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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why go to the airport to welcome someone whose performance came out of the end on a needle wielded by her East German dope-cheat coach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why go to the airport to welcome someone whose performance came out of the end on a needle wielded by her East German dope-cheat coach?</p>
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		<title>By: sgubhusenkwishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgubhusenkwishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ian Shaw, If genital organs are not a proof of sex , which biochemical laboratory did you consult  
to find out if your girlfriend ,you live with is a real female according to your lab.based belief? 
You sound naive to me, In that way there shall be no body called anything till proven by labs, 
As Racists wont be so called until, proven to be mental deranged or psycho imbalanced to equate psychoses, than obvious, racism. Based on racial hatret.
Nobody shall be called anything as if our world has just started to excist following the scientific discoveries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ian Shaw, If genital organs are not a proof of sex , which biochemical laboratory did you consult<br />
to find out if your girlfriend ,you live with is a real female according to your lab.based belief?<br />
You sound naive to me, In that way there shall be no body called anything till proven by labs,<br />
As Racists wont be so called until, proven to be mental deranged or psycho imbalanced to equate psychoses, than obvious, racism. Based on racial hatret.<br />
Nobody shall be called anything as if our world has just started to excist following the scientific discoveries.</p>
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		<title>By: Horak</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/mariusredelinghuys/2009/08/26/malema-and-the-white-question/comment-page-1/#comment-91266</link>
		<dc:creator>Horak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Malema,I was not at the AirportI will never be at the airport on a working dayI justcannot stay away from work.When I am Ill I bring a Docters certificate, otherwise I need to take a days leave and put in an application 48hours MINIMUM before unless for death of IMMEDIATE family taking days leave to welcome somebody I do not even know and evertime somebody wins will leave me no LEAVE Left
to spend with my children once a year,The are MORE Inportant than anybody else to me I am their parent. This girl has parents she is not first to win gold will not be last. YOU SEE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THIS COUNTRY GOVERNMENT SHOULD EMPLOY PEOPLE LIKE US THEN GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS WILL WORK SERVICE IMPROVE AND CORRUPTION KILLED. HOPE THOSE AT THE AIRPORT WITH MALEMA HAD OFFICIAL LEAVE UNPAID LEAVE,otherwise they should be FIRED BY THEIR boss BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY LIKE ME WHO NEED  their JOBS OR WERE THEY ALL UNEMPLOYED SELF EMPLOYED OR like you who does not do a days work to the benefit of anybody but JUST rides around talking nonsense insulting people By the way I am white,woman and I am responsible educated and disciplined If we just stay away it affects my company, fellow employees  some BLACK too,we could be without jobs. Company will be closed, If at all u can understand that. Very good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Malema,I was not at the AirportI will never be at the airport on a working dayI justcannot stay away from work.When I am Ill I bring a Docters certificate, otherwise I need to take a days leave and put in an application 48hours MINIMUM before unless for death of IMMEDIATE family taking days leave to welcome somebody I do not even know and evertime somebody wins will leave me no LEAVE Left<br />
to spend with my children once a year,The are MORE Inportant than anybody else to me I am their parent. This girl has parents she is not first to win gold will not be last. YOU SEE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THIS COUNTRY GOVERNMENT SHOULD EMPLOY PEOPLE LIKE US THEN GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS WILL WORK SERVICE IMPROVE AND CORRUPTION KILLED. HOPE THOSE AT THE AIRPORT WITH MALEMA HAD OFFICIAL LEAVE UNPAID LEAVE,otherwise they should be FIRED BY THEIR boss BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY LIKE ME WHO NEED  their JOBS OR WERE THEY ALL UNEMPLOYED SELF EMPLOYED OR like you who does not do a days work to the benefit of anybody but JUST rides around talking nonsense insulting people By the way I am white,woman and I am responsible educated and disciplined If we just stay away it affects my company, fellow employees  some BLACK too,we could be without jobs. Company will be closed, If at all u can understand that. Very good article.</p>
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		<title>By: ian shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt sorry for the abuse meted out to Semenya. However,whether a sportsperson is female or not depends not on the genital organ but on a hormonal profile carried out in a biochemical laboratory. Any other opinion is false, biased, ignorant and politically skewed. In fact, in Semenya&#039;s interest,a medical expert should investgate the reasons for a potential hormone imbalance. For example, a tumour, no matter how small, may impinge on a gland that produces excess male hormone. Don&#039;t you think that such a medical investigation would be in Semenya&#039;s interest? There is nothing racist about this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt sorry for the abuse meted out to Semenya. However,whether a sportsperson is female or not depends not on the genital organ but on a hormonal profile carried out in a biochemical laboratory. Any other opinion is false, biased, ignorant and politically skewed. In fact, in Semenya&#8217;s interest,a medical expert should investgate the reasons for a potential hormone imbalance. For example, a tumour, no matter how small, may impinge on a gland that produces excess male hormone. Don&#8217;t you think that such a medical investigation would be in Semenya&#8217;s interest? There is nothing racist about this!</p>
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		<title>By: setloholo</title>
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		<dc:creator>setloholo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont&#039;t know how South African political parties select people top become their spokespersons, whatever criteria Cope used to select you for your current position; you are proving to be an asset worth the selection. Judging by the response to this article alone, should the party give you the freedom you need to do your thing you will help them cover a bigger ground in a short space of time. I am not a South African and unlike most of my compatriots, I don&#039;t hold a South African official documentation of some sort, but I follow your country&#039;s politics, very seriously. Keep up the good work, education, age, sex and gender are the best assets on your side. My country Lesotho would be blessed to have young people of your calibre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont&#8217;t know how South African political parties select people top become their spokespersons, whatever criteria Cope used to select you for your current position; you are proving to be an asset worth the selection. Judging by the response to this article alone, should the party give you the freedom you need to do your thing you will help them cover a bigger ground in a short space of time. I am not a South African and unlike most of my compatriots, I don&#8217;t hold a South African official documentation of some sort, but I follow your country&#8217;s politics, very seriously. Keep up the good work, education, age, sex and gender are the best assets on your side. My country Lesotho would be blessed to have young people of your calibre.</p>
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		<title>By: Madoda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madoda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete ess,

