Comments on: Mbeki not a candidate for genocide charges

By: chris

chris — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:39:20 +0000

I am no fan of the Mbeki eras disgusting approach to such a human issue, but there would be no point in this genocide matter. What would it solve? Nothing. Besides why Mbeki and not Manto? She is the most culpable surely?

Rather as suggested elsewhere above, all the families who lost breadwinners etc should make a joint civil claim agains the government for recompense. It wont bring anyone back, but it may improve their present circumstances. The government failed them in the worst way possible.

By: Candy Rover

Candy Rover — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:12:26 +0000

If anybody are interested in the DVD about the HIV/AIDS issue, mentioned in my post to Rose Morrow, you can send a postal address to candyrover@ymail.com

By: Candy Rover

Candy Rover — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:28:49 +0000

Thank you Lesego. The pharmaceutical companies will have the most te lose if these facts were allowed to circulate the mainstream media and the AIDS specialists will be unemployed, is it not?

By: confused.

confused. — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:40:16 +0000

Mugabe is the best suitable candidate for genocide charges.

By: Lesego

Lesego — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:46:10 +0000

Rose Morrow, don’t you assume an Aids specialist to be someone believing in the existance of Aids? I mean you wouldn’t expect someone who studies UFO to be a UFO denialist. Peter Duesberg,who claims that HIV is harmless and not the cause of AIDS is a professor of molecular and cell biology, best known for identifying and mapping the src gene.

A must read for the ignorant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Duesberg

If you would specialise in the study of Aids and end up denying its existance you are no longer concidered a specialist but a denialist.

By: Candy Rover

Candy Rover — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:08:39 +0000

Hi Rose Morrow,

Thank you for your comments. I personally do not have the credentials that you mentioned that you needed, before you could “interrogate your currently held opinion” as you put it.

However, there are hundreds of well-credentialed scientists that have competently scientifically criticized the HIV/AIDS hypothesis. The last time that I read about the subject, it was said that more than 2300 people, mostly scientists and doctors, including Nobel Laureates in Chemistry and Medicine, have signed a petition of the Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis.

If you are prepared to disclose a postal address, I would very much like to send you a DVD (free of charge off course), in which eminent scientists are being interviewed with regards to the HIV/AIDS issue. After you have had the opportunity to listen to the scientific facts from the scientists themselves, you just might decide it warrants further investigation on your part.

Kind regards

By: Rose Morrow

Rose Morrow — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:13:10 +0000

Add on to previous post “from a reputable, reliable, professionally informed source”… Candy Rover could well be that.

By: David

David — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:10:03 +0000

Suppose contributory manslaughter is the better term here legally and I like the idea of breadwinner compensation where refusal to treat is proven. Just seems fair problem is timing makes it difficult should be launched on behalf of children dependents really. Must be still quite a few of those fairly young enough to be deserving and benefit in some way. Probably best launched against current state too rather than individuals as there is a total spread of compromise in the refusal to treat down to doctors instrucd not to and not supplied with the drugs etc. But crazy ideas need to be dealt with when they impact on peoples lives. What crazy ideas are awaiting SA’s people in the future. Thabo doesn’t have to be made into the Tokoloshe but a judicial commission of inquiry will set the record straight on the realtionship of medical science to society. We could get a lot of direction out of clear reflection. Blame –its very late in the day and the government and we were all responsible for our fellow citizens and fellow humanity. In the French case of the haemophiliacs the responsibility crossed borders and to those hapless victims beyond borders because of negligent plasma processing and exports. I think compensation there was important too. Where real need has arisen as a result of a contributory negligence on the part of bad governance compensation should be granted. Basic delictual law. We vote in bad governance wepay tax. David. think next time.

By: Rose Morrow

Rose Morrow — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:45:19 +0000

Not at all Lesego! This is a genuine inquiry. (I am firmly in the Mbeki camp and secretly it would please me if he were ultimately proved right! but you would know of my stance on Mbeki having read many of the other posts I have submitted on Michael’s blog). Currently I hold an opinion about HIV AIDS that falls in with mainstream scientists but that in no way makes me an expert on the subject. I am not a scientist or HIV AIDS specialist. I base my opinion on what I read – I have not studied HIV AIDS professionally so I cannot speak assertively no proper in depth knowledge. From various publications and interviews I read/hear that HIV leads to AIDS and that ARVs are the way to go. Very occasionally I read or hear something from the opposite camp. I would like to know whether Candy Rover is speaking from a similar perspective – i.e. she reads and gleans what she can – or is she working in the field as an AIDS specialist/scientific researcher. If it is the latter then I need to interrogate my currently held opinion – she seems so completely sure which conveys to me at least that she works in the field. I am always open to interrogation of and adjustment to my opinion on this topic provided the shift is based on hard and fast scientifically held facts.

By: Lesego

Lesego — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:34:06 +0000

Rose Morrow, shouldn’t you ask each and everyone here who are on both sides of the debate about their expertise and where they come from? You seem to be threatened by the exposure of the Aids fraud with your biased inquisition