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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sarahbritten/2009/12/03/blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-104564</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hds   Thank you. Twice over.

@Bob Elder   hds is correct. I was referring to US isolationism pre-WW2. The American withdrawal from the world stage--politically--after WW1 and their flat out refusal to enter WW2 before Pearl Harbour testifies to that.  The huge surge in technological development in the US was at least partly necessitated by both wars but the unprecedented technological development during WW2 was decisive in moving the US to center of the international stage.  For better--in the case of the Marshall Plan--and for worse--in the case of the CIA/Pentagon/Corporate convergence of geo-political/economic power.  And for the very worst in the case of the Reagan-Bush-Twig years of megalomania, election theft, and irrational policies.  That having been said, I&#039;d rather see the US as the dominant economic/political power than, say, China...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hds   Thank you. Twice over.</p>
<p>@Bob Elder   hds is correct. I was referring to US isolationism pre-WW2. The American withdrawal from the world stage&#8211;politically&#8211;after WW1 and their flat out refusal to enter WW2 before Pearl Harbour testifies to that.  The huge surge in technological development in the US was at least partly necessitated by both wars but the unprecedented technological development during WW2 was decisive in moving the US to center of the international stage.  For better&#8211;in the case of the Marshall Plan&#8211;and for worse&#8211;in the case of the CIA/Pentagon/Corporate convergence of geo-political/economic power.  And for the very worst in the case of the Reagan-Bush-Twig years of megalomania, election theft, and irrational policies.  That having been said, I&#8217;d rather see the US as the dominant economic/political power than, say, China&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Walliser</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/sarahbritten/2009/12/03/blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-104273</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Walliser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeepers, if we are judging Canada and Switzerland on TL, can I ask against whom we are judging them exactly? Which nation of charitable, green saints is setting the bar high these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeepers, if we are judging Canada and Switzerland on TL, can I ask against whom we are judging them exactly? Which nation of charitable, green saints is setting the bar high these days?</p>
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		<title>By: hds</title>
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		<dc:creator>hds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read more carefully, Bob.  Rory said the US was largely isolationist until after WW2.  The cases you cite are all post-WW2, when policy changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read more carefully, Bob.  Rory said the US was largely isolationist until after WW2.  The cases you cite are all post-WW2, when policy changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW the conservatives are a minority government so they do not run much and the NDP was able to leverage that to push through longer term unemployment support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW the conservatives are a minority government so they do not run much and the NDP was able to leverage that to push through longer term unemployment support.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ dave harris I hardly think I am &#039;right wing&#039; and I do not support or like the bloody conservatives. I usually vote green based on their policies and oppose Canadian environmental policies and see Canada as a rouge nation in those areas.  I am also opposed to the war in Afghanistan. Your use of the label right wing for me is laughable in light of your xenophobia, uncritical support for the ANC and justification of Stalinist policies. 

Left and right dichotomies are products of a simple mind and a lack of reason or critical thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ dave harris I hardly think I am &#8216;right wing&#8217; and I do not support or like the bloody conservatives. I usually vote green based on their policies and oppose Canadian environmental policies and see Canada as a rouge nation in those areas.  I am also opposed to the war in Afghanistan. Your use of the label right wing for me is laughable in light of your xenophobia, uncritical support for the ANC and justification of Stalinist policies. </p>
<p>Left and right dichotomies are products of a simple mind and a lack of reason or critical thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Elder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Elder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that Sarah Palin is (almost) Canadian. Should we use her as a yardstick?. And Rory, on the USA avoiding foreign entanglements - Cuba?  Vietnam? Chile? Iran? Iraq? Afghanistan? The list is constrained only by the number of nations in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that Sarah Palin is (almost) Canadian. Should we use her as a yardstick?. And Rory, on the USA avoiding foreign entanglements &#8211; Cuba?  Vietnam? Chile? Iran? Iraq? Afghanistan? The list is constrained only by the number of nations in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Llewellyn Kriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Llewellyn Kriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful, Sarah. The toes you stomp on today are connected to the arses you&#039;re gonna have to kiss when the North Sea conveyor belt stops and Canada moves to Texas, Spain and most of Europe, meaning 70% of the world will want to move to Cape Town. The mousse is dead. Long live the moose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful, Sarah. The toes you stomp on today are connected to the arses you&#8217;re gonna have to kiss when the North Sea conveyor belt stops and Canada moves to Texas, Spain and most of Europe, meaning 70% of the world will want to move to Cape Town. The mousse is dead. Long live the moose.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Aus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting for me how South Africans always slag off other countries so easily. Are they trying to say &quot;maybe we suck, but just look at them!&quot;? Guys, it isn&#039;t working!

Having lived in North America for 7 years, most of it in Canada, I can honestly that Canada is not perfect. But it is (almost) as good as it gets, compared to others. Like perfect anything, perfect countries simply don&#039;t exist, it would be very naive to think otherwise. Some are just (much) better than others. And imo, (and in the opinion of many surveying organisations) Canada is one of the best countries on earth.

