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Forget apartheid, time ANC government took responsibility

By Zipho Shusha

There has been a clash among the ANC top brass concerning Trevor Manuel’s utterances. Manuel said it was time for the government to take responsibility for its actions. “We [government] should no longer say it’s apartheid’s fault.” He further said that “we should get up every morning and recognise we have responsibility. There is no longer the Botha regime looking over our shoulder, we are responsible ourselves”.

On the 27th of this month we are celebrating the 19th anniversary of a democratic RSA and confronted with the inevitable question: What has been the value of democracy to the masses of the people of this country? Has the promise of a better life for all been fulfilled, deferred or are the poor masses still trapped in grinding poverty? Have the masses of this country prospered in the democratic South Africa?

We need to ask why Limpopo learners had to go to school the whole year without textbooks. Why are more than 50% of young people in South Africa unemployed? Here’s an outrageous idea — it is the current government’s fault. I’ve just about had it with being told “it’s apartheid’s fault”. It’s a deeply dishonest assertion to make. And honesty is a vital step in this scary and confusing journey we’ve taken together as South Africans. What astonished me most about this “blame apartheid” rhetoric is we refuse to make our government accountable for what is currently happening. I understand that apartheid was a horrible system that disenfranchised South Africans based on their skin colour and did its best to make sure they would forever be poor and uneducated. But our government is no saint either, Hendrik Verwoerd had nothing to do with government’s failure to deliver textbooks to Limpopo learners. Neither did PW Botha have anything to do with awarding that Limpopo department of education tender.

Here’s another outrageous idea — our government doesn’t take service delivery seriously, probably because it knows we still blame apartheid. It’s taking advantage of our misplaced outrage, while we turn a blind eye on its blunders, look the other way and blame apartheid. We take the foot off the accelerator and begin to excuse their faults and finally tolerate them.

A mistake made (and will surely be repeated in the comments below this column) is that people will say: “Too much talk about how bad our leaders and intellectuals are but no practical solutions. We’ve read and heard these daily attacks heaped on our leaders too many times. Every South African newspaper and interactive website has academics, experts, writers, intellectuals and counter-intellectuals telling us how bad our leaders have been. Enough please.”

I say the fact that we hear this every day is irrelevant. These leaders are mandated by us to lead. So if they commit injustices against us, shall we not hold them accountable? Lest I be accused of denigrating black leaders I must hasten to emphasise that there are many unforgivable acts committed by our colonisers and apartheid oppressors but the ill-treatment we’re rewarded with by our very own black leaders is as bad. And if we stop criticising our leaders then it means we stop holding them accountable, which is part of our responsibility as citizens.

Dear government employee, when you’re tempted to tell us “its apartheid’s fault”, think of that poor youth in the township or rural area. See if your words give hope to them. As Nelson Mandela said “let there be work, bread, water and salt for all”. So until the government stops blaming its blunders on apartheid and takes full responsibility for what’s currently happening, people must be angry with the government. Anything else would mean selling out what our fallen heroes and heroines died for. It’s as simple as that!

Zipho Shusha is 28 years old and believes young South Africans have a duty to share their views and not let other people define them and tell them what to think or do.

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  • 42 Responses to “Forget apartheid, time ANC government took responsibility”

    1. joe #

      nice piece Zipho, you ask: “…shall we not hold them accountable?” Yes definitely, but unfortunately South Africa is a democracy without democrats or put differently a democracy that lacks people who can hold their leaders accountable.

      April 16, 2013 at 5:02 pm
    2. Mr. Direct #

      It is my democratic right to vote for a party that I believe will best serve my needs.

      Making excuses does not serve my needs, justified or otherwise.

      April 16, 2013 at 5:04 pm
    3. Why do- or need- concerned and enlightened citizen from within or outside the
      “anointed party” tip toe around the ever emerging paralyzes and failures to deliver- given the chances of a 20 year uninterrupted cycle of a one party rule?

      Is it respect, diplomacy, self preservation, collectivism, cowardice, fear, unafricanism-lack of political choices or a concoction of all?

