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		<title>By: Eagle</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sentletsediakanyo/2008/08/12/decoding-the-revolutionary-rhetoric-of-the-new-anc/comment-page-2/#comment-52321</link>
		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sentletse

Up to your old tricks again, dodging questions. Not surprising given the examples set to you by your leaders.

Answer my questions and I will answer yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sentletse</p>
<p>Up to your old tricks again, dodging questions. Not surprising given the examples set to you by your leaders.</p>
<p>Answer my questions and I will answer yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Sentletse Diakanyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sentletse Diakanyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EAGLE, do you care to elaborate on how Africans were uncivilised</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EAGLE, do you care to elaborate on how Africans were uncivilised</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brain Drain

Is it tribalism or communism? What is the difference between Stalin, Mao, Castro and Mugabe and Gadaffi?

Remember that African independence co-incided with the cold war and both sides supported dictators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brain Drain</p>
<p>Is it tribalism or communism? What is the difference between Stalin, Mao, Castro and Mugabe and Gadaffi?</p>
<p>Remember that African independence co-incided with the cold war and both sides supported dictators.</p>
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		<title>By: Brain Drain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain Drain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eagle: The Afrikaner was in the Free State, Natal and Cape Colony as well as the ZAR - to say they were almost wiped out is a step too far

Also the japs only started dominating global trade in the late 70&#039;s to early 80&#039;s... the first japanese cars were only exported to the States and Europe in the late 70&#039;s... as were the cameras and radios - sure Japan got off their arses and rebuilt their country, but the turnaround did take a few generations. Sadly I doubt ZA will be the shining beacon for Africa that it still has the potential to be, as African Politics have not really gained any sophistication - it merely has western ideals thrust upon, which is then leveraged and abused by those in power to justify or vindicate their actions.

Why can&#039;t we all be honest, and just admit that tribalism ultimately is the only &#039;political&#039; system that exists in Africa? We window dress it with words like election and democracy, but ultimately it is nothing more than a bunch of megalomaniacs and henchmen running the affairs of africa... once in a lifetime one monarch may be fairer than another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eagle: The Afrikaner was in the Free State, Natal and Cape Colony as well as the ZAR &#8211; to say they were almost wiped out is a step too far</p>
<p>Also the japs only started dominating global trade in the late 70&#8242;s to early 80&#8242;s&#8230; the first japanese cars were only exported to the States and Europe in the late 70&#8242;s&#8230; as were the cameras and radios &#8211; sure Japan got off their arses and rebuilt their country, but the turnaround did take a few generations. Sadly I doubt ZA will be the shining beacon for Africa that it still has the potential to be, as African Politics have not really gained any sophistication &#8211; it merely has western ideals thrust upon, which is then leveraged and abused by those in power to justify or vindicate their actions.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we all be honest, and just admit that tribalism ultimately is the only &#8216;political&#8217; system that exists in Africa? We window dress it with words like election and democracy, but ultimately it is nothing more than a bunch of megalomaniacs and henchmen running the affairs of africa&#8230; once in a lifetime one monarch may be fairer than another.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sentletse
As promised, my previous post, and my questions.

@ Sentletse
Please tell me how you feel that blacks were disadvantaged by “Apartheid”. 

And then tell me why the Dutch, when they first landed here in the 1600s, found indigenous people who were completely illiterate and by the terms of the day, uncivilized, from what is presumably, the oldest race on earth? Note that said indigenous people had never seen a white man by that time.

The convenient scapegoat &quot;Apartheid&quot; officially ended 14 years ago, unofficially it ended more than 25 years ago. It took the Japanese 10 years after their almost total economic destruction after the Second World War to start dominating global trade and production worldwide, and they were still under American military rule at the time. 

