Comments on: Memories of apartheid forced removals here in China

By: Rod MacKenzie

Rod MacKenzie — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:39:48 +0000

Peter Win, MJS – I am in agreement with Peter Win’s assessment. I despise discrimination but the Chinese I knew in Joburg seemed perfectly happy and undiscrimated against. Heck, my boss was Chinese (SA born and bred) and had a huge home in Weltevreden Park with a tennis court.I am talking about apartheid days, when De Klerk was president. My Chinese boss drove a BMW and was MD of our company. He disliked his schooling and the apartheid he experienced there, yes, and understandably resented that, but he and his siblings definitely just got on with life.

By: Peter Win

Peter Win — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:37:29 +0000

mjs,
I’m sorry you had that experience (I’m sorry for anyone who experiences discrimination…).

I’m still surprised though. I lived in PE for a number of years over that time period and had chinese friends from there. No white that I am aware of, felt threatened by the “yellow peril”. If anything, my experience was that people admired the work and study ethic of the local chinese…

By: Lyndall Beddy

Lyndall Beddy — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:43:47 +0000

mjs

Just be glad you did not suffer Japanese “apartheid” durng their occupation of Manchuria.

The Chinese had to grow the rice but were not allowed to eat it – for Japanese only.

The state paid for schools for Japanese, but not for Chinese who had to found private schools (where they had to teach in Japanese).

Young Chinese children from age of about 12 were forced to watch other Chinese children being tortured and killed for “defying” Japanese rule.

By: mjs

mjs — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:14:22 +0000

@peter win

Permission had to be seeked before any of the
actions you mentioned could be done.

East London is a small town.Locals did not feel threatened BUT nearby Port Elizabeth our fellow
south africans did feel ” threatened ” with the
“yellow peril” because the authorities of the day
brainwashed us to believe and assume people of colour are unequal and their actions had to be demonized.

By: Peter Win

Peter Win — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:15:16 +0000

mjs,
I’m surprised at your statements ! I was aware at the time that chinese were discriminated against, but – speaking personally – many chinese attended my school in East London, had shops there, lived in the “white” areas, attended my church and many other churches…

By: letstasti

letstasti — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:13:01 +0000

I am afraid many south africans,black and white,
have fong kong memory banks made in south africa
that break down and loose data from time to time.

By: mjs

mjs — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:36:18 +0000

As a south african chinese person (i cannot with
honestly and proudly call myself a citizen as my fellow south africans only recently accepted me to be a fellow south african)we were forced to live in certain
areas,we were forced to be not educated fairly,
we were forced to not socialise with other races,
we were forced to not do business,we were forced to
not have any religion we chose,we were forced to
not to have dignity nor to be valued….
It certainly not a memory but a fact that needs addressing with our new government

By: mjs

mjs — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:29 +0000

South Africas forced removals are far more evil

As a south african chinese person we were not only
removed by force but we were forced to stay in certain areas,we were forced to be not educated,
we were forced to be restricted to the transvaal,
we were forced not to socialise with other races,
we were forced to have no religion,we were forced
to not to have entertainment,we were forced to be
disadvantaged,we were forced to feel inferior,
we were forced to be underpaid and under valued,
we were forced to have our actions be unfair scrutinised and be approved by the local government and even your evil neighbour.

All of this was done without notice and made law
to modernise the whiteman and degrade people of
colour…..It was the perfect form of ethnic
degeneration that has caused so much damage
to generations of law abiding citizens.

Makes me think that the change in South Africa
is still “fake”……………

By: Lyndall Beddy

Lyndall Beddy — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:36:05 +0000

Every country has the right to expropriate – but it looks like the Chinese Government, like the ANC, tried to get away with not paying “market value” but their intellectuals are resisting this.

This is the same Bull***t the ANC keeps on about that “willing buyer/ willing seller ” does not work because they can’t afford market value.

Good article – I like the photos!

By: fergie

fergie — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:13:55 +0000

It’s called urban renewal in the US where areas of town are torn down to build bridges of roads. The people that are moved get paid for their homes and businesses. However, in China there are whole ethic groups being removed for political reasons in China in different areas.