Comments on: Mbeki: Constitutional crisis or leadership crisis? http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/09/29/mbeki-constitutional-crisis-or-leadership-crisis/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: etienne http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/09/29/mbeki-constitutional-crisis-or-leadership-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-2539 etienne Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:16:34 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/09/29/mbeki-constitutional-crisis-or-leadership-crisis/#comment-2539 "Idealism is for wimps, as Bush found out when he tried to impose democracy in countries that did not cherish it or desire it. They simply voted in extremism." Mike, clearly your fact-set and contextual assumptions of the real-politik does not line up with your analogies...or, do you REALLY believe that "The Bush II" is/was motivated by idealism ?? (perhaps you need to read The Prince once more) “Idealism is for wimps, as Bush found out when he tried to impose democracy in countries that did not cherish it or desire it. They simply voted in extremism.”

Mike, clearly your fact-set and contextual assumptions of the real-politik does not line up with your analogies…or, do you REALLY believe that “The Bush II” is/was motivated by idealism ??

(perhaps you need to read The Prince once more)

]]> By: Marian http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/09/29/mbeki-constitutional-crisis-or-leadership-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-2475 Marian Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:00:31 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/09/29/mbeki-constitutional-crisis-or-leadership-crisis/#comment-2475 Zuma may not be a tyrant, but the backers who are investing an awful lot of energy and money into showcasing him as SA's next best thing, will want their investment repaid 10-fold in lucrative govt contracts and shelved prosecutions. The ANC is between the dog and fire hydrant with its presidential choices - Zuma's shaky pals or Mbeki who thinks we're all not nearly intellectutal enough to grasp the notion that his pal in uniform has an underworld chief as his mole in the fight against international crime. Zuma may not be a tyrant, but the backers who are investing an awful lot of energy and money into showcasing him as SA’s next best thing, will want their investment repaid 10-fold in lucrative govt contracts and shelved prosecutions. The ANC is between the dog and fire hydrant with its presidential choices – Zuma’s shaky pals or Mbeki who thinks we’re all not nearly intellectutal enough to grasp the notion that his pal in uniform has an underworld chief as his mole in the fight against international crime.

]]> By: Thomas G http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/09/29/mbeki-constitutional-crisis-or-leadership-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-2457 Thomas G Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:29:22 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/traps/2007/09/29/mbeki-constitutional-crisis-or-leadership-crisis/#comment-2457 Ag, come on, Traps man. You are an influential writer and this is just fear-mongering. It is a bit inaccurate to portray Zuma as a tyrant biding his time. Ag, come on, Traps man. You are an influential writer and this is just fear-mongering.

It is a bit inaccurate to portray Zuma as a tyrant biding his time.

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