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		<title>By: James Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking of media, I think it would be great to have a Jani Allan column on Thoughtleader. Afterall, as the star and then leading columnist of The Sunday Times (then Africa&#039;s largest newspaper publication) throughout the 1980s, it would be thought-provoking. Can anyone think of any other big journos that should join the TL ranks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking of media, I think it would be great to have a Jani Allan column on Thoughtleader. Afterall, as the star and then leading columnist of The Sunday Times (then Africa&#8217;s largest newspaper publication) throughout the 1980s, it would be thought-provoking. Can anyone think of any other big journos that should join the TL ranks?</p>
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		<title>By: MidaFo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidaFo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot say I agree with everything in this post by Memela. Style and intention of the author makes judgement a process in this regard.

But I can say with conviction not only that the issue he addresses is vital but also that he does it better than anyone else I have read. The grandly named Fourth Estate has been money&#039;s lackey for centuries.

Which is great because it means Blogging is Best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot say I agree with everything in this post by Memela. Style and intention of the author makes judgement a process in this regard.</p>
<p>But I can say with conviction not only that the issue he addresses is vital but also that he does it better than anyone else I have read. The grandly named Fourth Estate has been money&#8217;s lackey for centuries.</p>
<p>Which is great because it means Blogging is Best!</p>
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		<title>By: Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this was merely the &quot;introductory&quot; piece, God save us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this was merely the &#8220;introductory&#8221; piece, God save us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the comment from M&amp;G online, written by one of the founders of the FBJ, Meshack Mabogoane:  http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__comment_and_analysis&amp;articleid=334242

The most telling paragraph reads as follows:....................&quot; Those who did not get the awards, including the piqued Sandile Memela, then a columnist at City Press, rubbished the awards, the FBJ and me. Subsequently Memela teamed up with the long-lost Khalo to start an organisation that died immediately after birth&quot;. This from the man who defends the resurrection of the FBJ as a convenient career saving vehicle to cannonise and slobber all over his latest best friend and future boss, Jacob Zuma 

So much for Sandile&#039;s  high and mighty repetitive ranting about the uniquely African mindset and Ubuntu . Meshack goes on to assert that the ANC, which pays Sandiles bloated salary and perks, actually has done more to stifle and kill off intellectual and free thought and speech than the dreaded Apartheid Government ever did.

So Sandile, if you must tell a pack of lies on your blog, maybe a bit of humility and apologies are due from you. Maybe you could actaully outline practical examples of unique afrcian thinking - must it be anti-west by definition - then who does it support? If there is any ubuntu in todays discourse within the ANC, I find it hard to detect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the comment from M&amp;G online, written by one of the founders of the FBJ, Meshack Mabogoane:  <a href="http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__comment_and_analysis&#038;articleid=334242" rel="nofollow">http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__comment_and_analysis&#038;articleid=334242</a></p>
<p>The most telling paragraph reads as follows:&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221; Those who did not get the awards, including the piqued Sandile Memela, then a columnist at City Press, rubbished the awards, the FBJ and me. Subsequently Memela teamed up with the long-lost Khalo to start an organisation that died immediately after birth&#8221;. This from the man who defends the resurrection of the FBJ as a convenient career saving vehicle to cannonise and slobber all over his latest best friend and future boss, Jacob Zuma </p>
<p>So much for Sandile&#8217;s  high and mighty repetitive ranting about the uniquely African mindset and Ubuntu . Meshack goes on to assert that the ANC, which pays Sandiles bloated salary and perks, actually has done more to stifle and kill off intellectual and free thought and speech than the dreaded Apartheid Government ever did.</p>
<p>So Sandile, if you must tell a pack of lies on your blog, maybe a bit of humility and apologies are due from you. Maybe you could actaully outline practical examples of unique afrcian thinking &#8211; must it be anti-west by definition &#8211; then who does it support? If there is any ubuntu in todays discourse within the ANC, I find it hard to detect</p>
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		<title>By: Liansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great read Memela. Although i disagree with you on some issues, its just proof of how valuable you are in getting the black mind to develop into a thinking and questioning force of intellectual discourse. I have even begun spreading the word on your blog amongst as many black minds as possible. Ferrial must be kicking herself round about now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read Memela. Although i disagree with you on some issues, its just proof of how valuable you are in getting the black mind to develop into a thinking and questioning force of intellectual discourse. I have even begun spreading the word on your blog amongst as many black minds as possible. Ferrial must be kicking herself round about now.</p>
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		<title>By: Banal Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banal Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandile I could avoid reading your meaningless overlong rants, if I didn&#039;t know that you are Pallo Jordans lap dog and therefore very much at the forefront of the proposed media gagging cabal within ANC leadership (Media Tribunal and all that cr@p) 

