Comments on: Time to act against Israel’s apartheid tendencies

By: Panchetta

Panchetta — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:53:09 +0000

@ Gersie Dee
The UN is a club, and like all loose democratic institutions, cliques are formed along class (and other) lines. Resolutions may be made into binding law by respective countries (if they choose), or ignored if it suits them.

As mentioned, third world countries outnumber Western Democracies three to one, and the easiest and smallest Western country to bully and harass happens to be Israel – which is perfectly placed within their midst to show up the deficiencies of non-democratic, value-less and backward regimes of Africa, South America and the Middle East.

By: Chopper4

Chopper4 — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:35:46 +0000

Why is no one worried about how the Turks and Iranians bomb villages for days on end and kill hundreds if not thousands of Kurds? But if Israel kills one person then front page news it will be for the rest of the week?

Why is it that the Palestinians have their own UN refugee commission UNRWA, yet the rest of the world have to use the UNHCR. Why is it that the Palestinians are the beneficiaries of the worlds most aid?

Ask yourselves how much of this world aid comes from their so called Arab/Persian/Turkish “brethren”….if 1% I will eat my hat…Saudi pledged $500 million in 2007 and how much has arrived?

By: Chopper4

Chopper4 — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:51:49 +0000

@ Gersie…UNGA resolutions are non-binding UNSC are binding and therefore law. all those have been kept by Israel at least…where are your cries of Hizbullah rearming itself and setting flottillas ISrael’s way in contravention of UNSC 1701??? You should go read the resolutions of the UNSC against Israel and then say if those are being broken I do not see…the wording of one comes to mind land taken BY war must be returned…nowhere does it say FROM war…in all the wars Israel got land was after it was attacked. 1967 and 1973 were both started by the arabs and they ended up losing the land.

It is so funny how people just forget the real facts like when was the first hospital built in West Bank or Gaza and who built it? When were the first schools built ? When were the first universities built?

How you forget how they( the Palestinians) were oppressed by the Egyptians and Jordanians while those territories were under their control.

What about the expelling of the Jews from Arab countries? They have title deeds for land massing the size of the sinai desert yet no one cares about their situation.

How your facts are misguided to push, and BTW The US was going to vote against Israeli statehood until Edward Jacobson asked him to vote for.

How you forget at anytime Palestine could have declared independence and they would have had all of Jerusalem…yet they never….why????????? AN AGENDA

By: brent

brent — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:47:50 +0000

Michael Liermann, think it is your hair that is ruffled. Panchetta’s statement was made in the contex of other much worse ‘massacres’ that are ignored by “The Left” – thus by logic israel’s is also not a massacre.

Brent

By: brent

brent — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:40:27 +0000

Lesego you are obsessed by colour. In the Middle East mostly your dress identifies you not colour as Arabs/Israeli’s both come in many different hues from black through to white the blackest being the Ethopian Jews.

Brent

By: mallencolly

mallencolly — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:46:37 +0000

@ Mark

Whatever legal terminology you choose to use (I use the common use), the fact that so many people died in the concentration camps through neglect and what seems to be deliberate starvation (not only boers and which was known by the Commons http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts/ssrg/africa/lxxxix.html) as well as things like scorched earth, etc, would today be considered a crime against humanity. You should read those parliamentary debates, very interesting. So wrt your semantic point, Its debatable. I will remind you, though, that the dead would be no less dead, all of them, boer or otherwise.

It is intersting that you make point out where the differences are (nationalism and faith-ism). The similarity between them is loss of lives and close to total economic destruction. Germany can be included under close to total economic destruction, a factor in the rise of the Nazis. We know how that one turned out. It seems to me that, when a nation feels threatened (and surrounded) empathy is the last thing on their mind.

@ John Everyman

Can you point me in the direction of a full list of laws? It would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

By: Jonas Barbarossa

Jonas Barbarossa — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:00:04 +0000

@panchetta
Not entirely true. The Maoris fought the Brits to a truce and forced them to enter into a treaty. This was because the Maori had developed an effective ‘fort’ type defense that was all-but-impenetrable.

By: Eligos

Eligos — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:47:00 +0000

@ Jeremiah Kure on July 21st,
You must be hasbara – you have made reference to a statement that was never made. What Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad actually said was:
“Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
This sentiment is shared by many and refers to the zionists regime – not Israel. And it contains no threat from Iran either.

By: Panchetta

Panchetta — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:19:11 +0000

@ Gersie Dee
The UN is a club, and like all loose democratic institutions, cliques are formed along class (and other) lines. The UN does not make laws, but only pass some resolutions (if not vetoed) which make their way into International Law. These resolutions may be made into binding law by respective countries (if they choose), or ignored if it suits them.

By: Nkateko

Nkateko — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:16:48 +0000

At least the tounges are wagging, in favour of and against, which is the desired effect in a blog.