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		<title>By: johnnie walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnie walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With reference to my comment earlier this morning, here is one example of an SMS that I received from MTN:

&quot;Ayoba, please note that when you move to the MTN Zone price plan your 1000 loyalty points will be loaded within 7 days.&quot;

I received the aforementioned sms in November 2009. I have received similar correspondence from MTN since then.

If MTN are going to use &quot;Ayoba&quot; as a slogan, then I suggest that the management at MTN do some research to learn the various meanings and interpretations of &quot;Ayoba&quot;

&quot;Ayoba&quot; apparently also means &quot;for sure&quot; or &quot;for real&quot; or &quot;agreement&quot;, as depicted on the WikiAnswers website. 

So MTN, you subject us to your advertising &quot;for sure&quot; and you offer incentives that you claim are &quot;for real&quot;, but then you breach the &quot;agreement&quot;, and now you want us to believe that you are an ambassador for &quot;Ayoba&quot;. How &quot;uncool&quot; is that?

&quot;Ayoba&quot; can also mean &quot;proactive&quot; and &quot;it drives a call to action&quot;. With that in mind, it is going to take plenty &quot;Ayoba&quot; to get MTN to pay attention and correct their wrongs, but in the long run, it will be worth it. 

The ball is now in your (the reader&#039;s) court, you can either play it, or do nothing and expect nothing.

MTN and &quot;the like&quot;, will continue to betray our trust and abuse their position, until we the victims act on the realization that no corporation can withstand the might of a united &quot;voice/people&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With reference to my comment earlier this morning, here is one example of an SMS that I received from MTN:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ayoba, please note that when you move to the MTN Zone price plan your 1000 loyalty points will be loaded within 7 days.&#8221;</p>
<p>I received the aforementioned sms in November 2009. I have received similar correspondence from MTN since then.</p>
<p>If MTN are going to use &#8220;Ayoba&#8221; as a slogan, then I suggest that the management at MTN do some research to learn the various meanings and interpretations of &#8220;Ayoba&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ayoba&#8221; apparently also means &#8220;for sure&#8221; or &#8220;for real&#8221; or &#8220;agreement&#8221;, as depicted on the WikiAnswers website. </p>
<p>So MTN, you subject us to your advertising &#8220;for sure&#8221; and you offer incentives that you claim are &#8220;for real&#8221;, but then you breach the &#8220;agreement&#8221;, and now you want us to believe that you are an ambassador for &#8220;Ayoba&#8221;. How &#8220;uncool&#8221; is that?</p>
<p>&#8220;Ayoba&#8221; can also mean &#8220;proactive&#8221; and &#8220;it drives a call to action&#8221;. With that in mind, it is going to take plenty &#8220;Ayoba&#8221; to get MTN to pay attention and correct their wrongs, but in the long run, it will be worth it. </p>
<p>The ball is now in your (the reader&#8217;s) court, you can either play it, or do nothing and expect nothing.</p>
<p>MTN and &#8220;the like&#8221;, will continue to betray our trust and abuse their position, until we the victims act on the realization that no corporation can withstand the might of a united &#8220;voice/people&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTN offered me 1000 loyalty points to change to a more expensive price plan. (They said that they were going to terminate the price plan that I was on at the time). I complied, then they told me to register on 141 by providing them with my id number. I complied again. Now, MTN are refusing to provide me with the loyalty points. I have complained, but to no avail. They seem to think that soliciting my cooperation by means of false advertising is acceptable practice.

I am disgusted by their conduct and the level of inconvenience that they have subjected me to during my attempts to get this matter resolved.

A call centre staff member told me that I am not the only one who has been misled by MTN in this exact same manner. 

I am motivated to take MTN on in this regard and I request that all subscribers who have a voice, please let it be heard. Turn to the internet and type out your complaints to encourage others who think that they are the only victims.

IN UNITY, lies STRENGHT! COME on South Africans, let&#039;s unite and force MTN to take responsibility for their actions. 

I am willing to use the evidence that I have retained against MTN. This is no longer just about loyalty points. MTN, we have rights and we are going to stand up for those rights.

