Comments on: Did Nelson Mandela sell out?

By: Chimusoro

Chimusoro — Wed, 25 May 2011 09:20:32 +0000

..blacks need justice..period.

By: Melusi Kheswa

Melusi Kheswa — Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:18:30 +0000

the limitations of knowlwdge seem to be a problem for many South Africans. Yes change take time for a country that has be abused by foreigners but it should not take too much time when our own people are in power. This shows that the efforts which were put when fighting for freedom were wasted. And yes pointing fingers will be great if it took us somewhere but in doesn’t. We most South Africans are lazy even if freedom came 60 years ago nothing would have changed the level of development and progress of the country. This is because we are good at blaming each other and chasing other Africans who do not have the same opportunity as we do.

By: Lyndall Beddy

Lyndall Beddy — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:52:51 +0000

Karooseun

Most African Governments are controlled by minority elites who got in by indimidation – and stayed in power by vote rigging. Look at Zimbabwe.

By: Karooseun

Karooseun — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:59:18 +0000

The governments of South Africa that began in 1910 were responsible for the situation in todays South Africa,as they were minority undemocratic ones,in which non whites had no say,so having said that,let us forget the evils of those years,and work together to right the wrongs of the past,the only ones that will allow this to be a failure is the present ANC Government who has failed the hopes and aspirations of those of us who would like to see a new South Africa in which every one of all etnic origin,can work together to make South Africa a country that can take its place in the world as a true democracy and not a sham one that there are so many of,who rule under the cover of democracy,but do not practise it

By: Lyndall Beddy

Lyndall Beddy — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:03:27 +0000

Fergie

The Mandela myth is already shot to ribbons.

He needs to redeem himself before he dies or he goes down in history as another Mao or Stalin.

Read “People’s War” by Anthea Jeffrey, and some of my posts on Richmark Sentinel (just click on my red name below).

By: fergie

fergie — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:26:32 +0000

@Lyndall Beddy, how is history going to treat this subject matter with Mandela? This man went to the the bargaining table with a rag tag MK and he was facing a well armed group with nuke weapons, he was able to steal the pot with the losing hand. Most African leaders give the US credit for getting this agreement that change SA history. This is something that many of the people in the ANC will not admit publicly but, when nobody is around they will talk about the role the US played in this agreement. Mandala also got ten billions dollars worth of aid when he assumed office as the first black president. You are right about the Russians didn’t want to be bothered with the ANC because they had problems of their own.

By: Lyndall Beddy

Lyndall Beddy — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:48:00 +0000

MajObe

The whites killed about 2000 blacks in a 40 year war, less than 700 in prison, the rest in riots.

The blacks (mainly the ANC) killed 14,000 – 30,000 other blacks ( mainly their opposition PAC and IFP ) in their people’s war in the townships.

Read “People’s War” by Anthea Jeffery of the South African Institue of race relations.

Less than 300 whites asked for amnesty from the TRC (the majority the security police who are like the KGB and the CIA)

Almost 700 ANC asked for amnesty at the TRC.

By: Maj0be

Maj0be — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:56:54 +0000

Every thing that the previously disadvantaged are fighting for today they have earned and paid in blood and tears… Nelson Mandela and many many more who where involved in the struggle did not do that so that things should remain the same… The truth is we were misled, and it is about time we go back and continue in the struggle for FREEDOM, complete freedom not just ‘political freedom’… I must say if u r not atleast willing to listen or engage in a debate without insulting and rediculing the ‘victim’ ,as u so like to call them, then the ‘new’ revolution won’t won in the negotiating tables but with a barrel of a gun…

When a crime was commited against someone everyone expect the perpetrator atleast acknowledge the crime and be found guilty and punished for the crime… The ‘victim’ is told to talk about it, that talking helps, and is encouraged seek justice… But when a large section of our society was violated, it is told to keep quiet, move on, whats done is done… What a society of HYPOCRITE we are…

By: Lyndall Beddy

Lyndall Beddy — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:35:16 +0000

Sipho

I quote my sources, and I have a degree from UCT in History.

I did not support apartheid and the Nats, any more than I support the ANC and BEE.

The fake history at the moment is faked by the ANC.

Especially dishonest was their pretending not to be communists to get money from the West and support for the Free Mandela campaign; while training in secret in Vietnam and Moscow.

And they are not the ANC, because they are communists and Pan Africanist. The ANC of Dube, Plaatjies and Chief Luthuli was Christian Democrat.

For instance the first thing they wanted was the borders of SA shut so that cheap labour could not come in and compete with SA black labour.

Mandela and Tambo, who were the ANCYL, ignored the elders and took the ANC communist.

The Afrikaner even believed the communists had killed Chief Luthuli to take over the ANC – which is why they isolated Mandela in special protection in prison for the last 10 years(in case he got killed and they got the blame).

By: Tlanch Tau

Tlanch Tau — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:26:02 +0000

Nice article Sipho and thanks for keeping the debate going. To many of our white friends here, they should be glad that we are actually trying to debate these issues and we are not bottling them in, only for them to burst out a couple of years down the line.

Sipho, by now you should learn to avoid this Lyndall Beddy character. He/She comes up with stats without facts and she is always out to discredit anything that the Liberation movements contributed towards our democracy. I told her ages ago when she claimed that Mandela and the ANC were forgotten in the 80′s and it’s the white who turned around and decided to reconcile. Hell I am 28 now and I was very little in the 80′s but I remember all the known Liberation movements in my province and what they stood for and even remember Mandela very well during those times even when he anything refference of him was banned.

@Lyndall Beddy- Please for once come up with solution to problems of SA. Why don’t you for once write a blog that will contribute towards nation building, that’s if off course you are interested in nation building.