My sincere apologies for being naive in assuming that you are not Australian and are a South African. Because Oscar is a South African I will never seek to cast aspersions on questions relating to the possibility that his condition might disadvantage other athletes.

To make you analogy relavant to the Caster issue, I would assume that my son and daughter has already come second best against the suspected South Afircan &#039;cheat&#039; and I did not raise issues the first time in SA. As a South African, therefore I should not raise issues when he or she competes against Australians. Unless I am a closet Australian living in SA.

You analogy is inappropriate because my bone of contention is not with Caster&#039;s fellow athletes because I do not have qualms with them raising concerns if they have reasonable basis and disclose those basis. 

My problem is South African journalists and talk-show presenters, casting baseless aspersions on any child because they want to increase their audience ratings or sell newspapers. Furthermore, drugs here are not an issue. I do not have problems with drug testing in sports. I see no reasonable basis for parents in an African rural setting not being proud of a boy-child and raising him as girl in order to win in IAAF.

Surely, when fellow competitors only raise concerns when they get beaten, the matter should be taken with a pinch of salt because of sour grapes. Caster lost for 3 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete ess,</p>
<p>My sincere apologies for being naive in assuming that you are not Australian and are a South African. Because Oscar is a South African I will never seek to cast aspersions on questions relating to the possibility that his condition might disadvantage other athletes.</p>
<p>To make you analogy relavant to the Caster issue, I would assume that my son and daughter has already come second best against the suspected South Afircan &#8216;cheat&#8217; and I did not raise issues the first time in SA. As a South African, therefore I should not raise issues when he or she competes against Australians. Unless I am a closet Australian living in SA.</p>
<p>You analogy is inappropriate because my bone of contention is not with Caster&#8217;s fellow athletes because I do not have qualms with them raising concerns if they have reasonable basis and disclose those basis. </p>
<p>My problem is South African journalists and talk-show presenters, casting baseless aspersions on any child because they want to increase their audience ratings or sell newspapers. Furthermore, drugs here are not an issue. I do not have problems with drug testing in sports. I see no reasonable basis for parents in an African rural setting not being proud of a boy-child and raising him as girl in order to win in IAAF.</p>
<p>Surely, when fellow competitors only raise concerns when they get beaten, the matter should be taken with a pinch of salt because of sour grapes. Caster lost for 3 years.</p>
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		<title>By: GS van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TlanchTau

Do yourself a favour and read what the Sociology of Work Unit (SWOP), a research entity connected to the Wits sociology department have to say about Mr Jimmy Manyi&#039;s report.

SWOP is held in high regard by the government, unions (also Cosatu), so think before you dismiss this report as simply an attack on the &quot;social revolution&quot; in South Africa.