Similarly it took the white Afrikaner about 14 years after the virtual destruction of his whole race where 28 000 women and children and 7 000 men were murdered during the Anglo-Boer war, to be well on the way to recovery under colonial rule. Comparatively how has your race progressed since “Apartheid”? Or have you gone backwards, and why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sentletse<br />
As promised, my previous post, and my questions.</p>
<p>@ Sentletse<br />
Please tell me how you feel that blacks were disadvantaged by “Apartheid”. </p>
<p>And then tell me why the Dutch, when they first landed here in the 1600s, found indigenous people who were completely illiterate and by the terms of the day, uncivilized, from what is presumably, the oldest race on earth? Note that said indigenous people had never seen a white man by that time.</p>
<p>The convenient scapegoat &#8220;Apartheid&#8221; officially ended 14 years ago, unofficially it ended more than 25 years ago. It took the Japanese 10 years after their almost total economic destruction after the Second World War to start dominating global trade and production worldwide, and they were still under American military rule at the time. </p>
<p>Similarly it took the white Afrikaner about 14 years after the virtual destruction of his whole race where 28 000 women and children and 7 000 men were murdered during the Anglo-Boer war, to be well on the way to recovery under colonial rule. Comparatively how has your race progressed since “Apartheid”? Or have you gone backwards, and why?</p>
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		<title>By: Zakes King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zakes King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a clear disctinction when it comes to leadership difference in the ANC - those who look to the SACP and COSATU to realise their dream of ascending the country&#039;s rule. Was Madiba part of this shameless grouping, and is Zizi part of it? I doubt if Mboweni, Manuels, Mphahlwa are part of this clique...
And then of course, Nzimande cannot be a communist, can he? As for Vavi, leader of the capitalist- enslaved proletariat - is he communist also? VIVA ANC- SACP- COSATU!!! anyone diverting from this ideology must be eliminated, comrades! Now for the 3rd revolution, place your get- rich- quick ducks in a row and ensure they toe the line, otherwise raise Polokwane.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a clear disctinction when it comes to leadership difference in the ANC &#8211; those who look to the SACP and COSATU to realise their dream of ascending the country&#8217;s rule. Was Madiba part of this shameless grouping, and is Zizi part of it? I doubt if Mboweni, Manuels, Mphahlwa are part of this clique&#8230;<br />
And then of course, Nzimande cannot be a communist, can he? As for Vavi, leader of the capitalist- enslaved proletariat &#8211; is he communist also? VIVA ANC- SACP- COSATU!!! anyone diverting from this ideology must be eliminated, comrades! Now for the 3rd revolution, place your get- rich- quick ducks in a row and ensure they toe the line, otherwise raise Polokwane&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sentletse Diakanyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sentletse Diakanyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LEBO, this is basic economics, there may not be direct benefits, but as the wealth of a nation rises, indirect benefits are in abundance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEBO, this is basic economics, there may not be direct benefits, but as the wealth of a nation rises, indirect benefits are in abundance.</p>
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		<title>By: Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siphiwo Qangani with kangaroos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LEBO

&quot;...after Polokwane he has assumed a low profile and you only see him in soccer games. 

At least he has been able to identify something that connects him with the ordinary people of this country&quot;

Hmmm!

Ditto, it makes me think of Saki Macozoma, there&#039;s been some quietness there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEBO</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;after Polokwane he has assumed a low profile and you only see him in soccer games. </p>
<p>At least he has been able to identify something that connects him with the ordinary people of this country&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm!</p>
<p>Ditto, it makes me think of Saki Macozoma, there&#8217;s been some quietness there.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michelle

Lyndall says:
&quot;Deaths by the Nats were about 600 of persons detained&quot;

Deaths due to violent crime alone, since 1994 under the current government, are in the region of 280 000. That is not counting the millions upon millions of rapes, often of babies only a few years old. Is there even a comparison?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michelle</p>
<p>Lyndall says:<br />
&#8220;Deaths by the Nats were about 600 of persons detained&#8221;</p>
<p>Deaths due to violent crime alone, since 1994 under the current government, are in the region of 280 000. That is not counting the millions upon millions of rapes, often of babies only a few years old. Is there even a comparison?</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sentletse

&quot;and what was your question EAGLE?&quot;

If it wasn&#039;t deleted, you would have known, Sentletse.

It will be posted again. Let&#039;s see what happens this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sentletse</p>
<p>&#8220;and what was your question EAGLE?&#8221;</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t deleted, you would have known, Sentletse.</p>
<p>It will be posted again. Let&#8217;s see what happens this time.</p>
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