Comments on: Mandela: Whites must take up his struggle

By: White Refugee

White Refugee — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:18:15 +0000

Helping the poor to get out of, or avoid remaining in poverty is as simple as stated by Amy Wax, Robert Mundheim Professor of Law at Univ. of Pennsylvania, in her book, Race, Wrongs and Remedies: Group Rights in the 21st Century:

“If you finish high school and keep a job without having children before marriage, you will almost certainly not be poor. Period. I have repeatedly felt the air go out of the room upon putting this to black audiences. No one of any political stripe can deny it. It is human truth on view.”

By: kagablog » Mandela: Whites must take up his struggle by sandile memela

kagablog » Mandela: Whites must take up his struggle by sandile memela — Sun, 30 May 2010 18:43:26 +0000

[...] this article first appeared on thoughtleader.co.za [...]

By: George

George — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:56:16 +0000

and
Sandile Memela – nice essay; Belle – good list

By: George

George — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:48:41 +0000

It was interesting reading, but at least 80% of you should never be strategists. Utter rubbish. There is a nice Afrikaans saying: “riool letterkunde” – the perfect word choice, grammar and sentence construction, but utter nonsense. ONLY ONE PERSON LISTED FACTS AND PLANS. I work for a very large international firm and see this junk in whitepapers all the time. Fancy words for the artificial intelligent – Politics from within any sector, should be read between the lines as with “Dubula ibhunu”

By: KzR

KzR — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:38:52 +0000

Look, people like Julias will be condescending enough to shit in the faces of the poor by claiming they live a life of poverty while they are living it up in Sandton, driving luxury cars and throwing big parties. It would be fair if that was his own hard-earned money, but the shit stinks even more because it is money coming from pockets that don’t have much to begin with. So whether black or white, the heart of man is the same, and if we want to see real change, that’s where it starts: in the heart. It’s when we throw away greed and “crass materialism” (a la Vavi), selfishness and the like, to make a real difference in the land we claim to love so dearly.

Sadly, it’s hard and we seem not to be ready to make that step. So then let’s stop lying to each other and ourselves.

By: Zwivhuya

Zwivhuya — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:32:37 +0000

Truly the issue is not colour of skin. Sadly (contrary to what we have come to accept), even slavery and apartheid was never about skin colour (note that even Britain had peasants who were white). It is ever about the condition of the human’s heart. See, we human beings like status, high positions, money, fame, material things or all sorts. Even those who call themselves socialists and communists, claiming that the wealth of the nation should be equally distributed, also like to ride in BMW’s costing a million bucks and drinking wiskey and going on holidays to Hawaii. So, even if white people were to stop making things about race, or black people for that matter, we go back to square one because at the heart of the problem, we simply are a selfish, greedy species. God help us to change, that’s our only hope really.

By: Owen

Owen — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:17:34 +0000

Sandile, Well I never thought I would say this but I agree with you.

I would like to see a new southern africa (present DRC and everything south thereof recognising ethnic land areas as federal states (no more colonial borders) that lives under a federal system. A country that has an economic policy that has a 10,000 year vision (not next election or share holders meeting). Where people work for the betterment of their neighbours before themselves.

I am a dreamer.

By: tony

tony — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:31:39 +0000

I like the content Sandile, however how does one put it accross to the masses that only vote with their feet and are swayed by a sadwich and a T shirt.

Tony

By: Rory Short

Rory Short — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:10:19 +0000

‘It is time that blacks and whites forge a stronger anti-inequality coalition to breathe new life into the ideal of a non-racial, just and equal society’.

@sandile I could not agree with you more but I would phrase it slightly differently I would say, ‘It is time that citizens formed …..’

By: Silent Majority

Silent Majority — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:32:05 +0000

We live in a representative democracy, right? We voted for our president at the general elections on April 22, 2009, right? The majority of the people in this country voted for Jacob Zuma to lead the country, right? Well no the answer to all of those questions is wrong. Jacob Zuma was elected as President at Polokwane in December 2007. Less than 2% of the countries population decided who would be the next South African President nearly one and a half years before the elections on the 22nd of March 2009.

The 60 odd percent of the population that voted ANC did not vote for Jacob Zuma, They voted for many reasons but a large portion voted for the ANC because.
1. The ANC is the only party that has real credibilty among the poor, I am not going to discuss the reasons for this here.
2. The ANC is the party that liberated us from Apartheid, Once again I am not going to discuss how factual this is.
3. The ANC made promises that were believed.
4. The ANC intimidated those that were not going to vote for them.

Read the rest at http://www.facebook.com/notes/moderates-for-the-anc/fw-you-can-help-change-the-leadership-of-the-ancyl-and-the-anc-brilliant-must-re/363758524445