At best the report is unscientific and at worse skewed to that which the ANC agenda requires. There is little hope to find the path to the true Rainbow Nation with people like you and Mr Jimmy Manyi around!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TlanchTau</p>
<p>Do yourself a favour and read what the Sociology of Work Unit (SWOP), a research entity connected to the Wits sociology department have to say about Mr Jimmy Manyi&#8217;s report.</p>
<p>SWOP is held in high regard by the government, unions (also Cosatu), so think before you dismiss this report as simply an attack on the &#8220;social revolution&#8221; in South Africa.</p>
<p>At best the report is unscientific and at worse skewed to that which the ANC agenda requires. There is little hope to find the path to the true Rainbow Nation with people like you and Mr Jimmy Manyi around!</p>
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		<title>By: TlanchTau</title>
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		<dc:creator>TlanchTau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And finally to the Author here.
I would like to challenge you to write an article on the EE stats that were released by Jimmy Manyi lately. That’s if you really care about reconciliation and healing this race obsessed country of ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And finally to the Author here.<br />
I would like to challenge you to write an article on the EE stats that were released by Jimmy Manyi lately. That’s if you really care about reconciliation and healing this race obsessed country of ours.</p>
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		<title>By: TlanchTau</title>
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		<dc:creator>TlanchTau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bentley Price-Moore on August 27th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
And which one do you think I was pointing to? You also just felt the need to write something for the heck of it. 
@Bruce on August 27th, 2009 at 7:27 pm- Jeez man, you are just like the guy above.
@Madoda on August 27th, 2009 at 7:58 pm- Well said Sir.
@David on August 28th, 2009 at 3:08 am- and that’s all you can think about? That all you felt you can comment on, when I said more things there for you talk about?
@Currently Disadvantaged on August 28th, 2009 at 8:41 am-
-There is nothing to listen to when coming to Sentle(whatever), he is just an Mbeki apologist and seeing that Mbeki is no longer here he will obviously try and but the white’s face. What does he have to say about the current EE Stats? I would love to hear him write a blog about that and for once it would be nice if he can write a blog without “Mbeki” in it. 
@Phillipa Lipinsky on August 28th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Where did you get those stats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bentley Price-Moore on August 27th, 2009 at 7:08 pm<br />
And which one do you think I was pointing to? You also just felt the need to write something for the heck of it.<br />
@Bruce on August 27th, 2009 at 7:27 pm- Jeez man, you are just like the guy above.<br />
@Madoda on August 27th, 2009 at 7:58 pm- Well said Sir.<br />
@David on August 28th, 2009 at 3:08 am- and that’s all you can think about? That all you felt you can comment on, when I said more things there for you talk about?<br />
@Currently Disadvantaged on August 28th, 2009 at 8:41 am-<br />
-There is nothing to listen to when coming to Sentle(whatever), he is just an Mbeki apologist and seeing that Mbeki is no longer here he will obviously try and but the white’s face. What does he have to say about the current EE Stats? I would love to hear him write a blog about that and for once it would be nice if he can write a blog without “Mbeki” in it.<br />
@Phillipa Lipinsky on August 28th, 2009 at 9:13 am<br />
Where did you get those stats?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Joffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Joffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Judge Nicholson overturned the case against Zuma, Malema addressed the crowd and demanded the end of Mbeki. Guess what happened? Mbeki was recalled.
When the case against Zuma was reinstated for obvious reasons, Malema started the rush for ‘a political’ settlement and guess what happened? We got a ‘political settlement’ instead of a judicial one and the law failed again in SA as it so often does.
When Malema says what he says, sadly most of his supporters blindly follow him and it makes me wonder who really is running the country. A trail of crazy consequences follow in his footsteps and soon he may well be singing the Zuma Machine Gun song and issuing them to all and sundry to fight racism? Anything is possible with this man as is the case with the ANC. 
Vote for the ANC and get more of the same and then protest because you are getting more of the same.
When will this end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Judge Nicholson overturned the case against Zuma, Malema addressed the crowd and demanded the end of Mbeki. Guess what happened? Mbeki was recalled.<br />
When the case against Zuma was reinstated for obvious reasons, Malema started the rush for ‘a political’ settlement and guess what happened? We got a ‘political settlement’ instead of a judicial one and the law failed again in SA as it so often does.<br />
When Malema says what he says, sadly most of his supporters blindly follow him and it makes me wonder who really is running the country. A trail of crazy consequences follow in his footsteps and soon he may well be singing the Zuma Machine Gun song and issuing them to all and sundry to fight racism? Anything is possible with this man as is the case with the ANC.<br />
Vote for the ANC and get more of the same and then protest because you are getting more of the same.<br />
When will this end?</p>
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