As far as I am concerned the ANC should pay.

They have us all by the balls it would appear, the rotten inner circle, and we have no recourse. Mpshameful, corrupt, indefensible. It’s Chris Nicholson round 2, but without the supreme court to slap them about for it!

Can I say fuck here? I want to say that at the end of every sentence today. Fuck.

I’ve said elsewhere here, that if JZ was a victim of a conspiracy let it be outed & let those responsible answer-with the proviso, the conspiracy be investigated, tested & validated. I’ve also said, Lindiwe Sisulu et al do the ANC a disservice by dragging it into this. If Mondli’s editorial team are on the money, JZ might have been hoodwinked into a ‘deal’ that replaced the charges hanging over his head with a conspiracy cloud, maybe more dangerous. At a party level, giving birth to another ‘disgruntled other’ intent on shifting the centre of gravity. At a state level, this bunch has set the ANC on a collision course with the judiciary & the security agencies, brilliant!

Unbelievable…

But why avoid the obvious. If they have been handed evidence of police involvement in conspiracy, maybe involving Selebi, maybe many more people as well – who will investigate it?

Which is why we had the Scorpions!

I have just listened to the news and am appalled to hear the ANC saying the taxpayer must foot all Zuma’s bills and blaming the NPA for wasting taxpayers’ money.

That is NOT the law. We were told in the beginning that Zuma would pay the costs if he lost. He lost ALL the appeals – which means he must pay both sides costs for all of those cases. And if he can’t pay, the ANC can use some of China’s donations to their coffers to pay for him.

I have heard Pierre De Vos and other experts advising on the rights of a private prosecution of Zuma. One said that possibly any taxpayer could show an interest in bringing a case.

Well as far as I see it, the case for Zuma and not taxpayers having to pay the costs of his appeals, is even more straightforward.

Please advise.

1. The permission of the parties being recorded requirement is only valid if this is in reference to a deployed device-even then only one of the parties need be ‘told’…

2. Interception MUST AT ALL TIMES be preceded by authority from a judge. Only in the case of emergencies can this provision be circumvented-although there’s a requirement to retrospectively seek permission, NO LATER THAN 48 hrs after the recording. Any form of interception of SAn citizens that falls outside this ambit is ILLEGAL!

This said, i dont want to speculate about said tapes and content, i’m in no position to do so.

I do want to deal with the conspiracy issue and the emerging narrative that there’s no need to prove it because the nature of conspiracies is that they cant be proven etc, etc. I think its absolutely crucial its proven, the bonafides of the judiciary and our security sector hinges on this. What most dont realise is that it creates a precedent in both party and state l’ship transitions. Politics by nature is dirty business, add to this broth, conspiracy politics with gravitas to overturn legal judgements without being tested and you’re well within coup d’état territory. Its Newton’s 3rd law of motion…

I dont know about “DA supporters” but the tapes worry me. I want to know

1. Dis a judge give an order for the bugging?

2. Was the judge Hlophe?

Never mind the “large portion of SA population” wondering if Zuma is indeed corrupt or not,i’ve long been having a question mark over Zuma after what came out at Shaik’s trial.Whenever i see him on TV or Newspapers,i always ask myself if he did take bribes,if he did advanced Shaik’s businesses,if his beautiful thatched house in poverty-stricken Nkandla was indeed paid by Thint or Vivian Reddy,if his children were schooled by shaik or dad himself…all this questions wont go away until a Judge(Court or Commission of enquiry makes final pronouncement on charges put him.I wonder if i’ll end up with a migrain.lol

Mwenebobo

Time ran out long ago for our so-called independant organs of state when the mighty ANC deployed what is laughingly known as disciplined-brave-loyal-dedicated-cadres of the movement to head those organs instead of neutral non-politically affiliated people.Look at the consequences now.Sad

Please keep us posted about Bakili Muluzi’s shenanigans that i find hilarious.Whilst he was president,he sign(on behalf of malawi)African Union’s declaration/resolution of two-term presidency and now that he’s in trouble he turns around and want it declared unconstitututional