      Not to remain on a journey that leads to nowhere, stuck in uninspiring politburo bureaucracy, traveling to a never- never land, should be a simple decision? It stops in 2014- enabling a safe change in direction!

      Year after year passes- while the world economy ‘still’ allows it- time, budgets and opportunities are wasted, while nothing great is achieved. Always the usual- blame the absence of magicians & the past!

      Witnessing with envy miracles around the globe, where hundreds million of people were brought out of poverty- even with a ‘politburo’- creating modern cities, instead our bleak and collapsing RDP houses with primitive infrastructure. Despite all examples, SA’s ruling collective vision is muddled, too busy maintaining its support base, fertilizing nepotism & just messing around!

      Will be interesting to see if the combining spirits of enough Ziphos’, Trevors’ etc, our iron ladies, the Rampheles’, De Lilles’, Zilles’ & others will make a difference and propell SA towards an african miracle- deservedly so!

      April 16, 2013 at 9:18 pm
    4. DeeGee #

      Isn’t it easier to flog a dead horse than it is to make sure those in power are accountable? How can anyone have any faith in a government that, instead of disciplining bad behaviour, it “re-deploys”. By saying that it’s Apartheid’s fault and a vote for another party would be a vote to take us back to Apartheid is all very convenient.

      I’m not so naive to believe that years of Apartheid can be wished away in a short 20 years. But the issues we see today that can be easily solved by competent governance has very, very little to do with Apartheid. Billions of Rands that go unaccounted for has nothing to do with Apartheid. Kids not getting textbooks has nothing to do with Apartheid. And so on….

      April 17, 2013 at 7:07 am
    5. Bravo! Goes to show, as they say, you can fool some of the people some of the time and all that, but everyone can’t be fooled all the time.

      Democracy means keeping leaders accountable. The peaceful way to do this is at the polls. It’s not a question of voting for the right person, it’s a question of making it politically viable for the wrong person to do the right thing.

      April 17, 2013 at 8:06 am
    6. The Creator #

      The only way to actually hold government accountable is to understand what it is doing and especially what it is doing wrong. Nobody actually thinks that apartheid is the source of the problem, when the problem is how to get rid of the after-effects of apartheid. The real problem is that Zuma and those who think like him are saying “Rome wasn’t built in a day” when they actually show no signs of building anything.

      But let’s not forget that Manuel is the man largely responsible for the failure of service delivery by his refusal to encourage economic growth and his hostility to redistributive and egalitarian policies — which has continued into the so-called National Development Plan. And the people who are saying that government must be held accountable all seem to support Manuel. In other words, Zuma’s political stunts in Limpopo (which are the real reason for the relatively unimportant textbook crisis) are not the big issue; the big issue is the really important policies which everyone is urging us to pay no attention to.

      If government policies are bad, implementing them better is not the answer.

      April 17, 2013 at 8:27 am
    7. Tofolux #

      @Zipho, inasmuch as you do all this fingerpointing, I think you need to point one at yourself for misleading and mischief. TM has put his comments in context and so has the President himself. The problem however is that you do not want to accept these contextualisations and you do not want to hear the location of those comments. Simply put, how could Trevor possibly be delegated with a huge task of the National planning policy.How cud he hav dealt with the framework of this policy, appointing commissioners, leading delegations on behalf of govt and the Presiden without understanding the contextualisation, location of the material conditions.What was the point of departure(?) But as you touch on intellectuals, let me say that some who deem themselves intellectuals are non other than anti-govt critics and talk shoppers. None of these talk-shoppers have the mentality of Fanon,Slovo,Gwala,Marks,Bunting,
      Netshitenshe,Thabo Mbeki etc.etc(I havent even begun to list the women) The problem with the microwave intelligentsia is that they fail to reflect our conditions or our dreams,today. They yell at the top of their voices about us, without us.They do not resonate with us. I also think that most of you have unashamedly dismissed Thabo Mbeki who is a wonderful eg of a Thoughleader and a product of the ruling party as an intellectual. Ppl such as him and others warrants the title of intellectual. It is a disservice to parade weak thinkers as a reflection of ourselves.

