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		<title>By: Cool Down</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/03/24/zimbabwe-a-bonfire-to-mugabes-vanity/comment-page-1/#comment-25888</link>
		<dc:creator>Cool Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyndall Beddy

Did you see Thabo and Bob walking holding hands,
smiling like good brothers in arms?</description>
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<p>Did you see Thabo and Bob walking holding hands,<br />
smiling like good brothers in arms?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/03/24/zimbabwe-a-bonfire-to-mugabes-vanity/comment-page-1/#comment-23944</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traps
Looks like S A is interfering to save their pal. I am getting very angry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traps<br />
Looks like S A is interfering to save their pal. I am getting very angry!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Trapido</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/03/24/zimbabwe-a-bonfire-to-mugabes-vanity/comment-page-1/#comment-23899</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Trapido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reports indicate that Mugabe negotiating handover to opposition (Times of London - headlines) :

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article3658410.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reports indicate that Mugabe negotiating handover to opposition (Times of London &#8211; headlines) :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article3658410.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article3658410.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Child</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/03/24/zimbabwe-a-bonfire-to-mugabes-vanity/comment-page-1/#comment-23795</link>
		<dc:creator>The Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beg to differ with the people that seem to settle with the idea that yet another armed struggle should end the situation in Zimbabwe. I am a Zimbabwean, resident in Zimbabwe all my 22 years of living. I have been to other African countries, and I tell you, war is just what increases such political imbalances in Africa. Have you sensed how the Westerners and most Europeans scorn African nations when they show case especially the civil based struggles on their giant news networks like CNN, BBC &amp; FOX News? I believe that African leaders  and aspirants should focus on not just talking reformation of resuscitation promises or ideals, but let&#039;s see actual mechanisms on how these may be delivered at work first...at least even in their prime stages. Why should we be war dogs when the rest of civilization now calls for descent diplomacy? A civil war is what the war mongering ZANU PF and Mugabe are waiting for...that&#039;s the only language they understand. If Zimbabwe goes to war, the US, UK, South Africa, EU, UN and AU - I will consider them as serious failures and hypocrites of their postulations just like France, the UN and (probably) the EU during the Rwanda genocide of the early 90s. Gosh...it now seems like the whole world is eager to see some form of &quot;Mufecane&quot; (Shaka Zulu type of war) to occur in Zimbabwe then they get their satisfaction! What happened in Kenya is not plausible in the least! As far as such acts are regarded as acceptable (apparently only on African ground), then I do not believe in the UN, AU, EU or any of U!!!! Forgive me, I do not mean to undermine the &quot;fine&quot; world leaders topping these organizations...but all I see is mere hypocrisy! If the US and Europe think they are just observers in this then they probably should reconsider their share of the pie. Look back into history - the curse will follow you, somehow! Tables turn...what goes around shall come around. Their so called sanctions that were supposed to target Mugabe and his Fat Cats have overwhelmingly made a party out of people (especially) youths like me than they did on the culprits! Reconsider that. Probably those sanctions were actually meant to starve us to such a point that we will go back and the bush and start guerrillaring  against Mugabe? Coz he still gets his stretcher Benzies from Europe! Their kids are all over the US and Europe!...

Or maybe I need to be educated a bit more on this before I run my mouth anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ with the people that seem to settle with the idea that yet another armed struggle should end the situation in Zimbabwe. I am a Zimbabwean, resident in Zimbabwe all my 22 years of living. I have been to other African countries, and I tell you, war is just what increases such political imbalances in Africa. Have you sensed how the Westerners and most Europeans scorn African nations when they show case especially the civil based struggles on their giant news networks like CNN, BBC &amp; FOX News? I believe that African leaders  and aspirants should focus on not just talking reformation of resuscitation promises or ideals, but let&#8217;s see actual mechanisms on how these may be delivered at work first&#8230;at least even in their prime stages. Why should we be war dogs when the rest of civilization now calls for descent diplomacy? A civil war is what the war mongering ZANU PF and Mugabe are waiting for&#8230;that&#8217;s the only language they understand. If Zimbabwe goes to war, the US, UK, South Africa, EU, UN and AU &#8211; I will consider them as serious failures and hypocrites of their postulations just like France, the UN and (probably) the EU during the Rwanda genocide of the early 90s. Gosh&#8230;it now seems like the whole world is eager to see some form of &#8220;Mufecane&#8221; (Shaka Zulu type of war) to occur in Zimbabwe then they get their satisfaction! What happened in Kenya is not plausible in the least! As far as such acts are regarded as acceptable (apparently only on African ground), then I do not believe in the UN, AU, EU or any of U!!!! Forgive me, I do not mean to undermine the &#8220;fine&#8221; world leaders topping these organizations&#8230;but all I see is mere hypocrisy! If the US and Europe think they are just observers in this then they probably should reconsider their share of the pie. Look back into history &#8211; the curse will follow you, somehow! Tables turn&#8230;what goes around shall come around. Their so called sanctions that were supposed to target Mugabe and his Fat Cats have overwhelmingly made a party out of people (especially) youths like me than they did on the culprits! Reconsider that. Probably those sanctions were actually meant to starve us to such a point that we will go back and the bush and start guerrillaring  against Mugabe? Coz he still gets his stretcher Benzies from Europe! Their kids are all over the US and Europe!&#8230;</p>
<p>Or maybe I need to be educated a bit more on this before I run my mouth anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Trapido</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Trapido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Zim bloggers are saying :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7322727.stm

