Comments on: Civil war? Call out the army? Pass the spliff http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Oldfox http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36643 Oldfox Sun, 25 May 2008 18:35:16 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36643 SEPTAGENARIAN The Boer rifles were the Mauser model 94 & model 95, deadly at long ranges. The Zulu seer is Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa http://credomutwa.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credo_Mutwa SEPTAGENARIAN

The Boer rifles were the Mauser model 94 & model 95, deadly at long ranges.

The Zulu seer is Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa
http://credomutwa.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credo_Mutwa

]]> By: Chantal http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36462 Chantal Sat, 24 May 2008 08:23:42 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36462 Up to now I did not have a name to call Them.I called them "they" or whatever... I came accross a word this morning that jumped into my mind and it just stood there in all its clarity. The Word is HYENAS. This name is the one I am going to call Them when I will be telling about Them. In French, a hyena is called a "hyene", a word very closed phonetically to the word "haine" which means "hate". The Hyenas are not stopping, too stupid to see that the world spit on them. And the World hangs its head in shame...What have we done? we have liberated hyenas... Up to now I did not have a name to call Them.I called them “they” or whatever…
I came accross a word this morning that jumped into my mind and it just stood there in all its clarity.
The Word is HYENAS. This name is the one I am going to call Them when I will be telling about Them.
In French, a hyena is called a “hyene”, a word very closed phonetically to the word “haine” which means “hate”.
The Hyenas are not stopping, too stupid to see that the world spit on them.
And the World hangs its head in shame…What have we done? we have liberated hyenas…

]]> By: Lyndall Beddy http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36333 Lyndall Beddy Fri, 23 May 2008 14:53:34 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36333 Mandla Traps has every right to support the ANC. I have every right not to. It is called democracy. I have every right to ask him "why" He has every right to ask me "why" It is called debate Can you grasp either concept - or do you believe in hero worship and blind loyalty? Mandla

Traps has every right to support the ANC.
I have every right not to.

It is called democracy.

I have every right to ask him “why”
He has every right to ask me “why”

It is called debate

Can you grasp either concept – or do you believe in hero worship and blind loyalty?

]]> By: Chantal http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36320 Chantal Fri, 23 May 2008 14:14:02 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36320 On one picture of the man burning we see the broad SMILE of a cop watching. This is not a picture of the Mail & Guardian as the heads of the people on their photos are cropted. Since the whole world is already OUTRAGED by this barbary, perhaps M&G should not try to protect the monsters or It will be associated with their dids. Now that the involvement of the police into the so-called xenophobia becomes more apparent as days pass, I think it is time the public start to know the truth...as one picture is better than 1000 words. On one picture of the man burning we see the broad SMILE of a cop watching.
This is not a picture of the Mail & Guardian as the heads of the people on their photos are cropted.
Since the whole world is already OUTRAGED by this barbary, perhaps M&G should not try to protect the monsters or It will be associated with their dids.
Now that the involvement of the police into the so-called xenophobia becomes more apparent as days pass, I think it is time the public start to know the truth…as one picture is better than 1000 words.

]]> By: Observer http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36268 Observer Fri, 23 May 2008 12:32:29 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36268 John, It funny how all those who were joining the chorus in condemning Zim election violence suddenly lost their tongues when SA took over ! Its all about forming subcommittes etc etc...And most comments are more concerned about 'EUROPEAN TV's airing the violence, not about protection of human life. Its now 42 dead and probably rising, if the army is overkill, at what headcount should a normal country turn to the army, 100, 250, 1000, 10 000 maybe ? It would be interesting if the targeted were fair skinned, East Europeans for example....would the comments be the same ?? Mind you some genuine locals Vendas are victims too...I thought as much.....this is only the beginning....and judging be the inequality etc issues, those days may well be on their way, except, the migrants will no longer be there to provide a soft target.. John,

It funny how all those who were joining the chorus in condemning Zim election violence suddenly lost their tongues when SA took over ! Its all about forming subcommittes etc etc…And most comments are more concerned about ‘EUROPEAN TV’s airing the violence, not about protection of human life.