      April 17, 2013 at 8:31 am
    8. My thoughts #

      I think leaders need a “mind shift”. Nobody put an “X” next to Zuma’s name when they voted and Mr Zuma knows that. He has zero incentive to satisfy any voter’s wants. Just the 4,000 leaders of the ANC to give him another term. Perhaps if we voted for a person to represent us, the leader’s may be more responsive to the voters.

      As it stands now leaders only view themselves as responsible their own. They should see themselves as servants of both their own voters and the opposition’s voters.

      April 17, 2013 at 9:58 am
    9. I agree to an extent but believe we should recognize how elements of the apartheid ideology has been taken over by the current government. Until that recognition we will not be able to move on and always give the ANC a tool to garner votes.

      April 17, 2013 at 10:23 am
    10. John Badenhorst #

      Right on, Zipho. It is our responsibility now; ours and the government’s, and we have nothing to hide behind if we do not call our leaders to account.

      April 17, 2013 at 10:47 am
    11. Thandinkosi Sibisi #

      Agreed Zipho.

      What is tragic about this whole thing is that while Manuel is preaching “accountability” Zuma wants to blame the “legacy of apartheid “, when people of your generation ( and my children’s generation) have not “realy experienced apartheid”. That is how distant apartheid is from us.

      Before the would be Marxists attach me with their usual arguments alluding to the ” poverty of the working class”, there is a fundamental difference between aparteid “blatant racism” which actually died long before 1994 and poverty which is partly a legacy of apartheid and partly a result of the falure o f the ANCs policies

      Why does Zuma want to keep on telling us the obvious truth about the ” legacy of apartheid” instead of explaining to us where he got money for his lavish lifestyle? I come from a generation that knows apartheid not only its legacy for heavens sake ! I want to see progress not black billionaires with pollitical connections!

      April 17, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    12. Zipho #

      @Tofolux
      In our shortcomings, a lot of times when most of us present our bickering, blinded by excitment, we often move away from the subject brought forward, and sometimes attack the man instead of the ball.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the damage created by over 300years of colonialism can be addressed in few years.BUT the government should take it’s fair share of responsibility for what has happened in the last 19years, case in point, to mention just a few, is Limpopo textbooks saga, can we blame apartheid for that?

      April 17, 2013 at 2:38 pm
    13. All I can say is that we can’t blame apartheid for ever and everything. It’s time our current leaders get their act together. If they are unable to govern then let’s take our votes somewhere.

      April 17, 2013 at 4:12 pm
    14. Momma Cyndi #

      It is going to take time to get over the legacy of apartheid but I’d hoped that we would have at least seen a lot more progression than we have. In all honesty, we are going backwards and not forwards. The Gini Coefficient is worse and so is the unemployment. That is possibly due to our government being somewhat schizophrenic. The complete lack of accountability and the upside-down priorities are not helping either.

      April 17, 2013 at 5:26 pm
    15. Zeph #

      Apartheid did great damage and will take some time to correct. But one cannot excuse the mismanagement of public service. There are some good policies but the implementation is diabolical. Also, those very same policies are in place for a veneer of good but behind it all are the money grubbing connected. I see this every day; inflated prices and non delivery…
      It is beyond a crisis and is a joke. Government, do you feel nothing? Have you no humanity?

      April 17, 2013 at 6:40 pm
    16. Cde Fanny Mabuso #

      It took the ANC one hundred years to build a credible winning mass based organisation to bring the every person freedom and the eradication of poverty, and it took President Zuma three years to destroy that through greed, incompetence and corruption.

      Makes you think does it not?

      April 17, 2013 at 8:19 pm
    17. @Tofolux,

      although your opinion is respected as any other one- it is the nature in today’s multi party democracy- in contrast to your beloved one party state- not to cheer Comrade Leader at every occasion like its done with absurd Kim Jong Un- but to fairly criticize mismanagement and corruption!

      Are you unconsciously contextualizing a totalitarian one party state, while others think democracy?

      ‘Contextualization’ used so efficiently to muddle the past and its heros- “them” required ‘than’ to only be full time intellectuals, without the skills to manage a country. The present career politicians are only tasked to manage the country, but forgiven for any lack of intellectualism, being just a bonus, sometimes a hindrance!