If he does steal it my follow up posting is going to singe the hair off people having sunday lunch in Egypt - That&#039;s how cross that would make me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Zim bloggers are saying :</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7322727.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7322727.stm</a></p>
<p>If he does steal it my follow up posting is going to singe the hair off people having sunday lunch in Egypt &#8211; That&#8217;s how cross that would make me!</p>
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		<title>By: RBee</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All dictators and tyrant leaders in Africa are a creation of the west. Think of Mobutu Sese Seko and Idi Amin. Remember that most of these leaders came into during the cold war. Mugabe&#039;s CIO  is modeled along the lines of the CIA of USA. Personally I lay all the blame to the west. They must clean the dirty they have left in Africa. Mugabe&#039;s tyranny is brainchild of these western countries. I think Mbeki as a quite diplomat as he is has got all the answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All dictators and tyrant leaders in Africa are a creation of the west. Think of Mobutu Sese Seko and Idi Amin. Remember that most of these leaders came into during the cold war. Mugabe&#8217;s CIO  is modeled along the lines of the CIA of USA. Personally I lay all the blame to the west. They must clean the dirty they have left in Africa. Mugabe&#8217;s tyranny is brainchild of these western countries. I think Mbeki as a quite diplomat as he is has got all the answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2008/03/24/zimbabwe-a-bonfire-to-mugabes-vanity/comment-page-1/#comment-23621</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johann
Good comment. In fact if the settlers had arrived a decade or so later there would have been NO Shona in Zimbabwe, and NO Mugabe. The Matabele were defeating them and pushing them into Mozambique. The Matabele were Zulus who had been trained in Shaka&#039;s system of warfare. The settlers stopped the tribal war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johann<br />
Good comment. In fact if the settlers had arrived a decade or so later there would have been NO Shona in Zimbabwe, and NO Mugabe. The Matabele were defeating them and pushing them into Mozambique. The Matabele were Zulus who had been trained in Shaka&#8217;s system of warfare. The settlers stopped the tribal war.</p>
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		<title>By: JOHANN BRAUNSTEIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHANN BRAUNSTEIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ W 
Using a personal grudge to destroy a country!!?.
Mugabe cannot be a Great Leader if he himself is being lead by revenge.
Most constitutions are arranged in such a way as to prevent a single person from carrying out their own agenda.
We must remind ourselves that without Rhodesia, Zimbabwe with its&#039; present boundaries could not have exsited and indeed Mugabe himself would not be around. To suggest that this land belongs to black people is both racsist and absurd , every human being is a coloniser, the Matebele only arrived in the area of Zimbabwe sixty years ahead of the British.
The colonisers defined boundary lines and introduced the Rule of Law. In reality this western law is foreign to ZANU culture and as Mugabe wishes to dissassociate himself from the west then Zimbabwe will have to reap the consequences.     
Mugabes&#039; destructive revolutionary policies might  be justified if he was still fighting a bush war. He has abused this political capital (of past injustices) highjacked the liberation ideals and used them for his and his cronies self serving agenda. 
 
Surely having been in power for 28 Years, he has had all the time in the world to bring about peaceful social justice without collapsing the country.He is a very intelligent man and always knew that he could use &quot;land reform&quot; to get political mileage when his popularity started to wane, thats why he didn&#039;t do it when he came to power.Next move- &quot;Nationalise The businesses&quot;, should give him enough political mileage to see him out!?.The country will surely be in ruins tho.  
If only he was able to use his intelligence to build instead of destroy (with his iconic fist), then perhaps his revolution would be justified?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ W<br />
Using a personal grudge to destroy a country!!?.<br />
Mugabe cannot be a Great Leader if he himself is being lead by revenge.<br />
Most constitutions are arranged in such a way as to prevent a single person from carrying out their own agenda.<br />
We must remind ourselves that without Rhodesia, Zimbabwe with its&#8217; present boundaries could not have exsited and indeed Mugabe himself would not be around. To suggest that this land belongs to black people is both racsist and absurd , every human being is a coloniser, the Matebele only arrived in the area of Zimbabwe sixty years ahead of the British.<br />
The colonisers defined boundary lines and introduced the Rule of Law. In reality this western law is foreign to ZANU culture and as Mugabe wishes to dissassociate himself from the west then Zimbabwe will have to reap the consequences.<br />
Mugabes&#8217; destructive revolutionary policies might  be justified if he was still fighting a bush war. He has abused this political capital (of past injustices) highjacked the liberation ideals and used them for his and his cronies self serving agenda. </p>
<p>Surely having been in power for 28 Years, he has had all the time in the world to bring about peaceful social justice without collapsing the country.He is a very intelligent man and always knew that he could use &#8220;land reform&#8221; to get political mileage when his popularity started to wane, thats why he didn&#8217;t do it when he came to power.Next move- &#8220;Nationalise The businesses&#8221;, should give him enough political mileage to see him out!?.The country will surely be in ruins tho.<br />
If only he was able to use his intelligence to build instead of destroy (with his iconic fist), then perhaps his revolution would be justified?</p>
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		<title>By: rj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me first state I am an outsider that&#039;s just interested in the situation.

I agree with some sentiment here that the time for being sorry for the Zimbabweans has past. If they are unable to take down this dictator themselves, they get what they deserve. Screw democracy, just go get a gun and put a bullet between his eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me first state I am an outsider that&#8217;s just interested in the situation.</p>
<p>I agree with some sentiment here that the time for being sorry for the Zimbabweans has past. If they are unable to take down this dictator themselves, they get what they deserve. Screw democracy, just go get a gun and put a bullet between his eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: cool down.</title>
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		<dc:creator>cool down.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont panic people,Bob&#039;s interpretation of success
is as absord as the ANC interpretation as to
what really happened at Cuito.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont panic people,Bob&#8217;s interpretation of success<br />
is as absord as the ANC interpretation as to<br />
what really happened at Cuito.</p>
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