@ Sarah. The tar sands industry is hardly new. Apart from the pollution  - and landscape scarring - issues, water wastage (for production) is a major issue. Compare the coal industry in Australia. The Americans are mining oil in Alaska, for goodness sake. You drive your car, or buy nicknacks made in China, therefore they exist. $$$. Having been a greenie for 25years, I am not aware of countries with an untainted environmental records.

Harper (the Canadian minority Conservative &quot;leader&quot;) is a soul mate of Australia&#039;s ex-PM John Howard. Like Howard, Harper&#039;s time will come, but the opposition and its leadership are divided and in disarray.

@ Dave Harris. Nazis &amp; Huntley? - BS &amp; Yawn! 
Michael Francis&#039; blogs? Lol!  Can you even find Canada on a map of the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting for me how South Africans always slag off other countries so easily. Are they trying to say &#8220;maybe we suck, but just look at them!&#8221;? Guys, it isn&#8217;t working!</p>
<p>Having lived in North America for 7 years, most of it in Canada, I can honestly that Canada is not perfect. But it is (almost) as good as it gets, compared to others. Like perfect anything, perfect countries simply don&#8217;t exist, it would be very naive to think otherwise. Some are just (much) better than others. And imo, (and in the opinion of many surveying organisations) Canada is one of the best countries on earth.</p>
<p>@ Sarah. The tar sands industry is hardly new. Apart from the pollution  &#8211; and landscape scarring &#8211; issues, water wastage (for production) is a major issue. Compare the coal industry in Australia. The Americans are mining oil in Alaska, for goodness sake. You drive your car, or buy nicknacks made in China, therefore they exist. $$$. Having been a greenie for 25years, I am not aware of countries with an untainted environmental records.</p>
<p>Harper (the Canadian minority Conservative &#8220;leader&#8221;) is a soul mate of Australia&#8217;s ex-PM John Howard. Like Howard, Harper&#8217;s time will come, but the opposition and its leadership are divided and in disarray.</p>
<p>@ Dave Harris. Nazis &amp; Huntley? &#8211; BS &amp; Yawn!<br />
Michael Francis&#8217; blogs? Lol!  Can you even find Canada on a map of the world?</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Janet J  Well said. Incisive comments.

On reflection, I should add to my comment above that during the Trudeau years Canada did accept large numbers of &#039;draft dodgers&#039;, established the public health care system, encouraged immigration of highly skilled people from around the world, became a major participant in international aid and development, accepted large numbers of refugees, and encouraged the &#039;multi-cultural&#039; Canadian ethos--although less successfully with its indigenous peoples.

During the Mulroney Conservative government, however, Canada opened its doors--no questions asked--to Hong Kong &#039;businessmen&#039; who could pay a minimum of $250,000.00 each for acceptance as &#039;landed immigrants&#039;.  Basically, the Conservatives were selling the right to enter Canada.  What they got was Triad and Tong gangsters who set up shop in Vancouver and carried on their &#039;business&#039; --of human trafficking, drug dealing, extortion, and retributive assassination of other Chinese in Canada!

Every country in the world has a sordid side and Canada is no exception. However, its policies have often been more humane, constructive and internationalist than most and there is the potential for &#039;redemption&#039; at the next general election.  Because they eschew controversy, Canadians are slower to change direction but when they have had their fill of Conservative abuses of power and disastrous policies like the tar sands, they&#039;ll be looking for a middle course candidate to lead them into the next decade. For their sake--and for the world&#039;s sake--I hope that is sooner rather later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Janet J  Well said. Incisive comments.</p>
<p>On reflection, I should add to my comment above that during the Trudeau years Canada did accept large numbers of &#8216;draft dodgers&#8217;, established the public health care system, encouraged immigration of highly skilled people from around the world, became a major participant in international aid and development, accepted large numbers of refugees, and encouraged the &#8216;multi-cultural&#8217; Canadian ethos&#8211;although less successfully with its indigenous peoples.</p>
<p>During the Mulroney Conservative government, however, Canada opened its doors&#8211;no questions asked&#8211;to Hong Kong &#8216;businessmen&#8217; who could pay a minimum of $250,000.00 each for acceptance as &#8216;landed immigrants&#8217;.  Basically, the Conservatives were selling the right to enter Canada.  What they got was Triad and Tong gangsters who set up shop in Vancouver and carried on their &#8216;business&#8217; &#8211;of human trafficking, drug dealing, extortion, and retributive assassination of other Chinese in Canada!</p>
<p>Every country in the world has a sordid side and Canada is no exception. However, its policies have often been more humane, constructive and internationalist than most and there is the potential for &#8216;redemption&#8217; at the next general election.  Because they eschew controversy, Canadians are slower to change direction but when they have had their fill of Conservative abuses of power and disastrous policies like the tar sands, they&#8217;ll be looking for a middle course candidate to lead them into the next decade. For their sake&#8211;and for the world&#8217;s sake&#8211;I hope that is sooner rather later.</p>
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		<title>By: Blip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huntley -- another in over a million fine emigrants -- simply did what he had to do. Top man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huntley &#8212; another in over a million fine emigrants &#8212; simply did what he had to do. Top man!</p>
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