Comments on: The pitfalls of hero worshipping and exaggerating the importance of others http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MFB http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-51207 MFB Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:40:20 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-51207 Interesting. What's happening here is that various people are saying "Yes, except for my own Lord and Master, who is God Incarnate and whom Sentletse does not worship sufficiently, nor does he renounce the vain and empty works of the Devil.". In other words, they are saying that hero-worshipping and exaggerating the importance of individuals is all that they are capable of; that they are not able to perform political analysis but can only chant "Zuma good, Mbeki bad" or "Mulder good, Mbeki bad" in chorus with their friends. But it is interesting to see Lyndall Beddy speaking out for Oliver Tambo, even if she can't spell his name. She has a point. Maybe she is less dense than she appears. Interesting. What’s happening here is that various people are saying “Yes, except for my own Lord and Master, who is God Incarnate and whom Sentletse does not worship sufficiently, nor does he renounce the vain and empty works of the Devil.”.

In other words, they are saying that hero-worshipping and exaggerating the importance of individuals is all that they are capable of; that they are not able to perform political analysis but can only chant “Zuma good, Mbeki bad” or “Mulder good, Mbeki bad” in chorus with their friends.

But it is interesting to see Lyndall Beddy speaking out for Oliver Tambo, even if she can’t spell his name. She has a point. Maybe she is less dense than she appears.

]]> By: Katse http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-51188 Katse Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:34:58 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-51188 Sentletse,is n't it human nature to uphold the views of those that we deem important high? The unfortunate overexxageration is a phenomenon that is deeply embedded especially within religious denominations, try your route to Moria during easters or let the Pope visit Mzantsi and some stage, you'll realise that Doctrines are here to stay, it's only the relativity that bothers me. Your drift between Science,Politics and Economics is leaving everyone confused. I must say I concur with some of the people here, I also thought you are promoting the Mbekism doctrine until you contradicted yourself on this one. Sentletse,is n’t it human nature to uphold the views of those that we deem important high? The unfortunate overexxageration is a phenomenon that is deeply embedded especially within religious denominations, try your route to Moria during easters or let the Pope visit Mzantsi and some stage, you’ll realise that Doctrines are here to stay, it’s only the relativity that bothers me.

Your drift between Science,Politics and Economics is leaving everyone confused. I must say I concur with some of the people here, I also thought you are promoting the Mbekism doctrine until you contradicted yourself on this one.

]]> By: Sipho http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-51179 Sipho Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:34 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-51179 XNM so you think I heroworship Buthelezi, Corne Mulder,Vavi or Motlanthe or even Gwede?I see nothing wrong with this approach. Do you? I'm not taking anyone's right to heroworship individuals, I'm only challenging you to look at yourself first before you accuse others of heroworshipping.I know my right to heroworship and I choose not to parade it in public. But since I disagree with you on a number of issues you believe I belong to your enemy's camp. Just keep an open mind and you may find people are not as bad as you think. XNM so you think I heroworship Buthelezi, Corne Mulder,Vavi or Motlanthe or even Gwede?I see nothing wrong with this approach. Do you? I’m not taking anyone’s right to heroworship individuals, I’m only challenging you to look at yourself first before you accuse others of heroworshipping.I know my right to heroworship and I choose not to parade it in public. But since I disagree with you on a number of issues you believe I belong to your enemy’s camp. Just keep an open mind and you may find people are not as bad as you think.

]]> By: Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-51069 Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:51:52 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-51069 Sipho "...otherwise you would have found at least one positive thing to quote from them" On this one, I’m 100% behind you. Every so often, I also discover Sentletse’s analysis, comments or inscriptions on issues related to COSATU/SACP/NEW ANC NEC/ZUMA/VAVI/MALEMA/GWEDE/MDC/TSVANGIRAI to be subjective, slanted and rant driven But when he writes about Mad Bob or our Pipe Smoking Internet-based Health Scientist he goes to an extent of quoting the long departed wits. It puzzles me a bit; I earlier thought he was permanently smoking a strong substance but I later discovered that he does that on part-time basis, because sometimes he conveys insightful thoughts. Sipho

“…otherwise you would have found at least one positive thing to quote from them”

On this one, I’m 100% behind you.
Every so often, I also discover Sentletse’s analysis, comments or inscriptions on issues related to COSATU/SACP/NEW ANC NEC/ZUMA/VAVI/MALEMA/GWEDE/MDC/TSVANGIRAI to be subjective, slanted and rant driven But when he writes about Mad Bob or our Pipe Smoking Internet-based Health Scientist he goes to an extent of quoting the long departed wits.

