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	<title>Comments on: Halle Berry and the Jewish joke</title>
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		<title>By: krockin</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/10/25/halle-berry-and-the-jewish-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-5210</link>
		<dc:creator>krockin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think anyone likes to be stereotyped.  I think thats why jewish ppl got mad.  Why dont we go to a hillary rally and say some blond jokes to her.  Don&#039;t you think she would be insulted?  Thats how i see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think anyone likes to be stereotyped.  I think thats why jewish ppl got mad.  Why dont we go to a hillary rally and say some blond jokes to her.  Don&#8217;t you think she would be insulted?  Thats how i see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Halle Berry &#187; Halle Berry and the Jewish joke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halle Berry &#187; Halle Berry and the Jewish joke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: traps</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/10/25/halle-berry-and-the-jewish-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-4415</link>
		<dc:creator>traps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Na&#039;eem thank you for your comments.

I believe Mearsheimer and Walt need a seperate post to deal with the issues you&#039;re raising here.

I specifically included grounds in the article so as not to appear vague, I will deal with your questions in a seperate article in the next couple of weeks.

If I don&#039;t send me a reminder. (I will)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Na&#8217;eem thank you for your comments.</p>
<p>I believe Mearsheimer and Walt need a seperate post to deal with the issues you&#8217;re raising here.</p>
<p>I specifically included grounds in the article so as not to appear vague, I will deal with your questions in a seperate article in the next couple of weeks.</p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t send me a reminder. (I will)</p>
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		<title>By: Na'eem Jeenah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Na'eem Jeenah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael. Good one. Question, though. How do you regard the Mearsheimer and Walt paper to be anti-semitic? You say its because &quot;they attribute the efforts of Jews working towards safeguarding Israel as some form of cabal and distinguishable from, say, Italians or Germans doing the same for Italy or Germany&quot;.

I dont get the logic here. If someone in SA, for example, were to write a research paper on how the business lobby, say, is some form of a cabal influencing government, can we justifiably say that theres something wrong with the paper or the authors because they dont focus also on how labour lobbies government also in a form of a cabal? Maybe someone else should write about the Italian or German lobbies (if such exist) in the US and how they operate. Researching only the Israeli lobby does even, necessarily, make the researchers anti-Israeli, let alone anti-Semitic.

You also give as a reason for regarding them as anti-semitic: &quot;The fact that this Israel lobby does not exist in the single format they would have people believe, or work in concert to achieve the egregious goals they attribute to it, makes them anti-Semitic.&quot; How, pray tell? You might accuse them of bad research or arriving at weak conclusions or being bad analysts, if you wish. But.. anti-semitic?? How so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael. Good one. Question, though. How do you regard the Mearsheimer and Walt paper to be anti-semitic? You say its because &#8220;they attribute the efforts of Jews working towards safeguarding Israel as some form of cabal and distinguishable from, say, Italians or Germans doing the same for Italy or Germany&#8221;.</p>
<p>I dont get the logic here. If someone in SA, for example, were to write a research paper on how the business lobby, say, is some form of a cabal influencing government, can we justifiably say that theres something wrong with the paper or the authors because they dont focus also on how labour lobbies government also in a form of a cabal? Maybe someone else should write about the Italian or German lobbies (if such exist) in the US and how they operate. Researching only the Israeli lobby does even, necessarily, make the researchers anti-Israeli, let alone anti-Semitic.</p>
<p>You also give as a reason for regarding them as anti-semitic: &#8220;The fact that this Israel lobby does not exist in the single format they would have people believe, or work in concert to achieve the egregious goals they attribute to it, makes them anti-Semitic.&#8221; How, pray tell? You might accuse them of bad research or arriving at weak conclusions or being bad analysts, if you wish. But.. anti-semitic?? How so?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher-John Bompas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher-John Bompas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happended to Halle Barry is just one of the vicious cycle of media greed. Not only was it offence to the Jewish people but also offence to the thinking man&#039;s intelligence. It really kills my enthuasism as a journalism student. 

Let us not decieve ourselves into thinking that this has much to do with the Jewish people at all. As far as I understand, its driven by celebrity media, which by its very nature is droven by the slightest hint of contraversy (real or imagined).

It speaks &quot;oodles&quot; about the integrity of media around the world, especially in the United States of America. I wish media would actually engage itself meaningful issues as opposed to the kind of cheap and easy stories that simply satisfy the public unquenchable desire for celebrity contraversy. I pity media agencies defeat their own power to change the world, as potential catalysts for change, by simply turning a blind eye to what really matters in society. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happended to Halle Barry is just one of the vicious cycle of media greed. Not only was it offence to the Jewish people but also offence to the thinking man&#8217;s intelligence. It really kills my enthuasism as a journalism student. </p>
<p>Let us not decieve ourselves into thinking that this has much to do with the Jewish people at all. As far as I understand, its driven by celebrity media, which by its very nature is droven by the slightest hint of contraversy (real or imagined).</p>
<p>It speaks &#8220;oodles&#8221; about the integrity of media around the world, especially in the United States of America. I wish media would actually engage itself meaningful issues as opposed to the kind of cheap and easy stories that simply satisfy the public unquenchable desire for celebrity contraversy. I pity media agencies defeat their own power to change the world, as potential catalysts for change, by simply turning a blind eye to what really matters in society. </p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I write an article about Black skin - it&#039;s a racial slur? 

As we say down South, Eish! 

What a stupid storm in a teacup. She didn&#039;t say, &quot;Hey I look some  geeky kike jewellery mongerer&quot;. 

That would have been a slur, insulting, racist, offensive, Anti-Semite. But &quot;Hey I look Jewish?&quot; 

On a hot dy in Durban I look Coloured, but that isn&#039;t implying anything about Coloureds, is it? 

If anything it&#039;s a great place to start a chat about how physical characteristics and racial identity aren&#039;t mutually exclusive, or inclusive for that matter.

But this ridiculous reaction, I don&#039;t know what&#039;s driving this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I write an article about Black skin &#8211; it&#8217;s a racial slur? </p>
<p>As we say down South, Eish! </p>
<p>What a stupid storm in a teacup. She didn&#8217;t say, &#8220;Hey I look some  geeky kike jewellery mongerer&#8221;. </p>
<p>That would have been a slur, insulting, racist, offensive, Anti-Semite. But &#8220;Hey I look Jewish?&#8221; </p>
<p>On a hot dy in Durban I look Coloured, but that isn&#8217;t implying anything about Coloureds, is it? </p>
<p>If anything it&#8217;s a great place to start a chat about how physical characteristics and racial identity aren&#8217;t mutually exclusive, or inclusive for that matter.</p>
<p>But this ridiculous reaction, I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s driving this.</p>
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