to be educated.
Incidentally, I&#039;m 64 next month. Perhaps my memory is going, but I know where Madoda was coming from with his remark about apartheid denying certain people access to the internet. Don&#039;t be so damned pedantic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;people who happen to have access to internet by virtue of apartheid makes you popular by virtue of the digital divide&#8230;&#8221;<br />
If Madoda had internet in 1992/93 or whether he got it last week, it obviously wasn&#8217;t a matter of apartheid denying it to anyone.<br />
Furthermore, how many individuals had internet in 1992? You talk of progressive companies having it. Since when are employees allowed free access to the internet at work? Both you and Madoda should have been working not trawling the net for ephemera.<br />
OK, so you got it at home for your kids, and they are &#8220;successful&#8221;, whatever &#8220;success&#8221; means to you or them. I know many black children who have grown up to be successful in their own right who definitely had  no access to internet. It may be a very useful tool for a student or learner, but one needs a lot more than facts to be educated.<br />
Incidentally, I&#8217;m 64 next month. Perhaps my memory is going, but I know where Madoda was coming from with his remark about apartheid denying certain people access to the internet. Don&#8217;t be so damned pedantic.</p>
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		<title>By: maditsi</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/12/11/mantashe-for-president/comment-page-1/#comment-105185</link>
		<dc:creator>maditsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the time this(usual) drama is over it will be election time and everyone in the alliance will kiss and make up just to make sure the ruling party stays in power. And then more of this to keep the politicians busy while they acquire more wealth for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the time this(usual) drama is over it will be election time and everyone in the alliance will kiss and make up just to make sure the ruling party stays in power. And then more of this to keep the politicians busy while they acquire more wealth for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose Morrow</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/12/11/mantashe-for-president/comment-page-1/#comment-105162</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose Morrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just agree with everything Douglas Mthukwane says - the oldest truth in the world - as you sow you reap - unfortunately the current ANC leadership is going to have to deal with a huge backlash from all sides and the sad thing is that &quot;when the elephants fight it is the grass that suffers&quot;.   May God help us all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just agree with everything Douglas Mthukwane says &#8211; the oldest truth in the world &#8211; as you sow you reap &#8211; unfortunately the current ANC leadership is going to have to deal with a huge backlash from all sides and the sad thing is that &#8220;when the elephants fight it is the grass that suffers&#8221;.   May God help us all!</p>
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		<title>By: Ibomvu</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/12/11/mantashe-for-president/comment-page-1/#comment-105149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ibomvu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After being a small cog in the process of reintroducing some of my exiled countrymen into the mainstream of SA Corporate- and &quot;ex-parastatal&quot; life during the early &#039;90s, I now find myself hearing echos of words spoken by well-meaning returnees, as to how SA Society would be &quot;normalised&quot; to the benefit of the previously opressed. 1 Evening in particular was spent debating the viability of using the SADF as a kind of Civil Defense force, whilst also participating in RDP projects, in order to expedite these. Now it seems that so many of these wide-eyed excitants have been sidelined once by the Propagandists who get very little done other than their face and rethoric in the media just as it was in the days of Verwoerd, Vorster and Botha&#039;s Apartheid. It&#039;s easy to talk big when your bills are paid and you have all the niceties of Western-style Capitalism at your fingertips. All in all there&#039;s a little South African word that seems to sum it all up for me...Eish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After being a small cog in the process of reintroducing some of my exiled countrymen into the mainstream of SA Corporate- and &#8220;ex-parastatal&#8221; life during the early &#8217;90s, I now find myself hearing echos of words spoken by well-meaning returnees, as to how SA Society would be &#8220;normalised&#8221; to the benefit of the previously opressed. 1 Evening in particular was spent debating the viability of using the SADF as a kind of Civil Defense force, whilst also participating in RDP projects, in order to expedite these. Now it seems that so many of these wide-eyed excitants have been sidelined once by the Propagandists who get very little done other than their face and rethoric in the media just as it was in the days of Verwoerd, Vorster and Botha&#8217;s Apartheid. It&#8217;s easy to talk big when your bills are paid and you have all the niceties of Western-style Capitalism at your fingertips. All in all there&#8217;s a little South African word that seems to sum it all up for me&#8230;Eish.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/12/11/mantashe-for-president/comment-page-1/#comment-105148</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traps, how about asking the Tri Alliance to debate the pressing issues; unemployment, Aids, education, crime, health etc etc instead of out booing each other about who is more capitalist than the other.

Brent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traps, how about asking the Tri Alliance to debate the pressing issues; unemployment, Aids, education, crime, health etc etc instead of out booing each other about who is more capitalist than the other.</p>
<p>Brent</p>
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		<title>By: Geejay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite obvious that this debacle can only be sorted when other &quot;Cadres&quot; realise that it is Malema who has the best bling and therefore he should lead the communist party as their current leaders just don&#039;t seem to want to drive the lastest million dollar cars :) I don&#039;t think I have ever seen anything quite as ridiculous and stupid as all these Tripartite idiots with all their gansters trying to lead their &quot;people&quot; into the promised land hahahaha. Monsters ball indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite obvious that this debacle can only be sorted when other &#8220;Cadres&#8221; realise that it is Malema who has the best bling and therefore he should lead the communist party as their current leaders just don&#8217;t seem to want to drive the lastest million dollar cars <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I don&#8217;t think I have ever seen anything quite as ridiculous and stupid as all these Tripartite idiots with all their gansters trying to lead their &#8220;people&#8221; into the promised land hahahaha. Monsters ball indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Siphiwo Siphiwo</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/12/11/mantashe-for-president/comment-page-1/#comment-105082</link>
		<dc:creator>Siphiwo Siphiwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half time score:

Madoda 1

Trapido (and his lackeys) 0</description>
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<p>Madoda 1</p>
<p>Trapido (and his lackeys) 0</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/12/11/mantashe-for-president/comment-page-1/#comment-105077</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ jeff. There was internet in internet prior to 1994. Maybe you were to young to know about it. We got it here in 1992/3. 28 bps was top speed slightly faster than a fax but it was a godsent to those who used it commumnicate by email.

Privilage had nothing to do with it. It was matter of your company using new technology. The fact that Madondo had access meant that he had seen the light far earlier than most. Likely being diligent invested his hard earned money in this new technology. I did and my children leaned facts faster than those at school.  They were able to write compositions way above their peers. Today these are higly sucessful people. My job at the time was low paid but worth the sacrifice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ jeff. There was internet in internet prior to 1994. Maybe you were to young to know about it. We got it here in 1992/3. 28 bps was top speed slightly faster than a fax but it was a godsent to those who used it commumnicate by email.</p>
<p>Privilage had nothing to do with it. It was matter of your company using new technology. The fact that Madondo had access meant that he had seen the light far earlier than most. Likely being diligent invested his hard earned money in this new technology. I did and my children leaned facts faster than those at school.  They were able to write compositions way above their peers. Today these are higly sucessful people. My job at the time was low paid but worth the sacrifice.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Goodfella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Goodfella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tripartite Alliance has become nothing more than a mangy three-headed dog with nothing better to do than for each head to chase the same tail, each getting a chance to bite itself firmly on the butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tripartite Alliance has become nothing more than a mangy three-headed dog with nothing better to do than for each head to chase the same tail, each getting a chance to bite itself firmly on the butt.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead beat politician that cannot coherently string two words together !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead beat politician that cannot coherently string two words together !</p>
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