      Witnessing the country being mismanaged into the ground- ‘over- contextualizing’ too much can equally be labeled mischievous, blind and unpatriotic.

      A present example: due to a flight of state hospital doctors- night shift of doctors have been suspended, resulting in a wave of ‘mischievious’ death and catastrophic conditions – a reminder to the time when intellectual Thabo condemned tousand of Aid patients to the grave! Our socialist leaders should be forced to only use our so social state hospitals and practize socialism- not explain it!

      Sorry, but the emphasis is on professionalism, hands on Managers, technical skills, correct attitude to work & not on an army of past & present intellectuals to run the country!

      April 17, 2013 at 8:29 pm
    18. Alois #

      Would you also tell the American South to “forget the Civil War”? Israel to “forget the Holocaust”? The Chinese to “forget the Rape of Nanking”? And so forth and so forth and so forth. Why is it that so many victims of outrageous fortune, particularly the African, can highlight their historical past and, in contrast, the African is always called upon to “forgive, reconcile, and forget”? In case of the African, the selection of “reconcile” is amusing since there is no history in all of Africa where colonization was done from a position of mutual affection and respect!

      April 18, 2013 at 1:36 am
    19. Alois #

      History records Thomas Jefferson as saying it would take the United States some 200 years to clear itself from the legacy of slavery. That hasn’t happened. The state of America as relates to the African American is a sorrowful mess, e.g., horrifyingly high rates of prison detentions, horrifyingly high rates of drop-outs, horrifyingly high rates of cities populated overwhelmingly by African Americans going belly up. Try visiting Camden, New Jersey, and Detroit, Michigan, for starters on your next vacation to the US. Oh, yes, don’t forget Stockton, Ca., and interestingly enough, predominantly Caucasian San Bernardino, CA. An Africa scholar pointed out that it has taken England some 300 years to shake off the dust of the Norman Conquest of 1066. In conclusion, then, time does not heal quickly, does it? After all, South Africa has but some two decades under its belt as a “Rainbow Nation” after some 300 years of ipso facto and de facto apartheid. So simplistic finger pointing will not help the solution, will it?

      April 18, 2013 at 1:49 am
    20. Gert Swart #

      The truth is that white South Africans, who benefitted from apartheid, have worked their butts of in trying to make the “new” South Africa work. They could not turn the clock around and go back in time to fix the wrongs of apartheid, but they could have given our best in making this country a better place for all. And most white people I know, have done exactly that.

      It is alledged that R650 Bn was lost to corruption over the past 18 years.
      This is not small changed – In fact, poverty in this country could have been eradicated many times over.
      Every citizen could have had his own home with that kind of money.
      This actually made the effects of apartheid on our “new” South Africa irrelevant.

      If the effects of apartheid could have been eliminated and poverty in SA be eradicated, and it was not done due to the corruption and greed by the ANC, then it can not be fair and just to blame apartheid or those who benefitted from apartheid any longer.

      In my view the ANC has commited treason to the very same people who sacrificed so much to get them into power.

      April 18, 2013 at 3:28 am
    21. Tofolux #

      @Zipho, I think you need to interrogate the system of governance before making grand statements. Sure the human element is clearly not scientific and sure there are some amongst us in ALL societies who will fail us. This is not the norm but the exception. Let me use the analogy, a person goes for a drivers licence and without soliciting is approached by all sorts of persons around a testing station actually telling the learner that they can BUY a licence. This will be done through the licence dept with the help of a particular examiner. Now pray tell, who is corrupt? Is it govt in general or the minister? If we are serious abt corruption, then finger these bad apples and go after them with all the gusto such as displayed with the crit against this govt. Do not make blanket statements that are confusing that absolves thos in society who are complicit. But in accusing this govt of poor performance it would be prudent for you to tell us that you measure them against the apartheid govt. It would also be prudent for you to note that our system of govt (negotiated lets add) has so many constraints in the 3 spheres its applaudable that administrators have managed under the material conditions of governance, oversight, control, and the legal framework and that it is unlike the apartheid system. Before you measure, then compare the apartheid laws of governance against this current 3 tier system. Ask yourself how a developmental country made it this far under these conditions.