Anybody who wishes to write an article about this topic, may contact me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTN offered me 1000 loyalty points to change to a more expensive price plan. (They said that they were going to terminate the price plan that I was on at the time). I complied, then they told me to register on 141 by providing them with my id number. I complied again. Now, MTN are refusing to provide me with the loyalty points. I have complained, but to no avail. They seem to think that soliciting my cooperation by means of false advertising is acceptable practice.</p>
<p>I am disgusted by their conduct and the level of inconvenience that they have subjected me to during my attempts to get this matter resolved.</p>
<p>A call centre staff member told me that I am not the only one who has been misled by MTN in this exact same manner. </p>
<p>I am motivated to take MTN on in this regard and I request that all subscribers who have a voice, please let it be heard. Turn to the internet and type out your complaints to encourage others who think that they are the only victims.</p>
<p>IN UNITY, lies STRENGHT! COME on South Africans, let&#8217;s unite and force MTN to take responsibility for their actions. </p>
<p>I am willing to use the evidence that I have retained against MTN. This is no longer just about loyalty points. MTN, we have rights and we are going to stand up for those rights.</p>
<p>Anybody who wishes to write an article about this topic, may contact me.</p>
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		<title>By: vuyisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>vuyisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 06:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are right, the retrenchment is not fair but why are you only talking about MTN? what about Vodafone aka Vodacom? is it because MTN is South African and Vodacom is European?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are right, the retrenchment is not fair but why are you only talking about MTN? what about Vodafone aka Vodacom? is it because MTN is South African and Vodacom is European?</p>
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		<title>By: tansy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tansy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayoba my arse!

It is such an overstated and annoying ad! Thank Goodness i am not an MTN subscriber! I hope the CEOS rot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayoba my arse!</p>
<p>It is such an overstated and annoying ad! Thank Goodness i am not an MTN subscriber! I hope the CEOS rot!</p>
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		<title>By: Ayoba yohhhh</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/petervandermerwe/2009/11/25/mtn-shows-the-meaning-of-ayoba/comment-page-2/#comment-103164</link>
		<dc:creator>Ayoba yohhhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see that this is AYOBA ... !!!! Ayoba yohh,Ayoba,Yoba yohh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see that this is AYOBA &#8230; !!!! Ayoba yohh,Ayoba,Yoba yohh</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 05:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew, interesting and a range of comments. But worth remembering that MTN operates part of what is essentially a monopoly (duopoly etc) granted by the government in exchange for a massive bribe called the licence fee. Investors and management love such things, just look at the profits from a captive market. Open, clear, fair etc competition would clean everything out. Only sustainble jobs would remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew, interesting and a range of comments. But worth remembering that MTN operates part of what is essentially a monopoly (duopoly etc) granted by the government in exchange for a massive bribe called the licence fee. Investors and management love such things, just look at the profits from a captive market. Open, clear, fair etc competition would clean everything out. Only sustainble jobs would remain.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by innov8ive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by innov8ive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Plonked</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plonked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colin

&quot;Most big corporates sacrifice the workers on the altar of shareholder satisfaction.&quot;

Do you not have any shares? Would you invest in a corporation that could eventually make a loss because it is being socially responsible or would you take your money to where it gets a better return?

If you do not own shares directly, do you have a medical aid, pension fund, belong to a trade union that invests in the JSE? If your pension fund does not produce the goods by investing your money prudently for your retirement would you not change pension funds?

Under the current laws we force corporations to sacrifice workets on the alter of profit. 

What are the options:

Should all corporations pay into a slush fund to retrain workers when they become redundant?

Should we move towards a social welfare state with generous unemployemnt benefits?

I believe we need to debate solutions rather than moan and state the obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colin</p>
<p>&#8220;Most big corporates sacrifice the workers on the altar of shareholder satisfaction.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you not have any shares? Would you invest in a corporation that could eventually make a loss because it is being socially responsible or would you take your money to where it gets a better return?</p>
<p>If you do not own shares directly, do you have a medical aid, pension fund, belong to a trade union that invests in the JSE? If your pension fund does not produce the goods by investing your money prudently for your retirement would you not change pension funds?</p>
<p>Under the current laws we force corporations to sacrifice workets on the alter of profit. </p>
<p>What are the options:</p>
<p>Should all corporations pay into a slush fund to retrain workers when they become redundant?</p>
<p>Should we move towards a social welfare state with generous unemployemnt benefits?</p>
<p>I believe we need to debate solutions rather than moan and state the obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter van der Merwe – 
How right you are! 
Spot on with such a hard hitting factual article!
But the sad thing is that this is not a unique situation. Most big corporates sacrifice the workers on the altar of shareholder satisfaction.
In MTN’s case they make money in spite of themselves. Not through solid business processes and systems but by throwing huge amounts of marketing money at the world.
My own big brother company makes profits for its shareholders but we have not seen an increase globally in a number of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter van der Merwe –<br />
How right you are!<br />
Spot on with such a hard hitting factual article!<br />
But the sad thing is that this is not a unique situation. Most big corporates sacrifice the workers on the altar of shareholder satisfaction.<br />
In MTN’s case they make money in spite of themselves. Not through solid business processes and systems but by throwing huge amounts of marketing money at the world.<br />
My own big brother company makes profits for its shareholders but we have not seen an increase globally in a number of years.</p>
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