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		<title>By: Marius Redelinghuys</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/mariusredelinghuys/2010/02/23/jacob-zuma-is-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-113572</link>
		<dc:creator>Marius Redelinghuys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Perplexed: The reality is, actually, that I was not even referring to the reports in the mass media, my main focus was on reporting the &quot;complete trash&quot; emanating from social networking sites and opinion pieces, columns and commentary made by real, ordinary South Africans pro- or anti-ANC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Perplexed: The reality is, actually, that I was not even referring to the reports in the mass media, my main focus was on reporting the &#8220;complete trash&#8221; emanating from social networking sites and opinion pieces, columns and commentary made by real, ordinary South Africans pro- or anti-ANC.</p>
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		<title>By: Benzol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benzol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You laid down your concerns. Fine; what&#039;s next??

How about voting a multi-party government into power? It could create some internal controls between the various party officials. Leaking the results to the general public would be more of a possibility. Transparency will improve.

How do we do that? The standard answer of a Saffer on the question of voting is: &quot;I do not vote because I do not like the ANC and there is no real opposition...and...I will never vote for the DA&quot;. I heard this answer many times when the NP was in power. That is precisely why they stayed in power for so long.

To get a &quot;one party&quot; government changed into a multi-party government, all unhappy souls should (1) vote come hell of high water (2) vote for any opposition party whether they like the party or not, preferably (but not necessarily) a party with some base. 

Campaigning should concentrate on (1) &quot;more parties in government will enhance transparency&quot;. (2) A &quot;no vote&quot; goes mostly to the party with the most votes; in our case the ruling party. (3) &quot;no voters&quot; must not complain about the results as they have contributed to the ruling party&#039;s victory.

Try if it works in your own municipality in the coming elections. You might be surprised!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You laid down your concerns. Fine; what&#8217;s next??</p>
<p>How about voting a multi-party government into power? It could create some internal controls between the various party officials. Leaking the results to the general public would be more of a possibility. Transparency will improve.</p>
<p>How do we do that? The standard answer of a Saffer on the question of voting is: &#8220;I do not vote because I do not like the ANC and there is no real opposition&#8230;and&#8230;I will never vote for the DA&#8221;. I heard this answer many times when the NP was in power. That is precisely why they stayed in power for so long.</p>
<p>To get a &#8220;one party&#8221; government changed into a multi-party government, all unhappy souls should (1) vote come hell of high water (2) vote for any opposition party whether they like the party or not, preferably (but not necessarily) a party with some base. </p>
<p>Campaigning should concentrate on (1) &#8220;more parties in government will enhance transparency&#8221;. (2) A &#8220;no vote&#8221; goes mostly to the party with the most votes; in our case the ruling party. (3) &#8220;no voters&#8221; must not complain about the results as they have contributed to the ruling party&#8217;s victory.</p>
<p>Try if it works in your own municipality in the coming elections. You might be surprised!!</p>
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		<title>By: Perplexed</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/mariusredelinghuys/2010/02/23/jacob-zuma-is-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-113534</link>
		<dc:creator>Perplexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lehlohonolo, do you honestly believe that what Marius has written here, &quot;is complete trash&quot;. Do you honestly believe that the country can go on like this? Do you honestly believe that SA can continue to be misruled,corrupted and mismanaged the way it has by the ANC and its cadres..and then,hope to leave a legacy for your children and hopefully, grandchildren,one day. Sit down Lehlohonolo, ..and in a quiet moment...try answer these questions, honestly. 