      April 18, 2013 at 8:20 am
    22. Tofolux #

      @Proactive, there is something called intellectual honesty and its this honesty that one must be able to rely on when one respects the opinion of another. It cannot be that when you in particular say something, I show unwillingness to accept that in the context you say it. How would I possibly use my tools of analysis to arrive at a credible conclusion and logically locate what you mean. Cmon on, we cannot be this disingenuous and pretend that some must be robotic. At the very least acknowledge that we are multi-dimensional beings. I say this against the background that you moot that blacks in general and africans in particular are so mindless, we have no capacity to think. Sure this must be the programming and indoctrination that you were fed pre democracy but I can assure you, that we are logical,independent and constructive thinkers. This has been said by many of the intellectuals I have noted and yet you still intimate that we are somehow inhuman. Sure the emphasis is on professionalism but it takes human beings to make a profession. These are mostly practical people who put action into practise. It is misleading to say that intellectuals are behind every profession. You simply cannot think a job done. Show some honesty man.

      April 18, 2013 at 10:32 am
    23. Enough Said #

      White South Africans have done a lot to try and correct the wrongs of apartheid. They constantly argue for a free and independent judiciary and media freedom of speech and transparency in government.

      Unfortunately some politically connected black families in cahoots with families like the Gupta’s are doing their level best to entrench economic apartheid to the same extent it was pre-1994.

      The gap between rich and poor has hardly altered after 20 years of ANC rule. Don’t blame apartheid for that, blame Zuma.

      April 18, 2013 at 10:34 am
    24. Zipho #

      @Tofolux

      Maybe that’s what hold us back don’t you think? That we even want to blame even simple and basic things on the past and refuse to take responsibility. Yes systematically it will take many years to recover from apartheid, but a simple thing as delivering textbooks to learners, or building a road to a village, or fixing pothholes on the road, when there is money allocated to do those things can’t be blamed on apartheid now, can it? And that is the point of this opinion peace, for the government to take responsibilty. And as soon as we blame apartheid for everything then we’re saying “Zero tolarance” to responsibility

      April 18, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    25. Yaj #

      Apartheid , its perpetrators and its beneficiaries have a lot to answer for. However , Trevor Manuel is very cleverly trying to get himself off the hook for his part in pursuing and championing the neoliberal economic policies over the last 18 years which have exacerbated the legacy of apartheid, which have worsened the inequality and unemployment bequeathed to us by apartheid and which have greatly enriched the corporate financial oligarchy and the previously advantaged elite together with the new emerging elite in this country. Trickle-down economics,financial deregulation,removal of exchange controls, trade liberalisation and “free” market Washington consensus work for the rich 1% not for the masses or the previously disadvantaged people of this country. Clever Trevor’s policies have failed us miserably. It is not only corruption or the lack of implementation that is the problem;it is the entire paradigm. The likes of Maria Ramos ,however,will be laughing all the way to the bank with their R17million annual bonus and salary packages in spite of their company’s dismal losses and poor performance.

      April 18, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    26. MrK #

      Comparing the ANC’s neoliberal and neocolonial situation to apartheid, the writer states:

      ” But our government is no saint either, Hendrik Verwoerd had nothing to do with government’s failure to deliver textbooks to Limpopo learners. ”

      No, that would be the ‘failure’ (the word failure implies that you tried and failed – I’m not that sure they tried) to take the mines back from the Rothschild Barons (through their De Beers).

      http://www.rothschild.com/our_history/1880-1914/

      This is the backlash Zimbabwe received, because that is who they really went up against when they redistributed De Beers’ Debshan Ranch.

      http://www.news24.com/xArchive/Archive/Zim-More-white-farms-listed-20030814

      So the question – who can take back the mines (and have enough money for re-investment and Limpopo textbooks), without being demonised, have the currency attacked, etc.

      But we need to have a way to take back the natural resources of the country (all countries) from the old colonial/apartheid era corporations, and stop the bleeding of capital out of the economy.