I could drive five HoD top of the range SUV&#039;s (of which I&#039;m sure you own at least one) through most of your banality, but then I&#039;d be as boring as you are . So I raise but one or two points :
The one that springs most clearly into focus is the presumably acceptably transformed SABC. News is still controlled by one Snuki Zikilala (PhD Bulgaria) (failed) (sic), who has been criticized by a number of Government commissions of enquiry, for his lack of  impartiality, equity  and fairness eg: John Perlman and the black (non FBJ) de-listing. The SABC news looks more and more like a Rian Kruiwaagen doppelganger from the bad old days of SABC 1/2/3 (white/black/English and coconut multi-national sophisticates). So those, like yourself who live in posh glass houses, in Waterkloof, should hold their tongue before attacking so called coconut journalism.

Except for government controlled media such as in Cuba, Zimbabwe, China and to some degree Russia Confederation, advertising and ABC ratings indicate that fine line between what the public wants and what sells the products that make a profit for non-govenment sponsored media . The ANC government since taking over has made a practice of making personality cults via
expensive  paid government sponsored adds, emblazoned with your pictures and dreary messages from  mayors, municipal managers. MEC&#039;s, Provincial departments, HoD&#039;s, ministers and the likes of yourself (paid government apparatchiks). So the withdrawal of such full page super expensive colour adds from the ST along with thousands of skilled unfilled jobs (lack of applicants, sic?) could be a hefty blow. But I don&#039;t know were you where during apartheid (probably in some comfortable fascist homeland ministerial mansion in Qwa qwa -sic ), but much of the white press - and I name Cape Times, Daily Dispatch, Ront Daily Mail, and Max du Preez fought courageous and dangerous political battles with no offers of cushy jobs of blogging commissars - endlessly writing cr@p on  tax payers time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandile I could avoid reading your meaningless overlong rants, if I didn&#8217;t know that you are Pallo Jordans lap dog and therefore very much at the forefront of the proposed media gagging cabal within ANC leadership (Media Tribunal and all that cr@p) </p>
<p>I could drive five HoD top of the range SUV&#8217;s (of which I&#8217;m sure you own at least one) through most of your banality, but then I&#8217;d be as boring as you are . So I raise but one or two points :<br />
The one that springs most clearly into focus is the presumably acceptably transformed SABC. News is still controlled by one Snuki Zikilala (PhD Bulgaria) (failed) (sic), who has been criticized by a number of Government commissions of enquiry, for his lack of  impartiality, equity  and fairness eg: John Perlman and the black (non FBJ) de-listing. The SABC news looks more and more like a Rian Kruiwaagen doppelganger from the bad old days of SABC 1/2/3 (white/black/English and coconut multi-national sophisticates). So those, like yourself who live in posh glass houses, in Waterkloof, should hold their tongue before attacking so called coconut journalism.</p>
<p>Except for government controlled media such as in Cuba, Zimbabwe, China and to some degree Russia Confederation, advertising and ABC ratings indicate that fine line between what the public wants and what sells the products that make a profit for non-govenment sponsored media . The ANC government since taking over has made a practice of making personality cults via<br />
expensive  paid government sponsored adds, emblazoned with your pictures and dreary messages from  mayors, municipal managers. MEC&#8217;s, Provincial departments, HoD&#8217;s, ministers and the likes of yourself (paid government apparatchiks). So the withdrawal of such full page super expensive colour adds from the ST along with thousands of skilled unfilled jobs (lack of applicants, sic?) could be a hefty blow. But I don&#8217;t know were you where during apartheid (probably in some comfortable fascist homeland ministerial mansion in Qwa qwa -sic ), but much of the white press &#8211; and I name Cape Times, Daily Dispatch, Ront Daily Mail, and Max du Preez fought courageous and dangerous political battles with no offers of cushy jobs of blogging commissars &#8211; endlessly writing cr@p on  tax payers time</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shot, Sandile! I remember the days when comrades of many hues rolled up their sleeves and got on with it. The issue was the dismantlement of racism linked to a class struggle. 

