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	<title>Comments on: The new morality? Selling Mandela&#8217;s &#8216;funeral viewing rights&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Fredrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While close relate to the hero of Africa honorable  Madiba Mandela are praying for their own curse by preparing funeral to the living hero Ipersonally PRAY GOD TO ADD 15 MORE HEALTH YEARS TO THE MOST RESPECTED MAN OF MEN. For few of him are on Earth.

I wish HE BE A TANZANIAN, WE LOVE YOU MAN OF AFRICA. MAY GOD ADD YOU 15 MORE YEARS TO SHAM THOSE WHO ARE PREPARING THE FUNERAL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While close relate to the hero of Africa honorable  Madiba Mandela are praying for their own curse by preparing funeral to the living hero Ipersonally PRAY GOD TO ADD 15 MORE HEALTH YEARS TO THE MOST RESPECTED MAN OF MEN. For few of him are on Earth.</p>
<p>I wish HE BE A TANZANIAN, WE LOVE YOU MAN OF AFRICA. MAY GOD ADD YOU 15 MORE YEARS TO SHAM THOSE WHO ARE PREPARING THE FUNERAL</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I admit that it was a little harsh to think that every one was moaning. I just can’t understand why so many people don’t read the TIMES. After I red all the comments about what grandson didn’t DO with grandpa’s funeral rights, I said to myself ; Len, business is booming in new S.A. You are now all brothers and so if you can’t beat them, join them. Grandson can’t have all the cake to himself !! So I went beside myself and registered all the top domain sites referring to “big M funeral.” So who said you can’t learn from grand children. I don’t play lotto, but there is nothing wrong with my eyes or brain !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I admit that it was a little harsh to think that every one was moaning. I just can’t understand why so many people don’t read the TIMES. After I red all the comments about what grandson didn’t DO with grandpa’s funeral rights, I said to myself ; Len, business is booming in new S.A. You are now all brothers and so if you can’t beat them, join them. Grandson can’t have all the cake to himself !! So I went beside myself and registered all the top domain sites referring to “big M funeral.” So who said you can’t learn from grand children. I don’t play lotto, but there is nothing wrong with my eyes or brain !!</p>
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		<title>By: Rod MacKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod MacKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya Len - everything you say has occurred to me except I dont see myself or the literates on this blog as moaners and groaners.
On the whole we found it amusing and not surprising. I certainly dont feel sorry for myself and doubt the literate among the commentators do either. What on earth for? We are literate, just for a start, aren&#039;t we?

 I cannot (and will not) speak for the semi-lits, such as the pseudo Polish Poodle and Forrest Gump (DH) AKA Captain Klutz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya Len &#8211; everything you say has occurred to me except I dont see myself or the literates on this blog as moaners and groaners.<br />
On the whole we found it amusing and not surprising. I certainly dont feel sorry for myself and doubt the literate among the commentators do either. What on earth for? We are literate, just for a start, aren&#8217;t we?</p>
<p> I cannot (and will not) speak for the semi-lits, such as the pseudo Polish Poodle and Forrest Gump (DH) AKA Captain Klutz.</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of sorry asses,you moaners and groaners are!! Ever took a minute and think that it was Mandela himself that gave little grandson the brilliant idea to sell them funeral rights!!It is the same old story all over again,wake up and stop feeling sorry for yourselfs.(Mandela = money)and (money = Mandela) 
Even Mandela&#039;s head is on money.The 90th birthday
2008 bi-metal R5 coin has broken some world records among world coins.The madness will not stop after his death!!!IT WILL ONLY START!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of sorry asses,you moaners and groaners are!! Ever took a minute and think that it was Mandela himself that gave little grandson the brilliant idea to sell them funeral rights!!It is the same old story all over again,wake up and stop feeling sorry for yourselfs.(Mandela = money)and (money = Mandela)<br />
Even Mandela&#8217;s head is on money.The 90th birthday<br />
2008 bi-metal R5 coin has broken some world records among world coins.The madness will not stop after his death!!!IT WILL ONLY START!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ... just my two cents worth.... someone knows something we dont.... Every possible combination for a Mandela funeral website has been taken... strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8230; just my two cents worth&#8230;. someone knows something we dont&#8230;. Every possible combination for a Mandela funeral website has been taken&#8230; strange.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;@Kit: Do YOU have life insurance?&lt;/i&gt;
Yeah.  Not exactly a substantial sum but at least my family won&#039;t be completely broke, i.e. a balance: the least I can spend whilst still feeling that it&#039;s serving its purpose.  I&#039;m not exactly flush with cash.

Now it&#039;s irrelevant whether or not I have life insurance, since I&#039;m not the happy clappy around here and have reasonable risk tolerance but don&#039;t go around calling the local sewage works a flowerbed.

Now of course if you weren&#039;t even a real person, as Richard P suggests, then the question is not only impertinent and irrelevant but impossible to answer without getting into the kind of details that simply don&#039;t make sense when creating a 2D caricature of a real person.

