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	<title>Comments on: Hogan can argue privatisation is policy</title>
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		<title>By: mary disebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary disebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letlhogonolo I get what you are saying but is it  really necessary to wait for the policy conference next year and wait for 2012 before any changes are implemented. What she said makes perfect sense. aNd Polokwane resolutions never scrapped the privitisation policies.

Things need to change, Its about time the goverment started been efficient and serving the people on the ground not ego&#039;s of leaders......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letlhogonolo I get what you are saying but is it  really necessary to wait for the policy conference next year and wait for 2012 before any changes are implemented. What she said makes perfect sense. aNd Polokwane resolutions never scrapped the privitisation policies.</p>
<p>Things need to change, Its about time the goverment started been efficient and serving the people on the ground not ego&#8217;s of leaders&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lehlohonolo Phadima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lehlohonolo Phadima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reg, i think you&#039;re missing the point. It is not about whether she could &quot;justify&quot; what she said through searching for some statement in ANC policy that might leverage her instinct-talk/gut-talk. 
The worrying thing, is what appears to be her tendency to necessarily exchange policy for this very gut-talk. It is very wrong, confusing, and if acceptable, could set a wrong precedent for the culture of sending contradictory signals to government policy.
You cannot be acceptable to spend money, time and precious skills in researching and debating policy only to be undermined by people because the &quot;think freely&quot;. No one is saying people should not think freely, this should happen within the confines of how policy is developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg, i think you&#8217;re missing the point. It is not about whether she could &#8220;justify&#8221; what she said through searching for some statement in ANC policy that might leverage her instinct-talk/gut-talk.<br />
The worrying thing, is what appears to be her tendency to necessarily exchange policy for this very gut-talk. It is very wrong, confusing, and if acceptable, could set a wrong precedent for the culture of sending contradictory signals to government policy.<br />
You cannot be acceptable to spend money, time and precious skills in researching and debating policy only to be undermined by people because the &#8220;think freely&#8221;. No one is saying people should not think freely, this should happen within the confines of how policy is developed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Harris writes of &#039;important CORE services&#039;. I think there is a typo here. What he meant to write was &#039;important CADRE services&#039; and that means keeping any state institution, no matter how useless and costly it might be, in existence because it provides slots for cadre deployment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Harris writes of &#8216;important CORE services&#8217;. I think there is a typo here. What he meant to write was &#8216;important CADRE services&#8217; and that means keeping any state institution, no matter how useless and costly it might be, in existence because it provides slots for cadre deployment.</p>
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		<title>By: The Creator</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Creator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She can certainly say that, but it would not be true; indeed, she should be fired. The fact that Mantashe was involved rather than Zuma, however, suggests that she will not be.

At the moment we have an enormous economic crisis. Shattering South Africa&#039;s public enterprises (which is basically Hogan&#039;s declared agenda) if they are not immediately profitable would contribute to this crisis. (The money ploughed into underperforming enterprises is invariably far less than the money which would be lost if the enterprises were closed down.) Hogan is clearly a deluded neoliberal and is talking nonsense which undermines the ANC&#039;s professed agenda.