Now we seem to have abandoned class struggle in all but name, and are interested again in the crudest constructs of race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shot, Sandile! I remember the days when comrades of many hues rolled up their sleeves and got on with it. The issue was the dismantlement of racism linked to a class struggle. </p>
<p>Now we seem to have abandoned class struggle in all but name, and are interested again in the crudest constructs of race.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far too much self-pity and finger-pointings of blame. In a newspaper you have to sell to the public or go bankrupt, the public won&#039;t buy any  paper which attacks, ridicules or pooh-pooh the issues which they hold dear. And that paper will go belly-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far too much self-pity and finger-pointings of blame. In a newspaper you have to sell to the public or go bankrupt, the public won&#8217;t buy any  paper which attacks, ridicules or pooh-pooh the issues which they hold dear. And that paper will go belly-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandi as you have pointed out the problem is commercialism.I just wonder even if these Thought Leader that we are so keen to read almost everyday is not only here to sell ads.I think the problem is not about colour but content.The truth is that in the period of the last ten years we have seen degradation in the standard of journalism.

There is simply no attempt by Journalist to tackle head on the problems that affect these country.Its a tradition that will take a long time to break from.What we read in the media especially our newspapers is shamelessly degrading.There is simply no desire to provide content behind what is given.

Our reporting is so poor that its full of hearsays and romaticized stories.It lacks interrogative journalism.I honestly think it has nothing to do with colour but with materialsim which perpetrates commercialism.Lets create an environment where ideas can be freely expressed without self-censoring that is killing our media today.
Lets also agree do disagree on everything.Lastly,it will take centuries to give real power to black journalist.We know for sure that those newsrooms lacks transformation so its not suprising that we see journalistic poverty continuing even today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandi as you have pointed out the problem is commercialism.I just wonder even if these Thought Leader that we are so keen to read almost everyday is not only here to sell ads.I think the problem is not about colour but content.The truth is that in the period of the last ten years we have seen degradation in the standard of journalism.</p>
<p>There is simply no attempt by Journalist to tackle head on the problems that affect these country.Its a tradition that will take a long time to break from.What we read in the media especially our newspapers is shamelessly degrading.There is simply no desire to provide content behind what is given.</p>
<p>Our reporting is so poor that its full of hearsays and romaticized stories.It lacks interrogative journalism.I honestly think it has nothing to do with colour but with materialsim which perpetrates commercialism.Lets create an environment where ideas can be freely expressed without self-censoring that is killing our media today.<br />
Lets also agree do disagree on everything.Lastly,it will take centuries to give real power to black journalist.We know for sure that those newsrooms lacks transformation so its not suprising that we see journalistic poverty continuing even today.</p>
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		<title>By: Afrikaner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afrikaner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;sorry, but dont read or write if you have nothing relevant to say. play time is over&quot;

Well, Sandile, seeing that your writing is infected by tired, outdated, irrelevant cries of &quot;racism&quot;, it is clear that you are still in the playpen throwing your toys. Here&#039;s the bad news: the world doesn&#039;t care. Nobody believes Africans crying like toddlers about racism any longer, 50 years after many African countries have gained &quot;freedom&quot;.

Once again, move on. While you Africans are crying &quot;racism&quot;, a billion Indians and a billion Chinese are working their butts off. India was also a British colony. The Brits also ruled parts of China. The Japanese invaded China. Do you hear the Chinese endlessly crying about other people&#039;s racism? No, they are too busy growing their economy at 12, 10 or 9% (South Africa: 2% this year). 

You are before a clear choice: feel sorry for yourself forever, keep on whingeing about racism / colonialism / apartheid and lose the game, or move on an join the world. Get out of the playpen or forever be seen as a little toddler unable to fend for yourself, Sandile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;sorry, but dont read or write if you have nothing relevant to say. play time is over&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Sandile, seeing that your writing is infected by tired, outdated, irrelevant cries of &#8220;racism&#8221;, it is clear that you are still in the playpen throwing your toys. Here&#8217;s the bad news: the world doesn&#8217;t care. Nobody believes Africans crying like toddlers about racism any longer, 50 years after many African countries have gained &#8220;freedom&#8221;.</p>
<p>Once again, move on. While you Africans are crying &#8220;racism&#8221;, a billion Indians and a billion Chinese are working their butts off. India was also a British colony. The Brits also ruled parts of China. The Japanese invaded China. Do you hear the Chinese endlessly crying about other people&#8217;s racism? No, they are too busy growing their economy at 12, 10 or 9% (South Africa: 2% this year). </p>
<p>You are before a clear choice: feel sorry for yourself forever, keep on whingeing about racism / colonialism / apartheid and lose the game, or move on an join the world. Get out of the playpen or forever be seen as a little toddler unable to fend for yourself, Sandile.</p>
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