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	<title>Comments on: Malema vs Zille: Do we love what we hate?</title>
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		<title>By: pete ess</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete ess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason this really cracks me up:
On Zille: &quot; . .  when she dances you can see in her dance that she&#039;s missing Apartheid&quot;
LMAO
I&#039;ll try and be more serious next time. From tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason this really cracks me up:<br />
On Zille: &#8221; . .  when she dances you can see in her dance that she&#8217;s missing Apartheid&#8221;<br />
LMAO<br />
I&#8217;ll try and be more serious next time. From tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod MacKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod MacKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 23:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheez Frank, sorry &lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheez Frank, sorry <i></i></p>
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		<title>By: Rod MacKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod MacKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank, thanks but... Old Testament? I have read it, albeit a long time ago when I was a church-goer and it had a number of incidents of circumcision. Including God wanting to kill because some individual was circumcised. I find the topic really interesting and look forward to living in New Zealand where I have access to loads of research material on primitive religions. No ways in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank, thanks but&#8230; Old Testament? I have read it, albeit a long time ago when I was a church-goer and it had a number of incidents of circumcision. Including God wanting to kill because some individual was circumcised. I find the topic really interesting and look forward to living in New Zealand where I have access to loads of research material on primitive religions. No ways in China.</p>
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		<title>By: rocky....</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocky....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s more coming

&quot;I wouldn&#039;t say I&#039;m famous the organisation I lead is popular&quot;

&quot;We are in a school of politics, we are in a laboratory, we are science students, we are experimenting. When there is a minor explosion the teacher shouldn&#039;t run away and say these kids can&#039;t be scientists&quot;

&quot;We were drinking with you on the corner, COPE, but now you walk tall. You claim to be men of the suburbs, but you are products of the squatter camps&quot;

&quot;We had to remind him that he was now a premier … because the man insisted on carrying a lunch box under his arm&quot; on Shilowa

&quot;The role of reverends is to pray for us and genuine prayers so that when we close our eyes we shouldn&#039;t panic that by time we open our eyes Presidential candidates positions would be stolen by those who are praying for us.&quot;

&quot;There is no DA youth....until such a time they tell us when did they go to congress, how where they elected we&#039;ll never recognise such a leadership&quot;

&quot;How do you know that, where did you see it? The husband of Hellen Zille must be worried because it means Hellen Zille had a private session with the President of the ANC Youth League. She must refrain from talking about things she doesn&#039;t know&quot;

&quot;Hellen Zille when she dances you can see in her dance that she&#039;s missing Apartheid &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s more coming</p>
<p>&#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t say I&#8217;m famous the organisation I lead is popular&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We are in a school of politics, we are in a laboratory, we are science students, we are experimenting. When there is a minor explosion the teacher shouldn&#8217;t run away and say these kids can&#8217;t be scientists&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We were drinking with you on the corner, COPE, but now you walk tall. You claim to be men of the suburbs, but you are products of the squatter camps&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We had to remind him that he was now a premier … because the man insisted on carrying a lunch box under his arm&#8221; on Shilowa</p>
<p>&#8220;The role of reverends is to pray for us and genuine prayers so that when we close our eyes we shouldn&#8217;t panic that by time we open our eyes Presidential candidates positions would be stolen by those who are praying for us.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no DA youth&#8230;.until such a time they tell us when did they go to congress, how where they elected we&#8217;ll never recognise such a leadership&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;How do you know that, where did you see it? The husband of Hellen Zille must be worried because it means Hellen Zille had a private session with the President of the ANC Youth League. She must refrain from talking about things she doesn&#8217;t know&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hellen Zille when she dances you can see in her dance that she&#8217;s missing Apartheid &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rocky