The fact that she has not been dismissed suggests that the ANC&#039;s real agenda is well to the right of its professed agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She can certainly say that, but it would not be true; indeed, she should be fired. The fact that Mantashe was involved rather than Zuma, however, suggests that she will not be.</p>
<p>At the moment we have an enormous economic crisis. Shattering South Africa&#8217;s public enterprises (which is basically Hogan&#8217;s declared agenda) if they are not immediately profitable would contribute to this crisis. (The money ploughed into underperforming enterprises is invariably far less than the money which would be lost if the enterprises were closed down.) Hogan is clearly a deluded neoliberal and is talking nonsense which undermines the ANC&#8217;s professed agenda.</p>
<p>The fact that she has not been dismissed suggests that the ANC&#8217;s real agenda is well to the right of its professed agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Hlabirwa</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/regrumney/2009/06/12/hogan-can-argue-privatisation-is-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-85395</link>
		<dc:creator>Hlabirwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people want to voice an opinion cantrary to that of the ANC, they join such parties as DA,ID and cope. Members of the ANC should know by now that official positions of the ANC are communicated through what channels. And one has a view contrary to the party position there are avenues to raise that. 
Those who want to be seen to be independent should follow Mr Feinstein and his ilk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people want to voice an opinion cantrary to that of the ANC, they join such parties as DA,ID and cope. Members of the ANC should know by now that official positions of the ANC are communicated through what channels. And one has a view contrary to the party position there are avenues to raise that.<br />
Those who want to be seen to be independent should follow Mr Feinstein and his ilk.</p>
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		<title>By: Old, female, paleface</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old, female, paleface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is definitely not !
Politicians want to tender and get their share so butt out with efficient management.
There are billions up for grabs for cheap delivery of tenders (or halted constructions).
Our ANC cadres are only billionaires and aim for trillions so Hogan - you are counter-revolutionary !
Enough is uncountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is definitely not !<br />
Politicians want to tender and get their share so butt out with efficient management.<br />
There are billions up for grabs for cheap delivery of tenders (or halted constructions).<br />
Our ANC cadres are only billionaires and aim for trillions so Hogan &#8211; you are counter-revolutionary !<br />
Enough is uncountable.</p>
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		<title>By: GS van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ANC believes that:

1. Policies set by the NEC are mandatory for all members.
2. These policies can only be changed by the NEC.
3. Members should act as a collective with each one given on their given task to achieve the goal of the NEC.
4. Strict enforcement of party discipline.

Hogan did not conform to these rules - it is not in the ANC&#039;s culture to discuss policy in public. She will either conform or be removed

“Democratic” centralism will not lead to free flow of ideas in the ANC – especially in a country with no real opposition party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ANC believes that:</p>
<p>1. Policies set by the NEC are mandatory for all members.<br />
2. These policies can only be changed by the NEC.<br />
3. Members should act as a collective with each one given on their given task to achieve the goal of the NEC.<br />
4. Strict enforcement of party discipline.</p>
<p>Hogan did not conform to these rules &#8211; it is not in the ANC&#8217;s culture to discuss policy in public. She will either conform or be removed</p>
<p>“Democratic” centralism will not lead to free flow of ideas in the ANC – especially in a country with no real opposition party.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Annandale</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/regrumney/2009/06/12/hogan-can-argue-privatisation-is-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-85313</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Annandale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to see Gwede Mamtashe&#039;s level of involvement in this issue...seems he is now taking over the roll as boss and the rest dance...including Jacob Zuma

More on the Hogan saga at:http://blogs.24.com/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=9f5d3758-e66f-4448-8ddb-4fc5062c2521</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to see Gwede Mamtashe&#8217;s level of involvement in this issue&#8230;seems he is now taking over the roll as boss and the rest dance&#8230;including Jacob Zuma</p>
<p>More on the Hogan saga at:<a href="http://blogs.24.com/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=9f5d3758-e66f-4448-8ddb-4fc5062c2521" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.24.com/ViewBlog.aspx?blogid=9f5d3758-e66f-4448-8ddb-4fc5062c2521</a></p>
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		<title>By: Benzol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benzol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Privatisation is not the only solution. State enterprises could be run on sound business and management principles as Government departments should also do.

The fault does not necessary lie with the chosen business model but with the lack of competence and ethics at management levels and lack of work ethics at workers level. 

The latter requires so many control measures that in the end no one does anything for fear to be held responsible and loose the 1 million+ income package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Privatisation is not the only solution. State enterprises could be run on sound business and management principles as Government departments should also do.</p>
<p>The fault does not necessary lie with the chosen business model but with the lack of competence and ethics at management levels and lack of work ethics at workers level. </p>
<p>The latter requires so many control measures that in the end no one does anything for fear to be held responsible and loose the 1 million+ income package.</p>
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		<title>By: Siobhan</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/regrumney/2009/06/12/hogan-can-argue-privatisation-is-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-85299</link>
		<dc:creator>Siobhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And was it not President Zuma who first said that &#039;inefficiencies&#039; in the public service would not be tolerated? Why is he applauded whilst Hogan is villified for saying it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And was it not President Zuma who first said that &#8216;inefficiencies&#8217; in the public service would not be tolerated? Why is he applauded whilst Hogan is villified for saying it?</p>
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