It puzzles me a bit; I earlier thought he was permanently smoking a strong substance but I later discovered that he does that on part-time basis, because sometimes he conveys insightful thoughts.

]]> By: XNM http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-51061 XNM Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:00:41 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-51061 Sipho you are guilty of the same. In your case the ones you hero worship have not proved to be honourable individuals in the way they behave. What they have allowed to be said in their presence and what has come out of their mouths, that is the difference. In my view you have a right to hero worship the ones you look up to and you must give others the right to do the same and express their appreciation of whoever freely. Sipho you are guilty of the same. In your case the ones you hero worship have not proved to be honourable individuals in the way they behave. What they have allowed to be said in their presence and what has come out of their mouths, that is the difference. In my view you have a right to hero worship the ones you look up to and you must give others the right to do the same and express their appreciation of whoever freely.

]]> By: Sipho http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-50957 Sipho Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:40:07 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-50957 Sentletse it's you who smoke stuff before writing. My point is you've quoted Mbeki ad nuseum in most of your postings. All the quotes were to prove how great Mbeki is. If this is not blind support of an individual, I don't know what it is. Do you ever listen to Buthelezi, Corne Mulder, Vavi or Motlanthe or even Gwede with an open mind? I don't think so, otherwise you would have found at least one positive thing to quote from them. I've never said you should join the Morgan and Jacob fan club, all I'm asking from you is to keep an open mind, question your views, engage not evade, be less judgemental. Sentletse it’s you who smoke stuff before writing. My point is you’ve quoted Mbeki ad nuseum in most of your postings. All the quotes were to prove how great Mbeki is. If this is not blind support of an individual, I don’t know what it is. Do you ever listen to Buthelezi, Corne Mulder, Vavi or Motlanthe or even Gwede with an open mind? I don’t think so, otherwise you would have found at least one positive thing to quote from them. I’ve never said you should join the Morgan and Jacob fan club, all I’m asking from you is to keep an open mind, question your views, engage not evade, be less judgemental.

]]> By: Lyndall Beddy http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-50884 Lyndall Beddy Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:22:07 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-50884 Sentletse I do not think Mandela is perfect - he is still a man not a God, but he is light years ahead of your hero, Mbeki! Sentletse

I do not think Mandela is perfect – he is still a man not a God, but he is light years ahead of your hero, Mbeki!

]]> By: Chuma http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-50701 Chuma Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:33:55 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-50701 Josh Wolfe a critic the LCTM (which Stan Oneal had to clean after and ironically in 2007 lose his job in the subprime crisis)has expounded on the concepts of biases particularly availability and authority biases. The problem is some people outlive their peers and like Robert Mugabe give themeselves starring roles in history. Zuma another case of availability bias and authority bias? Josh Wolfe a critic the LCTM (which Stan Oneal had to clean after and ironically in 2007 lose his job in the subprime crisis)has expounded on the concepts of biases particularly availability and authority biases. The problem is some people outlive their peers and like Robert Mugabe give themeselves starring roles in history. Zuma another case of availability bias and authority bias?

]]> By: Sentletse Diakanyo http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-50667 Sentletse Diakanyo Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:14:03 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-50667 MADODA, it is a fact that Mandela is seen as a saint who can do no wrong. Any criticsm levelled at him is met with vicious scorn by his worshippers. That is the most dangerous thing we can ever do. To acknowledge his role in history should not imply blind veneration without subjecting him to public scrutiny like everyone else. MADODA, it is a fact that Mandela is seen as a saint who can do no wrong. Any criticsm levelled at him is met with vicious scorn by his worshippers. That is the most dangerous thing we can ever do. To acknowledge his role in history should not imply blind veneration without subjecting him to public scrutiny like everyone else.

]]> By: Sentletse Diakanyo http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/comment-page-1/#comment-50664 Sentletse Diakanyo Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:07:27 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/21/the-pitfalls-of-hero-worshipping-and-exaggerating-the-importance-of-others/#comment-50664 SIPHO, I'm not sure what you've been smoking. I find it absolutely rubbish this view that if you're critical of someone, automatically you're seen to be in support of the other! The moronic George Bush mantra, "you're either with us or against us" has no place in discourse. SIPHO, I’m not sure what you’ve been smoking. I find it absolutely rubbish this view that if you’re critical of someone, automatically you’re seen to be in support of the other! The moronic George Bush mantra, “you’re either with us or against us” has no place in discourse.

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