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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 03:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;were things better under apartheid&quot;

thanks Sipho nice argument. let those that don&#039;t belong here leave SA for its business. history taught us that even our former oppressors opted SA as better place. we know very well that there is nothing that pushes one away except competition. those hypocrites pretend to be caring for SA, no its not true their concerns are informed by interests of wishing to colonize us indirectly  even if they are not with us through seeing they aspirations prevailing. Nelson Mandela our iconic historical hero  once said &quot; never, never,never again shall it be that this beautiful land, shall ever be oppressed by the white minority&quot; this must find expression in the words of many people whenever they think of SA.</description>
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<p>thanks Sipho nice argument. let those that don&#8217;t belong here leave SA for its business. history taught us that even our former oppressors opted SA as better place. we know very well that there is nothing that pushes one away except competition. those hypocrites pretend to be caring for SA, no its not true their concerns are informed by interests of wishing to colonize us indirectly  even if they are not with us through seeing they aspirations prevailing. Nelson Mandela our iconic historical hero  once said &#8221; never, never,never again shall it be that this beautiful land, shall ever be oppressed by the white minority&#8221; this must find expression in the words of many people whenever they think of SA.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/siphohlongwane/2010/05/30/were-things-really-better-under-apartheid/comment-page-2/#comment-126257</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;were things better under apartheid&quot;

This is the topic which has been whispered by so many people next to me, and i have been ignorant of such attempts of undermining the hard work, sacrifice which had been endured by truely freedom fighters. please do not get me wrong here by freedom fighters I mean it, not beneficiaries who claim to be one while they have only had fought some for petty struggles such as being involved in the battling of ousting those that are in power as to get their frinds then they make din.back to the point in honour of our true revolunaries for what they had done they is nothing that can be compared to the apartheid period, to dare do that its a denialism of truth and the progress that we are moking as South africans. there is one thing that I want to beseech memebers of the blog, is not to make reference of the ANC when they want to talk about general mayhem that we are experiencing ,do they want to say 1960 soweto uprising was not a mayhem which resulted to so much lives lost.I dare not refer back as better than today. Egibithe was never bettered than kwa-isirayeli. I only infer with the reality of poor service delivery of which ANC is dealing with. don&#039;t forget that many councillors are unlettered where service delivery mattered most that is why you see this mayhem generally.ousiders must back off.</description>
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<p>This is the topic which has been whispered by so many people next to me, and i have been ignorant of such attempts of undermining the hard work, sacrifice which had been endured by truely freedom fighters. please do not get me wrong here by freedom fighters I mean it, not beneficiaries who claim to be one while they have only had fought some for petty struggles such as being involved in the battling of ousting those that are in power as to get their frinds then they make din.back to the point in honour of our true revolunaries for what they had done they is nothing that can be compared to the apartheid period, to dare do that its a denialism of truth and the progress that we are moking as South africans. there is one thing that I want to beseech memebers of the blog, is not to make reference of the ANC when they want to talk about general mayhem that we are experiencing ,do they want to say 1960 soweto uprising was not a mayhem which resulted to so much lives lost.I dare not refer back as better than today. Egibithe was never bettered than kwa-isirayeli. I only infer with the reality of poor service delivery of which ANC is dealing with. don&#8217;t forget that many councillors are unlettered where service delivery mattered most that is why you see this mayhem generally.ousiders must back off.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like everyone is missing a key point:

The complaint that &#039;apartheid was better&#039; is being voiced, not by the journalist who wrote the story, but by poor shack-dwellers.

Obviously, if you are reading this blog you are part of the comfortable middle class. All of you, who gush over how pleasant your present lifestyles are, have no right to judge the views of those who remain destitute since the fall of Apartheid 20 years ago.