And lastly..when you have...Do you really think , all that is written in Marius&#039;s column and what you read blazoned across many news paper,evey day..is a &quot;Mass Media Plot&quot; ,with the sole intention,to denigrate ZS and his ANC cabul? Dont you think, what is trying to be said, is that:-&quot;We still have a chance..but we ALL, had better wake up quickly!!??&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lehlohonolo, do you honestly believe that what Marius has written here, &#8220;is complete trash&#8221;. Do you honestly believe that the country can go on like this? Do you honestly believe that SA can continue to be misruled,corrupted and mismanaged the way it has by the ANC and its cadres..and then,hope to leave a legacy for your children and hopefully, grandchildren,one day. Sit down Lehlohonolo, ..and in a quiet moment&#8230;try answer these questions, honestly. </p>
<p>And lastly..when you have&#8230;Do you really think , all that is written in Marius&#8217;s column and what you read blazoned across many news paper,evey day..is a &#8220;Mass Media Plot&#8221; ,with the sole intention,to denigrate ZS and his ANC cabul? Dont you think, what is trying to be said, is that:-&#8221;We still have a chance..but we ALL, had better wake up quickly!!??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pete ess</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete ess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worse: Zuma is now a puppet and the ANC faction fighting will once again sap all energies, as they jostle for position. Just like nothing could get done (and no-one could get fired) while the Mbeki vs Zuma back-stabbing was in play. Zuma is impotent. All he can do now is call for indabas and inquiries and audits and etc. More expense and zero outcome. It&#039;s not a good picture. The cost of supporting this non-leader is massive - and we will pay for it in poverty and military crackdowns as the in-fighting becomes fiercer and breaks into the open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worse: Zuma is now a puppet and the ANC faction fighting will once again sap all energies, as they jostle for position. Just like nothing could get done (and no-one could get fired) while the Mbeki vs Zuma back-stabbing was in play. Zuma is impotent. All he can do now is call for indabas and inquiries and audits and etc. More expense and zero outcome. It&#8217;s not a good picture. The cost of supporting this non-leader is massive &#8211; and we will pay for it in poverty and military crackdowns as the in-fighting becomes fiercer and breaks into the open.</p>
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		<title>By: Perplexed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perplexed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zuma ...and by association the ANC, is a confused,muddled,poorly rehearsed and meaningless &quot;Stand up comedy weak joke&quot;. A joke,that is being played upon all of us,South Africans. The audience, however,(even those with a bizzare and strange scence of humour) attending this very weak show..and starting to see (as you say)..that the Joke is On Us..and its actually, not very funny . And like all shows, that are weak and fail to impress..the audience will leave and their doors, will eventually close. The ANC&#039;s days are numbered. I am just hoping, there is a happy ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuma &#8230;and by association the ANC, is a confused,muddled,poorly rehearsed and meaningless &#8220;Stand up comedy weak joke&#8221;. A joke,that is being played upon all of us,South Africans. The audience, however,(even those with a bizzare and strange scence of humour) attending this very weak show..and starting to see (as you say)..that the Joke is On Us..and its actually, not very funny . And like all shows, that are weak and fail to impress..the audience will leave and their doors, will eventually close. The ANC&#8217;s days are numbered. I am just hoping, there is a happy ending.</p>
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		<title>By: Stev Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stev Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JZ discredits himself far more than a Facebook group ever will... Question is, will it matter?

Nope! Not when your voters are all facists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JZ discredits himself far more than a Facebook group ever will&#8230; Question is, will it matter?</p>
<p>Nope! Not when your voters are all facists!</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also worth noting is that nearly 20 million (40%) of Saffricans are too young to vote. I think Mandela was making a profound point when he proposed lowering the voting age to 14: perhaps he was indicating that people vote for themselves (their past, their current loyalties), and not for their childrens futures.

Even Kieno Kammies could not give his vote to an opposition party (despite being spoilt for choice, with over 150 contesting parties). And he has children, for whom he professes to be a protective father.

Perhaps I underestimate the desperation of &#039;the masses&#039; ... perhaps the DA&#039;s opportunity to demonstrate an effective alternative to ANC governance on a provincial level will swing significant votes away from the ANC in the local elections next year.

... but I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also worth noting is that nearly 20 million (40%) of Saffricans are too young to vote. I think Mandela was making a profound point when he proposed lowering the voting age to 14: perhaps he was indicating that people vote for themselves (their past, their current loyalties), and not for their childrens futures.</p>
<p>Even Kieno Kammies could not give his vote to an opposition party (despite being spoilt for choice, with over 150 contesting parties). And he has children, for whom he professes to be a protective father.</p>
<p>Perhaps I underestimate the desperation of &#8216;the masses&#8217; &#8230; perhaps the DA&#8217;s opportunity to demonstrate an effective alternative to ANC governance on a provincial level will swing significant votes away from the ANC in the local elections next year.</p>
<p>&#8230; but I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Henri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lehlohonolo - JZ does not need media to discredit him...he is doing a fine job of it all by himself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lehlohonolo &#8211; JZ does not need media to discredit him&#8230;he is doing a fine job of it all by himself!</p>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lehlohonolo, what Marius is trying to say is that there&#039;s no NEED to attempt to discredit JZ using the mass media. He does a fine job himself. The mass media just reports the end results. And if you can&#039;t see that, the joke is definitely on YOU...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lehlohonolo, what Marius is trying to say is that there&#8217;s no NEED to attempt to discredit JZ using the mass media. He does a fine job himself. The mass media just reports the end results. And if you can&#8217;t see that, the joke is definitely on YOU&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lehlohonolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lehlohonolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a piece of trash. We have gone passed this and attempts to discredit JZ using mass media failed dismally and will always fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a piece of trash. We have gone passed this and attempts to discredit JZ using mass media failed dismally and will always fail.</p>
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