Comments on: Zapiro shouldn’t apologise

By: Phetogo

Phetogo — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:34:59 +0000

I think the “Hiprocracy” and “death of debate” artcles apply here,I so wish SACP and COSATU were separate fron ANC and were just as powerful,I think this the perfect oppotunity to “debate” this and expose the “hipocracy” within the system,I think as wel we are all cowards this goes back to the platforms we have with our friends or strangers,I do not know how many times I have debated the Zuma or malema issues alone either no one supporting me or being attacked by everyone,even though they agree with me,

Worst of all we make it emotional,most debates often get emotional at some point for no apparet reason,then you racism cards flow,then we attack the messenger.I think we have look at history as well where we were being told what you like,how you should behave,what you belive in,then now you 3 people doing the same thing diffrently which was not there before,now things have changed ,at some point you question your way,thats when the emotional part comes in,defending your way without reasons.The art of debating is missing and we have less free thinkers and a lot of followers is abig problem,people just repeat what they have heard

By: Larry Goodfella

Larry Goodfella — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:52:58 +0000

Furthermore, a constitutional democracy gives the leash in the hands of the people, and not the other way round. Who sould be restrained from their excesses, the people or the politicians?

What you propose is that we remove the leash altogether and just supplicate ourselves to our political masters. This is not the will of the people, especially when the leash dissapears and gets replaced by the whip.

By: Larry Goodfella

Larry Goodfella — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:47:01 +0000

Dave Harris,

The ZA News also depicts Helen Zille in a ridiculous and humorous manner, and pokes fun at her weaknesses and eccentricities.

You have talked yourself into a deep hole of denial and keep digging it deeper. Reminds me of my poor granny who could not utter the name of a dread disease unless it was said in an inaudible whisper. She died of CANCER.

Now GANGRAPE happens unfortunately, and pictures or caricatures from the cartoonist pen do not perpetuate or glorify GANGRAPE. If anything, it may educate towards the elimination of such a scourge. Get off it already.

@Sibusiso Mzila
Sorry, but I cannot respect your naivette, inasmuch as I see it as a culturally induced self-harm that makes you powerless, and Zuma all-powerful. You put your fate in his hands as one does as a small child with his father, yet you are a fully grown man. This same grovelling suplication is what caused your people to bow and scrape to the European colonialists.

Zuma does not deserve your respect. Eventually he will use it to harm you, and still you will venerate him while he stands on your neck. Then again, he may not turn out like HIS EXCELLENCY PRESIDENT MUGABE, but why even give him the chance?

By: Sibusiso Mzila

Sibusiso Mzila — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:02:45 +0000

Larry Goodfellah,

Afrocentric = suicidal!?! Wow, amazing. On this particlar depiction Zapiro jumped the gun. My response was specificlly directed to the author. I respect your view as it is informed by where you have been in life. In the same vein allow me my bondage.
His Excellency President Zuma deserves respect, he may not be a king but he is uBab’ uMsholozi, uNxamalala, a pillar of strength for some of us.

By: Dave Harris

Dave Harris — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:11:25 +0000

@steve
Sorry Steve, I just don’t buy it that Zapiro is not a racist, possibly blind to his racism. Have you seen his latest creation – ZA News or have the producers canned it already?
With freedom of speech comes responsibility, and Zapiro clearly needs help in this department. In any other country, he would be answerable to numerous watchdog organizations for his behavior. In SA, blacks are far too tolerant of his demeaning, racist “satire”.

By: Mbuyi

Mbuyi — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:30:46 +0000

Shapiro does not bit about the bush,the man is not diplomatic,he is straight forward and generous with truth,that is what our comrades hate about Shapiros of our country.They are happy if you sugar-coat your critism torwards them.But try and be yourself and speak your mind,they get ugly instantly.They are good in inventing terms to describe their critics,like you rightly point out JJ,as some are dogs,baboons and so on,but come to the mandate received in the polls,realy our counrty will be planning until fifty years lapses since democracy if this is the pace things are happening and the people do not derserve that,let us not shift goal posts comrades,service to the people today

By: Molotov Cocktail

Molotov Cocktail — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:45:01 +0000

If i were you , i would most probably concentrate all my energies of spinning in convincing the various factions of COPE to unite behind one leader before it (COPE)dies a natural death, which seems inevitable in any way, taking into account the egos of the power mongers leading it. That is the only reason they left the ANC.

By: derek james

derek james — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:05:45 +0000

Zapiro is a brilliant cartoonist..possibly the most incisive in the world…as the best and the worst come from RSA.

More strength to your drawings, Zapiro, and if the truth hurts others….so be it

By: steve

steve — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:07:56 +0000

Gang Rape: We have the highest rape rate in the world. More women are raped, attacked and gang raped than in any other place in the world. The activity depicted in the cartoon is not an outlandish thing for some South African men to be caught doing. The only difference is that it involves the office of the president. Is that what makes people angry? What about the actions of the president and his allies? Do they equate with rape?

Dave Harris; this is not a race thing. It’s an anger thing. The cartoon is a cartoonist lashing out in anger at the elite, not at a race. If you track Zapiro’s work over many years, he is very clearly not racist. He’s very obviously a freedom-loving democracy-doting pinko: But he does get angry. He’ll draw George Bushes brain in his a*s, he’ll draw Zuma abusing lady justice. And, if Zuma’s people try to “stamp him out” or whatever it is they threaten him with, he’ll get angry with them, and he’ll do it again, just to prove his point.

It’s psychology we’re dealing with here dave, not race.

have a good day.

By: mallencolly

mallencolly — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:18:00 +0000

@ Dave Harris

Do us all a favour and prove to us that these cartoons are steroptyping anyone. Your saying so does not make it true no matter how often you repeat it.