Its now 42 dead and probably rising, if the army is overkill, at what headcount should a normal country turn to the army, 100, 250, 1000, 10 000 maybe ? It would be interesting if the targeted were fair skinned, East Europeans for example….would the comments be the same ?? Mind you some genuine locals Vendas are victims too…I thought as much…..this is only the beginning….and judging be the inequality etc issues, those days may well be on their way, except, the migrants will no longer be there to provide a soft target..

]]> By: Anton http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36064 Anton Thu, 22 May 2008 19:52:17 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36064 4 Alan: Quote: Sometimes its easier to see the truth from an outsiders perspective. I heard it said; that when asking how a fish tank looks, don't ask the fish ! Also, sorry about our trade unionism's bad regional effects. It too has resulted in increasing poverty over here, because it really only helps those who already have a job. There are no unions for the jobless because they can't pay union fees. 4 Alan:
Quote:
Sometimes its easier to see the truth from an outsiders perspective.

I heard it said; that when asking how a fish tank looks, don’t ask the fish !

Also, sorry about our trade unionism’s bad regional effects. It too has resulted in increasing poverty over here, because it really only helps those who already have a job. There are no unions for the jobless because they can’t pay union fees.

]]> By: Lyndall Beddy http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36040 Lyndall Beddy Thu, 22 May 2008 17:11:30 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36040 Chantal The organisations doing the most are the Chritian Charity "The Red Cross" and the Muslim Charity "The Gift of the Givers" Also ALL he churches, mosques and synagogues. Chantal

The organisations doing the most are the Chritian Charity “The Red Cross” and the Muslim Charity “The Gift of the Givers”

Also ALL he churches, mosques and synagogues.

]]> By: John http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36028 John Thu, 22 May 2008 15:57:44 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36028 I agree with you that using the army is overkill, and it has already (even as a suggestion) hurt South Africa internationally. You make a number of good points. However, the idea of designated areas, as a number of respondents have said, reeks of past abuses that we would prefer not to revive. Much of the problem is 3,000,000 refugees from our neighbouring country to the north, which, unfortunately we have been at least partly responsible for, due to our president's inaction. That means we do have a responsibility to them. But to put them in designated areas, whatever that means, is pretty much a continuation of that bankrupt policy. Either we continue it and accept the consequences of immigration, legal or not, or we change it. Of course if our economy were strong enough to absorb 3M refugees without conflict, things would be different. Pie in the sky would be nice also. I agree with you that using the army is overkill, and it has already (even as a suggestion) hurt South Africa internationally. You make a number of good points. However, the idea of designated areas, as a number of respondents have said, reeks of past abuses that we would prefer not to revive.

Much of the problem is 3,000,000 refugees from our neighbouring country to the north, which, unfortunately we have been at least partly responsible for, due to our president’s inaction. That means we do have a responsibility to them. But to put them in designated areas, whatever that means, is pretty much a continuation of that bankrupt policy. Either we continue it and accept the consequences of immigration, legal or not, or we change it. Of course if our economy were strong enough to absorb 3M refugees without conflict, things would be different. Pie in the sky would be nice also.

]]> By: Lyndall Beddy http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36027 Lyndall Beddy Thu, 22 May 2008 15:46:16 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36027 Traps Next question: When do you sleep? Another question: Why? My daughter helps run a pub in london. It was full of Chelsea fans last night - and chaos broke loose. Broken furniture - white on white violence, beating up a guy in the parking area. My daughter and her partner climbed in - and threatened to close the pub and turn off the TV. It worked! Are you sure we want the World Cup in 2010? Traps

Next question:
When do you sleep?

Another question:
Why?

My daughter helps run a pub in london. It was full of Chelsea fans last night – and chaos broke loose. Broken furniture – white on white violence, beating up a guy in the parking area. My daughter and her partner climbed in – and threatened to close the pub and turn off the TV. It worked!

Are you sure we want the World Cup in 2010?

]]> By: jose barreira http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/comment-page-2/#comment-36025 jose barreira Thu, 22 May 2008 15:34:22 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/05/20/civil-war-call-out-the-army-pass-the-spliff/#comment-36025 Lyndall, you've been working late... are you in Aussie? Lyndall, you’ve been working late… are you in Aussie?

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