Comments on: Mbeki outwitted Mugabe

By: Cool Down

Cool Down — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:14:06 +0000

Amused reader
There were about 9000 polling stations.The MDC
kept count as results were released and they
are close to the figures released so far.

AS president he is not subject to any criminal or civil proceedings, he remains Head of Government
and the army.

The most powerful institution is the Senate.He who
controls the Senate controls the rest,can use
the Senate to make reduce rest to lame duck status,
‘improving’ legislation or blocking it.It is a
sort of an ‘old wise men club’.

There were four elections which ran simultaneousness,
Presidential,House of Assembly,Senate,Local Council.We are waiting for the Senate and Presidential and might as well while waiting
do some recount.

So Uncle Bob would say,keep your House of assembly,
as long as I am President and control the Senate,
remain Commander in Chief, Head of Government,
I’ll be fine.

No wonder Senate and Presidential results are,let’s say slightly delayed.

By: me

me — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:16:45 +0000

I think Gordon Brown said it best to Mbeki, “If there was silent diplomacy 20 years ago you would have been dead”……. Of course he would have been called a racist for pointing out the obvious

By: amused reader

amused reader — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:36:21 +0000

Cool Down

Please re-read my post. I said “I DON’T MEAN THAT ZEC HAVEN’T RELEASED THE NUMBERS”

I am saying that the numbers they have released are hardly accurate given all the election fixing that went on before those numbers were released. How many of the ZANU PF votes are the extra papers printed, or come from the derelict land voters? The ZEC isn’t independent, it is run by ZANU PF.

I am sure, given your politics, you hate Mugabe, as do I, but you are falling into his trap by legitimising the numbers released by the ZEC. If they now say that 23 constituencies have been recounted and there has been a mistake, that ZANU PF actually have a parliamentary majority, are you going to believe the numbers then?

By: Cool Down

Cool Down — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:23:56 +0000

amused reader
PS Go to: Sometimes I wish Mugabe were dead
for election results.

By: Cool Down

Cool Down — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:16:40 +0000

amused reader

The only results not released are those for
the Presidential election.See other blogs for
election results and why uncle Bob is keen
to retain power.

By: amused reader

amused reader — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:18:01 +0000

@ Cool Down

We don’t actually know what the people of Zimbabwe have voted for, and i don’t mean the ZEC haven’t released the numbers.

As usual Mugabe (clever b*stard that he is)has us arguing over when the figures are released but we seem to have already forgotten the 1000′s of voters registered on derelict land, the 3m extra ballot papers printed, that the armed forces voted a week before the public (and arrival of observers) and had to put the forces number on the back so that their commanders who know who they had voted for, that Tsvangerai couldn’t visit the voter because his helicopter and pilot were impounded etc etc.

If, even after this and so much more, he admits that roughly half of the people voted for Tsvangerai, just imagine how many actually did? You can bet your life that it was a hell of a lot more, not to mention God knows how many who didn’t dare to vote (and just look what is happening to those that voted MDC – read the article in the Sunday Times about the women dragged behind a bakkie on ropes for voting MDC.)

(Vonani – perhaps you should also read it, but no doubt they deserved it).

I think we can safely assume the majority in Zim want change, but as you righly say their are idiots who think Mugabe deserves another chance (Oh we’re back to you Vonani, my favourite imbecile)

By: cool down.

cool down. — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:43:58 +0000

James

Look at the election results,Zanu-PF is still
the biggest single party.Mugabe has been beaten
by the combined opposition,but not thrashed.

It is because the election results are so close
that uncle Bob wont give up.

By: James

James — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:19:05 +0000

I do agree, Bob was smartlt outwitted by Mbeki in this case. The whole nation and the international community know Bob was thrashed by Morgan. Bob doesnt want to admit the people of Zimbabwe spoke. He is taking the battle to Morgan personally. I hope the Zambian emergency SADC meeting comes up with something. Please can someone get an explanation from Mr Mwanawasa, why he allowed BOB’s fleet of bullet proof top of the range cars worth 3 million euros(about R30 million rands)to be shipped from Europe to Zambia, and then driven overnight to Zim on the night of Saturday 5th April9while Zimbabweans were anxiously waiting for election results). This is a true story which someone need to expose.

By: Albert

Albert — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:03:22 +0000

An election has three phases: pre-poll, actual poll and post-election. In this regards we should refrain from giving Mbeki our full credit when there’s strategic procrastination on releasing the presidential outcome. (It appears the result will never be released). We should also not forget that Mbeki’s qualified progress was significantly abetted by the fact that Pretoria worked with Harare within the SADC multilateral framework. The upcoming SADC summit on Zimbabwe then becomes critical – even though it appears none of the SADC countries has the will and capacity to speak out against the revolutionary Uncle Bob.

By: Owen

Owen — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:55:10 +0000

Africa needs more Uncle Bob’s for without them the white colonialist would look like evil people BUT now we know tyrants don’t know skin colour.

Bob even sports a Hitler moustache.

Seriously, SA cannot afford to become the guardian of Zimbabweans so quiet diplomacy has to be the strategy of choice.