If, on the other hand, you&#039;re a real person then the answer is more relevant because you pretend to have views that doesn&#039;t match up to your real self, a quintessentially hypocritical position which puts all your other &#039;personal observations&#039; in a less than flattering light.

(And for the record, your comments on Sarah Britten&#039;s piece on Maponya Mall display your complete lack of knowledge of any of SA outside Cape Town and your inability to see anyone else&#039;s reasons for anything.  Do you think that people live in Soweto through choice?  Why yes, many do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>@Kit: Do YOU have life insurance?</i><br />
Yeah.  Not exactly a substantial sum but at least my family won&#8217;t be completely broke, i.e. a balance: the least I can spend whilst still feeling that it&#8217;s serving its purpose.  I&#8217;m not exactly flush with cash.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s irrelevant whether or not I have life insurance, since I&#8217;m not the happy clappy around here and have reasonable risk tolerance but don&#8217;t go around calling the local sewage works a flowerbed.</p>
<p>Now of course if you weren&#8217;t even a real person, as Richard P suggests, then the question is not only impertinent and irrelevant but impossible to answer without getting into the kind of details that simply don&#8217;t make sense when creating a 2D caricature of a real person.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, you&#8217;re a real person then the answer is more relevant because you pretend to have views that doesn&#8217;t match up to your real self, a quintessentially hypocritical position which puts all your other &#8216;personal observations&#8217; in a less than flattering light.</p>
<p>(And for the record, your comments on Sarah Britten&#8217;s piece on Maponya Mall display your complete lack of knowledge of any of SA outside Cape Town and your inability to see anyone else&#8217;s reasons for anything.  Do you think that people live in Soweto through choice?  Why yes, many do.)</p>
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		<title>By: Phillipa Lipinsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillipa Lipinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My o my, I have not been keeping up. Richard P, you need to take it slow. As for me, you can think of me in whatever way or form your simple mind will allow you. 

@Kit: Do YOU have life insurance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My o my, I have not been keeping up. Richard P, you need to take it slow. As for me, you can think of me in whatever way or form your simple mind will allow you. </p>
<p>@Kit: Do YOU have life insurance?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 12:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A variation on the theme

(At the cremation of a dead smoker): &quot;Bic lighters: serving [insert name of deceased] in life and death&quot;

Or, before the first sod of soil hits the coffin, the priest pauses and says to the mourners gathered around:  &quot;First, a word from our sponsors, Prozac ...&quot;

On a more realistic note, I assume that there will be ad breaks during the television coverage of Madiba&#039;s funeral.  I wonder what the TV time will cost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A variation on the theme</p>
<p>(At the cremation of a dead smoker): &#8220;Bic lighters: serving [insert name of deceased] in life and death&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, before the first sod of soil hits the coffin, the priest pauses and says to the mourners gathered around:  &#8220;First, a word from our sponsors, Prozac &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>On a more realistic note, I assume that there will be ad breaks during the television coverage of Madiba&#8217;s funeral.  I wonder what the TV time will cost?</p>
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		<title>By: Rod MacKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod MacKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kit - &quot;It’s probably not Rod, although he’s as distasteful as the rest of us (nah, more :)) at times surely.&quot; I am definitely more distasteful but want to be remembered as making an art form of it :)

Richard P - “The flames of this cremation were ignited with a Lion Match” damn I envy that one.

&quot;Coffin wood supplied by Sappi, 100% recycled as per our Greenpeace policy&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kit &#8211; &#8220;It’s probably not Rod, although he’s as distasteful as the rest of us (nah, more <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) at times surely.&#8221; I am definitely more distasteful but want to be remembered as making an art form of it <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Richard P &#8211; “The flames of this cremation were ignited with a Lion Match” damn I envy that one.</p>
<p>&#8220;Coffin wood supplied by Sappi, 100% recycled as per our Greenpeace policy&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kit

&quot;find the supernatural threats and pissing on graves and worms remarks aimed in hopeful tone at individuals pretty much as revolting&quot;

As the recipient of those threats and statements, I find them amusing rather than offensive, as they simply reflect back on those who make them. 

Anyone who takes Dave, Phillipa (or Dale for that matter) seriously, is giving them a status which they simply do not deserve.

Personally, I think the idea of a sponored funeral is hilarious and think there is much humorous mileage to be made from it.  

&quot;The flames of this cremation were ignited with a Lion Match&quot;

Or even televised adbreaks during the funeral of someone sufficiently well known to pull in the punters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kit</p>
<p>&#8220;find the supernatural threats and pissing on graves and worms remarks aimed in hopeful tone at individuals pretty much as revolting&#8221;</p>
<p>As the recipient of those threats and statements, I find them amusing rather than offensive, as they simply reflect back on those who make them. </p>
<p>Anyone who takes Dave, Phillipa (or Dale for that matter) seriously, is giving them a status which they simply do not deserve.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the idea of a sponored funeral is hilarious and think there is much humorous mileage to be made from it.  </p>
<p>&#8220;The flames of this cremation were ignited with a Lion Match&#8221;</p>
<p>Or even televised adbreaks during the funeral of someone sufficiently well known to pull in the punters.</p>
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