      That is the way forward, whoever does it. In South Africa, my bet is on the ANC though. But the ANC has to get off their neoliberal track.

      April 18, 2013 at 3:17 pm
    27. MrK #

      Yaj,

      ” Clever Trevor’s policies have failed us miserably. It is not only corruption or the lack of implementation that is the problem;it is the entire paradigm. The likes of Maria Ramos ,however,will be laughing all the way to the bank with their R17million annual bonus and salary packages in spite of their company’s dismal losses and poor performance. ”

      Let’s not forget that this is a worldwide phenomenon. The IMF and World Bank are imposing these policies on every single country in the world. Retaliation is brutal, which is what happened in Zimbabwe, which turned away from ESAP in 1996, because of the destructive effects on the economy. (Google: tragic imf zimbabwe juhasz)

      Lumumba was murdered as an example. So was JFK in the US. Many more heads of state followed.

      Just like the Vietnamese could not achieve national independence by removing the American puppet, and had to remove the Americans first, we can’t really get rid of the IMF/World Bank system, until we get rid of the extreme wealth of the trillionairs.

      Trillions of dollars are laundered through tax shelters, and there is a $32 trillion shadow economy out there.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18944097

      When you look at a Glencore International PLC, they made their headquarters in Switzerland – and they’re not a Swiss company. :) They literally moved their headquarters to a tax shelter.

      April 18, 2013 at 7:23 pm
    28. @Tofulux

      why hijack the debate to your parallel universe? Let’s stay firmly grounded in SA 2013 AD & within the pre-set theme. We are restricted to 1500 characters- there is no space to waste getting lost in volumes of dissertations, deviations and insinuations! Simplest tool to use is photographic reality, plain honesty & some etiquette while airing opinions.

      Most of us know about the secretes of the oracle of Delphi- honestly, what are your secrete tools of analysis? Deviating from subjects- using and insinuating your favoured “this in general and that in particular” painting yourseves into a most unfavourable corner is unhelpful! But…………… all this by your own free choice!

      Sorry T, I never refer to color etc..by reading your comments however, you once more insinuate that- and label all critics as helpless victims, having been indoctrinated or brainwashed from birth- for being non africans- how would you know- which oracle whispers into your ears?

      Disingenious would be, if results produced by your “analyzing tools” are not calibrated to a measure of neutrality- giving wrong readings and mischievously deviating from the set agenda! Nobody expects robotoc politicians- just honest ones, dedicted to their parliamentarian implementing task, since employed & paid by all ‘in general’ and not by a clique in a party ‘in particular’!

      Our concern about each others indoctrination seems reciprocal. If I could, I would give you another PhD!

      April 18, 2013 at 9:13 pm
    29. Thobani #

      @Tofolux

      poor service delivery that SA has experienced under “democratic Government” with all if not more than what the apartheid gorvenment had (no sanctions, “equality”, quality education, multi-party and racial enagement forums, TRC-laid foundation to democracy, the best constitution, autonomy, ‘intellectuals’ and media with a freedom of speech for constructive criticism etc) does not in any way account as to why we should always look back and blame apartheid for today’s mistakes like those Zipho and other speakers has highlighted. However, i do not say those tragic experirnces that we suffered from that regime should be not be spoken about or blamed in its level but i concede with those who believes that our Gorvenment (an individual) should be accountable, more responsible and pragmatic in an attempt to bring about “a better life for all”.

      April 18, 2013 at 9:27 pm
    30. Tofolux #

      @Zipho, the non delivery of textbooks is just plain wrong. We all agree. The matter is under investigation and I cannot understand how a ”thoughtleader” can pronounce on this even before he has ALL the facts. If you wanted to do us all a favour to appreciate this debate, then dig a little deeper for your own facts and maybe you might bring some integrity to the table. But lets be real, Limpopo as we ALL know, is a Province under administration. What is yr objective understanding of this? Here again, let make the point, if you unpacked the constraints of the 3 tier system, then clearly your conclusion would be different. But I am recognising this song you sing, I see the familiar words, the common thread and I ask why the intellectual dishonesty? Why is it that ONLY some of us are to be transparent and honest? And why is it that others can continuously lie? It is unacceptable to say that the playing fields is level in SA after 18yrs of democracy and that ALL CITIZENS have equality? How can this be acceptable when the CENSUS figures tells us how unequal this society still is. Do we say that poverty is a result of this democracy? Plze explain the CENSUS findings of the wage gap between whites and blacks? Is this a result of democracy? The irony however is that you fail to raise the issue of the wholesale SILENCE of whites against the background of their continued benefication. I requested some introspection but clearly you will protect those who are our faultlines.

