Comments on: Understanding Allan Boesak

By: Sympathiser

Sympathiser — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:21:04 +0000

I agree wholeheartedly with Rylan Fisher’s insightful commentary on the life and times of Dr Allan Boesak. I have to say I feel sorry for the man – he is looking for acknowledgement for the role he played during the struggle against apartheid – and he will not stop until he finds it. That is the human condition – we all want to be acknowledged. And we all agree that he should be acknowledged – however he has robbed himself of the kind of acknowledgement he has so doggedly pursued – that of an ambassadorial posting to Geneva. The irony is that he, as a man of the cloth more than anyone should know that before one can be forgiven one needs to acknowledge and confess one’s transgression, ask for forgiveness (from whom ever one has transgressed against) then and only then can one be forgiven – who knows perhaps whether such humility would have given him his beloved ambassadorial posting afterall – but confession is one of the most difficult things to do – remember the TRC. No jail sentence will obviate the need to first confess and then repent. Instead of darting from one launchpad to the next in his quest for acknowledgement (and falling harder and further each time) – perhaps it would be better to just take time out away from the glare and cunning of politics, find his true self and serve God and the community and maybe then, when he least expects it, the acknowledgement will come.

By: Malose Nyatlo

Malose Nyatlo — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:58:27 +0000

The greatest mistake Cope ever made was to publicize Boesak’s membership of the party.
The “little” flaws you Ryland see in him(Boesak) could be blots of bloodstains in the eyes of others.
The trauma that Boesak caused his family by his second adulterous affair(and there could have been many) cannot be interpreted as ‘one of those events’, but a betrayal of society’s cornerstone.
But South Africa has become a leader of the world circus where men and women who get drunk with power and money turn on their own families with unparalleled fury and destroy them.
What kind of spouse divorces after twenty years of marriage? What cracks are there that cannot be overcome with that length of marital experience?
What damage is caused to children when their parents follow temporal desires and divorce?
Should we have such individuals in leadership positions?

By: Selim Y Gool (dr)

Selim Y Gool (dr) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:34:11 +0000

Now check out this important links:

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71619?oid=149514&sn=Detail

It is time for more careful attention in South Africa to the collapse of the ANC’s former support base in Eastern Europe. Time for more sober realism. Paul Trewhela is the author of Inside Quatro: Uncovering The Exile History of the ANC and SWAPO, Jacana Media, 2009.

The East European LEFT and 1989 ….. The Fall of the Wall in Perspective!

Go to: http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=19440

NOW let us have a sober discussion on the East European States, the Cold War, the Future of the Planet after the Fall of the Wall!

Have a further Good Day!

Boesak? Voet**k!

By: Facts....

Facts.... — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:54:13 +0000

“Lafa!Elihle kakhulu!!…”-what are we doing?

What the hell does “kakhulu” mean?What language is that?

By: Percy

Percy — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:12:42 +0000

You have raised a very interesting point, but have not further elaborated on it. I think your questioning of the effectiveness of the military route taken during apartheid is quite critical. A myth exists that MK brought about the demise of apartheid and ‘liberated’ South Africa. By this I am in no way undermining the efforts of the thousands who left their home to join the various military wings of the liberation movement.

By: What are we doing?

What are we doing? — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:41:03 +0000

Cope-ing Busak or no Cope,I was angry with the ANC.I vowed not to vote again as I alternative but the Party that brought us liberation.ANC was arrogant under Mbeki just like of late.People had to be on strike & loose salaries to be heard.Later no one cared.Mbeki will fly overseas when the country was crying for his leadership.I realised that this is not my ANC any more.They built tollgates,made Delmas drink water with faeces etc.Boasak was like me!He acted because leaders do so.But when Cope emedged I saw in them the same people who brought us the calamity.I had to save the ANC after it ‘vomited’.I stayed But of late the arrogance is creeping back again.Machadodorp, Siyabuswa,Pietretief,etc were on flames.It took 3 months to be heard.SABC/Tax?Tollgates?Shoot2kill etc.The previuos arrogant ANC is back.Zuma and Sicelo are examplary leaders of the ANC.Lafa!Elihle kakhulu!! after so much blood &ruined lives!Painful!Zuma please give direction ave to be brutal to be Kind.Boasak must climb back.This is home!He built it.This country s under contruction.Come back and fight for us who have no home and are orphanned!Credibility is a spinned word.Even de Klerk has it with his Apartheid crookes.Zuma and Sicelo! You worked and toiled for this movement.I am still angry too!I get encouraged as you stand up!Save ANC!

By: Donald

Donald — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:51:04 +0000

I remember standing outside the Lenasia Community Hall waiting to listen to Boesak. More than 2000 of us waited for more than three hours and then he arrived to a thunderous applause as the crowd surged towards him.That night he made me reflect on where we were heading as a Nation and I was covinced that whatever we achieve as a Nation we will achieve because he was with us.

Like all humans he has fallen short of the glory of god but so have so many of us.I hope he is back on his “righteous” feet and he has learnt from his errors.

I look forward to him making a contribution to governance in SA and uplifting the masses. May the strength and enthusiasm of the UDF be yours again Dr Boesak.

Forward SA Forward with Boesak.

By: Twannie

Twannie — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:46:16 +0000

@Sibusiso Kumalo
I for one am not into kicking Boesak. He doesn’t matter much and he said a few thinks I liked –but that was just before he joined -and left- COPE)

But it may be that many kick him not for the hell of it, when he’s down -but to KEEP him down!
They may dislike fornicating, lying and stealing politicians already –but when this person is an opportunistic Man of the Cloth too boot –that may be just too rich to swallow.

By: ian shaw

ian shaw — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:19:19 +0000

Appointing Boesak as a leader of COPE was a big mistake. The ANC is known to be full of convicted felons “forgiven ior redeployed” and COPE was ostensibly established to free politics from criminality. However, Boesak, a convicted felon himself, discredited this noble intention and thereby discredited COPE as well.

By: Blip

Blip — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:49:45 +0000

No, Boesak still protests his innocence on the embezzlement of Danchurch Aid funds for the orphans od ZOar to this day. He calls it “struggle accounting”. I call it theft.