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		<title>By: Rose Morrow</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101781</link>
		<author>Rose Morrow</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neuren, I think we should go with "Neuren Neuren" because it has a  "Bafana" ring to it and I think that's good because of 2010 coming up and it shows our loyalty and commitment to South Africa. K?  Jokes aside, I am a passionate South African and want to see my country rise up and take her rightful place in history.  I am just so frightened by the current leadership - damn shame really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neuren, I think we should go with &#8220;Neuren Neuren&#8221; because it has a  &#8220;Bafana&#8221; ring to it and I think that&#8217;s good because of 2010 coming up and it shows our loyalty and commitment to South Africa. K?  Jokes aside, I am a passionate South African and want to see my country rise up and take her rightful place in history.  I am just so frightened by the current leadership - damn shame really.
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		<title>By: Neuren</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101677</link>
		<author>Neuren</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rose, I think one of the prerequisites would be to select a snappy pseudonym to protect ourselves from ridicule in the real world. I have come up with a few ideas such as, Neuren Neuren, Confused_South_African, or, Facism Now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose, I think one of the prerequisites would be to select a snappy pseudonym to protect ourselves from ridicule in the real world. I have come up with a few ideas such as, Neuren Neuren, Confused_South_African, or, Facism Now!
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		<title>By: Rose Morrow</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101639</link>
		<author>Rose Morrow</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, we have forgotten about Chippy Schaik who is lurking around somewhere waiting for his piece of the pie – or is that the security / justice cluster. Or maybe he will be our new Prime Minister - not being an Mbeki man and all – his appointment to that post won't offend the left.  Then we'll have our very own Three Musketeers. That will be very jolly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, we have forgotten about Chippy Schaik who is lurking around somewhere waiting for his piece of the pie – or is that the security / justice cluster. Or maybe he will be our new Prime Minister - not being an Mbeki man and all – his appointment to that post won&#8217;t offend the left.  Then we&#8217;ll have our very own Three Musketeers. That will be very jolly!
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		<title>By: Rose Morrow</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101622</link>
		<author>Rose Morrow</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101622</guid>
		<description>Hey Neuren - let's do the brown envelope thing - sounds fairly easy and as long as we keep on JZ's good side, no chance of any prosecution or anything. Hell, what could we have to lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Neuren - let&#8217;s do the brown envelope thing - sounds fairly easy and as long as we keep on JZ&#8217;s good side, no chance of any prosecution or anything. Hell, what could we have to lose?
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		<title>By: MLH</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101619</link>
		<author>MLH</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siphiwo Siphiwo: Ah! But it is the ANC who has shut down the BRT in Jhb for lack of planning...why are you in such a foul mood? Did they miss your stop today?
Now, if Shaik gets to head some part of the security cluster and they can find just one more vacant space, the Shaik's can all shake on it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siphiwo Siphiwo: Ah! But it is the ANC who has shut down the BRT in Jhb for lack of planning&#8230;why are you in such a foul mood? Did they miss your stop today?<br />
Now, if Shaik gets to head some part of the security cluster and they can find just one more vacant space, the Shaik&#8217;s can all shake on it
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		<title>By: Alan in Botswana</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101609</link>
		<author>Alan in Botswana</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that Shabir is tightening the screws on JZ?  Schabir knows a lot about the arms deal, almost as much as JZ and maybe he isn't very happy at being deprived of his cut. I imagine he wants the money more than the pardon, but judicial appearances dictate that he take the pardon first.
Pardon????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that Shabir is tightening the screws on JZ?  Schabir knows a lot about the arms deal, almost as much as JZ and maybe he isn&#8217;t very happy at being deprived of his cut. I imagine he wants the money more than the pardon, but judicial appearances dictate that he take the pardon first.<br />
Pardon????
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		<title>By: George Nowak</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101595</link>
		<author>George Nowak</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siphiwe^2, We have to forgive you your utterances every day because we sympathise with your poor education, with your ignorance and even the odd prejudice. We choose not to forgive those in the highest office becasue they are our paid representatives and take an oath of office. It's when they abuse our highest office for personal agendas, jobs for pals, undermining the judiciary then we have an issue worth opposing and commenting on. Government is less tolerant of us not paying taxes, traffic fines etc., although these are lesser crimes. 
As for the DA on the BRT, a stupid error - not a crime! As for the ID etc, they are not in power and have not taken an oath of office. They are sworn in MP's but what does that mean to any ANC sworn-in MP? Not much at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siphiwe^2, We have to forgive you your utterances every day because we sympathise with your poor education, with your ignorance and even the odd prejudice. We choose not to forgive those in the highest office becasue they are our paid representatives and take an oath of office. It&#8217;s when they abuse our highest office for personal agendas, jobs for pals, undermining the judiciary then we have an issue worth opposing and commenting on. Government is less tolerant of us not paying taxes, traffic fines etc., although these are lesser crimes.<br />
As for the DA on the BRT, a stupid error - not a crime! As for the ID etc, they are not in power and have not taken an oath of office. They are sworn in MP&#8217;s but what does that mean to any ANC sworn-in MP? Not much at all.
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		<title>By: Neuren</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101593</link>
		<author>Neuren</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Traps, I wish that we would use your advise just for one week. 

Maybe a rally should be organized at the Union Buildings with protesters carrying banners requesting pardons when the issue comes to a head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Traps, I wish that we would use your advise just for one week. </p>
<p>Maybe a rally should be organized at the Union Buildings with protesters carrying banners requesting pardons when the issue comes to a head.
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		<title>By: Neuren</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101592</link>
		<author>Neuren</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rose, i.r.o. our dear friend SS, did you read the article on the brown envelope journalism. I believe that there is a case here of - Bloggers for hire. Great work if you can get it. Work from home. Keep your own hours. Quasi logic an absolute must. 

I wonder how fat the envelope is, and who pays for it, Chancellor House or Mr Tax Payer, oh silly me, they are one and the same thing when it comes to ANC Pty((very)Ltd).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rose, i.r.o. our dear friend SS, did you read the article on the brown envelope journalism. I believe that there is a case here of - Bloggers for hire. Great work if you can get it. Work from home. Keep your own hours. Quasi logic an absolute must. </p>
<p>I wonder how fat the envelope is, and who pays for it, Chancellor House or Mr Tax Payer, oh silly me, they are one and the same thing when it comes to ANC Pty((very)Ltd).
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		<title>By: Peter Joffe</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2009/11/15/pardon-perfect-response-to-zuma-affording-shaik-one/#comment-101590</link>
		<author>Peter Joffe</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traps, from a legal point of view, If Zuma pardons Sheik does that mean that all records of what happend are legally destroyed and if fact Zuma will pardon himself too??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traps, from a legal point of view, If Zuma pardons Sheik does that mean that all records of what happend are legally destroyed and if fact Zuma will pardon himself too??
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