The poor constitute the majority in this country. Who are we to dispute their opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like everyone is missing a key point:</p>
<p>The complaint that &#8216;apartheid was better&#8217; is being voiced, not by the journalist who wrote the story, but by poor shack-dwellers.</p>
<p>Obviously, if you are reading this blog you are part of the comfortable middle class. All of you, who gush over how pleasant your present lifestyles are, have no right to judge the views of those who remain destitute since the fall of Apartheid 20 years ago.</p>
<p>The poor constitute the majority in this country. Who are we to dispute their opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: X Cepting</title>
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		<dc:creator>X Cepting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ash - Please infect those around you with your ideology.  With more South Africans like you, whom I can proudly call &quot;fellow&quot;, we will make progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ash &#8211; Please infect those around you with your ideology.  With more South Africans like you, whom I can proudly call &#8220;fellow&#8221;, we will make progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobus De Wet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobus De Wet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 07:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the double standards rather amusing. During apartheid the ANC hung onto every word any Jorno wrote and encouraged some rather dubious reports on the country at the time. Sanctions was the rage and great to bring the big evil empire down. I watched reguarly in the UK (yes the same &quot;Blood Agents&quot;)use any bit of fabricated journalism they could get their hands on with impunity. Every little incident was run over and over from different angles to create the illusion that it was new and fresh. South Africa was burning. Journalists paid locals to stage events, anti-apartheid groups and the ANC orchistrating behind the scenes like a crazed conductor. Whites on a day out at the shooting range was edited in to show them shooting blacks sleeping in the local parks as they do. Not a word was uttered against this blatant falsehoods. Why then now are the press treated like the enemy, they are doing their jobs, exept this time its for real. They fought for your freedom (The west in general)Never before and never after was the condemnation of a state so publicised and hated by the west, the rallies in support of a free South Africa was unprecidented across the world. What they didnt know at the time was that they fought not for democracy but a takeover of the wealth of this country by a few. So get real and stop being so sensitive about your goverments failing of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the double standards rather amusing. During apartheid the ANC hung onto every word any Jorno wrote and encouraged some rather dubious reports on the country at the time. Sanctions was the rage and great to bring the big evil empire down. I watched reguarly in the UK (yes the same &#8220;Blood Agents&#8221;)use any bit of fabricated journalism they could get their hands on with impunity. Every little incident was run over and over from different angles to create the illusion that it was new and fresh. South Africa was burning. Journalists paid locals to stage events, anti-apartheid groups and the ANC orchistrating behind the scenes like a crazed conductor. Whites on a day out at the shooting range was edited in to show them shooting blacks sleeping in the local parks as they do. Not a word was uttered against this blatant falsehoods. Why then now are the press treated like the enemy, they are doing their jobs, exept this time its for real. They fought for your freedom (The west in general)Never before and never after was the condemnation of a state so publicised and hated by the west, the rallies in support of a free South Africa was unprecidented across the world. What they didnt know at the time was that they fought not for democracy but a takeover of the wealth of this country by a few. So get real and stop being so sensitive about your goverments failing of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: Heritage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heritage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 07:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the pillars of our constitution i.e education, health e.t.c are at a state that no patriotic South african should be proud of, however the argument that these mentioned above were better in the apartheid days is a fallacy, these were good for the few millions that were privilleged by the inhumane laws of those times,  i remenber sadly how there was no clinic in my rural village of Centane prior &#039;94, there was only 1 high school in a 50 km radius and people walked long distaces to get education, the was no magistrates courts in these arears and police stations were virtually non existent. Offcourse you would expect thouse who lived at the lap of luxury at the expense of the majority to cry foul , perhaps what we also should look at is that , even though nepotism and corruption have a direct impact on service delivery, the bulk of services in the apartheid era were for the few millions whose skin was paler than most and resources will suffer if you have to extend that to 48 million people of all skin colours and creeds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the pillars of our constitution i.e education, health e.t.c are at a state that no patriotic South african should be proud of, however the argument that these mentioned above were better in the apartheid days is a fallacy, these were good for the few millions that were privilleged by the inhumane laws of those times,  i remenber sadly how there was no clinic in my rural village of Centane prior &#8217;94, there was only 1 high school in a 50 km radius and people walked long distaces to get education, the was no magistrates courts in these arears and police stations were virtually non existent. Offcourse you would expect thouse who lived at the lap of luxury at the expense of the majority to cry foul , perhaps what we also should look at is that , even though nepotism and corruption have a direct impact on service delivery, the bulk of services in the apartheid era were for the few millions whose skin was paler than most and resources will suffer if you have to extend that to 48 million people of all skin colours and creeds</p>
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		<title>By: Gunslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ash

I am glad things got better for you in South Africa - there was a lot of injustice previously.

But there is no reason to be happy with the current bad service delivery from the ANC government, even if the ANC is the liberation party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ash</p>
<p>I am glad things got better for you in South Africa &#8211; there was a lot of injustice previously.</p>
<p>But there is no reason to be happy with the current bad service delivery from the ANC government, even if the ANC is the liberation party.</p>
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		<title>By: Yum Yum Africa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yum Yum Africa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apartheid could never be better, but it leaves one wondering mostly because African leaders in general tend to forget the people and focus mostly on self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apartheid could never be better, but it leaves one wondering mostly because African leaders in general tend to forget the people and focus mostly on self.</p>
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		<title>By: Siphiwo Siphiwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siphiwo Siphiwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D I T T O</description>
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		<title>By: Sithonga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sithonga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 13:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tragedy was to allow the ANC to measure itself against the Nats (lowest denominator) instead of what could have been achieved given the resources generated,the ideas available available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tragedy was to allow the ANC to measure itself against the Nats (lowest denominator) instead of what could have been achieved given the resources generated,the ideas available available.</p>
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