      April 19, 2013 at 8:12 am
    31. Mr. Direct #

      How can any of you waste time with this pointless debate about the past? It cannot be changed, it can only be corrected now and in the future.

      Government ministers make good money because they have a lot of responsibility. If they have no responsibility, then they should earn nothing.

      If they are incapable of doing their job, they should be fired. Anything else is mismanagement.

      If they are serious about serving this country, and are incapable of doing their job, they should resign. Anything else is stealing…

      If another political party takes power, and they are as bad as some of the current minsters, trust me, I will be saying the same thing.

      So, if we can all agree – lets get rid of Motshekga, Pule and Zuma already – cos man they stink at their jobs…

      April 19, 2013 at 8:40 am
    32. Tofolux #

      @Thobani, Go and tell any black person, especially black women in the workplace that they will be promoted on merit. Remember the triple challenge and black women in particular when YOU say that APARTHEID IN 2013 HAS VANISHED FROM ALL SPHERES OF OUR LIVES. Go and tell any black male who leaves university today with a BA that they will get into the workplace within 6 months. If you havent lived and worked in Jozi and seen the absolute marginalisation of blacks in the workplace, tell me that is becos of democracy. This lying is really unacceptable.

      April 19, 2013 at 11:49 am
    33. Comrade Koos #

      @Tofolux

      “Go and tell any black male who leaves university today with a BA that they will get into the workplace within 6 months.”

      There is as little work for white people with BA’s, probably even less because of affirmative action.

      In a survey of 144 countries on mathematics education, South Africa came 143rd. Second from the bottom, the worst was Yemen.

      Our standard of education is shocking, no wonder people cannot get jobs.

      Mamphele Ramphele says it is worse than the shocking education dished out by the old apartheid regime.

      April 19, 2013 at 2:55 pm
    34. Let’s not blame apatheid? Its a fallacy that all the problems we are facing are mainly attributed to the current leadership. Blame both systems atleast

      April 19, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    35. Enough Said #

      @joezzy

      You cannot change apartheid, its happened, its history.

      You can however change the current leadership so new leaders that can remedy what both apartheid and the current leadership have wrought on this country.

      If we don’t get a change soon we are perpetuating the status quo.

      April 20, 2013 at 6:52 am
    36. MrK #

      Enough Said,

      ” You can however change the current leadership so new leaders that can remedy what both apartheid and the current leadership have wrought on this country. ”

      That presumes that the current problems are a matter of leadership. Who is going to guarantee that the next batch have a formula for working around the control of the trillionairs over our natural resources?

      Certainly, the neoliberal DA does not qualify.

      This is what Glencore International, under the cover of ‘free trade’ and IMF/World Bank ‘privatisation’ are doing to the country of Zambia – and any other country they get their hands on:

      (YOUTUBE) Good Copper, Bad Copper
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uamzirLswjk

      (YOUTUBE) Stealing Africa – Why Poverty? BBC Documentary
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNYemuiAOfU

      Now on corruption – clearly, this kind of stealing can only happen through corruption and functional dictatorship. Zambia is a democracy. Ironically but not coincidentally, it was not until the IMF/World Bank through their machinations forced the nationalist ‘dictator’ of Zambia, President Kaunda, to again hold multi-party elections in 1991, that pushed into power the extremely corrupt neoliberals, the MMD.

      Democracy brought far greater corruption, because they were created with the purpose of stealing natural resources, through the IMF/World Bank, which are just a privately owned banking cartel, just like the Federal Reserve in the United States.