Thanks for the quotes, Im in stitches!Love him or hate him, Malema is hilarious. Intelligence though, that&#039;s another matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rocky</p>
<p>Thanks for the quotes, Im in stitches!Love him or hate him, Malema is hilarious. Intelligence though, that&#8217;s another matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank OHara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank OHara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, you mention circumcision and religion together and I assume you mean the Christian/Judeo religion.  Most believe that The Bible commands circumcision but that is probably not the case.  When The Temple burned 2500 years ago, it is believed the original texts were destroyed but remnants remaim including the original portion said to contain &quot;The Covenant.&quot;  It is conspiciously absent.  The Covenant is supposed to date back 4500 years but the Egyptian priests were practicing it more than 6000 years ago.  These priests were the &quot;rock stars&quot; of their days and it appears the Hebrews adopted the practice to emulate their power and influence for themselves.  It was a marking similar to the popularity of tattooing among rock stars today and their fans picking up the practice today to emulate their icons.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, you mention circumcision and religion together and I assume you mean the Christian/Judeo religion.  Most believe that The Bible commands circumcision but that is probably not the case.  When The Temple burned 2500 years ago, it is believed the original texts were destroyed but remnants remaim including the original portion said to contain &#8220;The Covenant.&#8221;  It is conspiciously absent.  The Covenant is supposed to date back 4500 years but the Egyptian priests were practicing it more than 6000 years ago.  These priests were the &#8220;rock stars&#8221; of their days and it appears the Hebrews adopted the practice to emulate their power and influence for themselves.  It was a marking similar to the popularity of tattooing among rock stars today and their fans picking up the practice today to emulate their icons.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julius has called Zille a colonialist, an imperialsit, a racist, a little girl, a Madam. He&#039;s called her chairman a garden boy.

Zille&#039;s only retort has been that he&#039;s immature .. an &#039;inkwenkwe&#039;, which is pretty accurate considering Julius&#039; only contributions to our election debates were insults.

Where&#039;s the &#039;slugfest&#039; Rod?

Btw, there&#039;s an interesting theme under debate elsewhere that insults like Imperialist, Garden Boy and Madam are our new K-words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julius has called Zille a colonialist, an imperialsit, a racist, a little girl, a Madam. He&#8217;s called her chairman a garden boy.</p>
<p>Zille&#8217;s only retort has been that he&#8217;s immature .. an &#8216;inkwenkwe&#8217;, which is pretty accurate considering Julius&#8217; only contributions to our election debates were insults.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the &#8216;slugfest&#8217; Rod?</p>
<p>Btw, there&#8217;s an interesting theme under debate elsewhere that insults like Imperialist, Garden Boy and Madam are our new K-words.</p>
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		<title>By: notinmyname</title>
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		<dc:creator>notinmyname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 10:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the whole fight amusing. Personally, I think HZ should not have stooped to JM&#039;s level (which is really low) but since she has, I think they deserve each other and provide much needed entertainement in the current climate in SA politics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the whole fight amusing. Personally, I think HZ should not have stooped to JM&#8217;s level (which is really low) but since she has, I think they deserve each other and provide much needed entertainement in the current climate in SA politics</p>
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		<title>By: rocky....</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocky....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julius always throws in a joke or two when he&#039;s addressing the crowd or the media and he&#039;s damn funny. Listen to his press conferences, the media and crowd are always eating out of his hand.

&quot;Hellen Zille is a political toddler&quot;,
&quot;If she can fake her face what about the policies?&quot;
&quot;I&#039;m president of all the youth in this country including Hellen Zille&#039;s children&quot;,
&quot;I think I should debate with Hellen Zille and not them because I don&#039;t think they&#039;ve met that standard of political engagement&quot;
&quot;She is not original but is plastic and cannot stand in the heat...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julius always throws in a joke or two when he&#8217;s addressing the crowd or the media and he&#8217;s damn funny. Listen to his press conferences, the media and crowd are always eating out of his hand.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hellen Zille is a political toddler&#8221;,<br />
&#8220;If she can fake her face what about the policies?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;m president of all the youth in this country including Hellen Zille&#8217;s children&#8221;,<br />
&#8220;I think I should debate with Hellen Zille and not them because I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ve met that standard of political engagement&#8221;<br />
&#8220;She is not original but is plastic and cannot stand in the heat&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mandrake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandrake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 08:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At some stage i thought Bhutana Manamela would be a good arch-rival for Julius&#039; taunts, but Nandos has taken the spot. 

I agree that it is unseemly for Zille to be arguing with a foolish kid but its still entertaining.

R100k for the Julius puppet, yho!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some stage i thought Bhutana Manamela would be a good arch-rival for Julius&#8217; taunts, but Nandos has taken the spot. </p>
<p>I agree that it is unseemly for Zille to be arguing with a foolish kid but its still entertaining.</p>
<p>R100k for the Julius puppet, yho!!!</p>
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