      April 20, 2013 at 6:32 pm
    37. Honkie Tonk #

      Dear MrK

      “Democracy brought far greater corruption, because they were created with the purpose of stealing natural resources, through the IMF/World Bank, which are just a privately owned banking cartel, just like the Federal Reserve in the United States”

      I believe you are correct, not only aboout Africa but the rest Of the WHOLE worlld.

      WAT IS THE SOLUTION?

      April 21, 2013 at 11:21 pm
    38. MrK #

      Honkie Tonk,

      “WAT IS THE SOLUTION?”

      1) The right of people to their own natural resources has to be recognized worldwide. All natural resources should only be sold to the state at cost, and sold by the state at the highest international market prices. That is the only way there can be no corruption. This should be recognized by the WTO, IMF, World Bank, everybody.
      See: General Assembly resolution 1803 (XVII) of 14 December 1962,
      “Permanent sovereignty over natural resources”
      http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/9D85892AC6D7287E8525636800596092

      2) There has to be a cap on extreme wealth. When someone’s fortune is greater than the country’s GDP, they are also bigger than any democratically elected government. Extreme wealth exists in direct conflict with democracy.

      3) Get off oil and onto solar energy. Oil is what the trillionairs who own ExxonMobil use to keep control over the global economy. Oil makes the Suez Canal relevant, because it carries 35% of the world’s oil from the Middle East to the Mediterranean. That makes Israel, Egypt, Somalia and Yemen relevant, because they control the coastal waters that lead up to the Suez Canal.

      4) End the war on drugs, and with it drug crime. State ownership or heavy taxation of the mines, which will fund universal healthcare and education, public infrastructure and cheap credit for entrepreneurs.

      5) Localisation of the economy, to maximize job creation.

      April 23, 2013 at 5:26 am
    39. born2bJaded #

      @MrK #
      Honkie Tonk,
      “WAT IS THE SOLUTION?”:
      Yours must be the most intellectually factual, honest and truthful comment i have read in a very long time on these comments section. Thank You. I sometimes feel like all these debates back and forth, discussions about apartheid, who to blame etc. is just a screen to blind us to the total slavery of this continent by these cartels. I agree 100% with you. IMF/World bank etc are the new slave masters and we don’t even see it.

      April 25, 2013 at 11:27 am
    40. qwerty #

      After the WWII Germany was badly devastated. Huge loss of life; starvation; shortage of everything; cities in ruins, in many as much as 70-80% of all buildings were destroyed by bombings. Yet, merely in 15 years (fifteen!) Germany was fully rebuilt, and its economy geared up and running, becoming comparable to that in neighbouring countries. Now, what major destruction or loss of life did SA experience after the Apartheid was over, that 20 years has passed, but it still can’t recover. How long the Apartheid will be blamed – 100 years? 200 years? When I read about millions of tax payers’ money abusively spent for Zuma’s homestead palace, meanwhile schools in Limpopo have no textbooks, is Apartheid here to blame, or something else?

      May 1, 2013 at 6:11 pm
    41. I think those blaming Apartheid miss the point. Address the now and properly prepare for the future. When a leader abdicates responsibility for the current governance malaise then he ceases to be a leader in my book. Just a crook building a smokescreen to hide his misdemeanors while the country burns.

      May 21, 2013 at 7:15 am
    42. Mthandeni #

      Trevor Manuel, Blade Nzimande, and many more members of the National Parliament were there in 1994. Many of the problems we have today were created by their in-competencies. There is to much gap between the political principals and the youth in the country. These folks are too old to understand the problems facing youth in this country. It is no surprise that many people who are unemployed are young people. The pity is that they do not even go beyond apartheid. They always blame apartheid, i wont even be surprised to find some blaming apartheid for failing to satisfy their partners in bed. They are even failing to redistribute land. Instead they have confused South African family structure, education and role of teachers. There was a competent education in this country which many blacks were deprived. The ANC should promoted access and integration than wiping out what was established.

      G I don’t even know where to start, this country is on auto pilot. I think to get ahead we need to pass a law that will allow ministers to serve on two terms in parliament otherwise we shall have parliament as a retirement village or old age home.

      January 19, 2014 at 2:12 pm

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