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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Zimbabwe? In Zimbabwe, the Mugabe regime has the political, economic and social power to discriminate against whites, and it has done so via land confiscation. So in situations where blacks actually do have the power to discriminate against whites (like in Zimbabwe), do said actions become racist, or do they remain something other than racism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Zimbabwe? In Zimbabwe, the Mugabe regime has the political, economic and social power to discriminate against whites, and it has done so via land confiscation. So in situations where blacks actually do have the power to discriminate against whites (like in Zimbabwe), do said actions become racist, or do they remain something other than racism?</p>
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		<title>By: Are Blacks Homophobic and Does Opposing Gay Marriage Make you a Hater?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are Blacks Homophobic and Does Opposing Gay Marriage Make you a Hater?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I find fascinating about this charge is that for decades we have been told by the left that black people cannot be racist because they lack institutional power. Consequently, my question for Mr. Maxwell is this: If racial [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I find fascinating about this charge is that for decades we have been told by the left that black people cannot be racist because they lack institutional power. Consequently, my question for Mr. Maxwell is this: If racial [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 12:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate Andile&#039;s &quot;conceptual fidelity&quot; point. And I understand that on a large scale black people do not have the power to subjugate white people, so in that sense they cannot be racist.

But then this is my question: On a small scale, on the level of individuals and groups of people, black people may well have the power over white people. Perhaps not as far as to subjugate them, but power nonetheless. 

So if individual black people, or groups of black people, purposefully use the power they have over a white person, or white people, to harm them or control them, and if they are doing this motivated by racial antagonism, then wouldn&#039;t that be racist?

This could be as small a thing as a black teller at Home Affairs dishonestly making a white person jump through unnecessary hoops and bring extra documentation and giving them incorrect information, purposefully because they are white. Or on a slightly larger scale, workplace politics where white employees are purposefully marginalised in a black dominated environment.

I am not saying that this is a widespread problem. But surely, if and when this sort of thing occurs, it would fit the definition of racism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate Andile&#8217;s &#8220;conceptual fidelity&#8221; point. And I understand that on a large scale black people do not have the power to subjugate white people, so in that sense they cannot be racist.</p>
<p>But then this is my question: On a small scale, on the level of individuals and groups of people, black people may well have the power over white people. Perhaps not as far as to subjugate them, but power nonetheless. </p>
<p>So if individual black people, or groups of black people, purposefully use the power they have over a white person, or white people, to harm them or control them, and if they are doing this motivated by racial antagonism, then wouldn&#8217;t that be racist?</p>
<p>This could be as small a thing as a black teller at Home Affairs dishonestly making a white person jump through unnecessary hoops and bring extra documentation and giving them incorrect information, purposefully because they are white. Or on a slightly larger scale, workplace politics where white employees are purposefully marginalised in a black dominated environment.</p>
<p>I am not saying that this is a widespread problem. But surely, if and when this sort of thing occurs, it would fit the definition of racism?</p>
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		<title>By: Zukiswa Mqolomba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zukiswa Mqolomba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought-provoking piece Suntosh. Well written.

Sadly enough, racism will forever remain a permanent feature in SA body politic.

I stand to be corrected, but I think that South Africa faces a class question that has manifested itself in visible racial forms, because of the heritage of apartheid and general colonial rule. The main cause of concern is more the issue of gross inequalities between black and white, as well as amongst black people as a racially group.

The honest truth is that racism, pre-1994, served largely an economic purpose (minimising labour costs, by enslaving and devalueing the labour of the majority &quot;the other&quot;; which happened to be the black populace). The only way that to sustain the super exploitation of the mineral wealth of &quot;the majority other&quot; to serve narrow interests of the &quot;minoity self&quot;, was by imposing a racist ideological superstructure. By tempering with the pycho-social realm of mainstream society, the &quot;self&quot; could justify and prolong the enslavement and super-exploitation of the &quot;majority other&quot;.

The creation of the super-class and class underdogs, by racial lines is what&#039;s been eating at us for so many years now.

So if we don’t address the racial divisions of class subjugation, racism will forever be an albatross and a permanent feature of South Africa&#039;s body politics. If we don’t address the class questions, as a consequent of historic disadvantage, racism will remain a permanent feature in South African society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought-provoking piece Suntosh. Well written.</p>
<p>Sadly enough, racism will forever remain a permanent feature in SA body politic.</p>
<p>I stand to be corrected, but I think that South Africa faces a class question that has manifested itself in visible racial forms, because of the heritage of apartheid and general colonial rule. The main cause of concern is more the issue of gross inequalities between black and white, as well as amongst black people as a racially group.</p>
<p>The honest truth is that racism, pre-1994, served largely an economic purpose (minimising labour costs, by enslaving and devalueing the labour of the majority &#8220;the other&#8221;; which happened to be the black populace). The only way that to sustain the super exploitation of the mineral wealth of &#8220;the majority other&#8221; to serve narrow interests of the &#8220;minoity self&#8221;, was by imposing a racist ideological superstructure. By tempering with the pycho-social realm of mainstream society, the &#8220;self&#8221; could justify and prolong the enslavement and super-exploitation of the &#8220;majority other&#8221;.</p>
<p>The creation of the super-class and class underdogs, by racial lines is what&#8217;s been eating at us for so many years now.</p>
<p>So if we don’t address the racial divisions of class subjugation, racism will forever be an albatross and a permanent feature of South Africa&#8217;s body politics. If we don’t address the class questions, as a consequent of historic disadvantage, racism will remain a permanent feature in South African society.</p>
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		<title>By: Phemelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phemelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said ELLE!
Nothing can be further from the truth.How many Black boys want to play rugby and ultimately achieve that?We know that it takes a lot of nutrition at home alone to build a body ready for the sport.Then it goes to the school.Former Model C schools were given the best facilities to prepare anyone for rugby and that includes a coach who only did rugby.You then get provincial teams who do not recruit in the townships.These are the very provincial teams that vote people like Oregin Hoskins as SARU president cause he does not address transformation vigorously.Just as Gerald Majola is failing.As you go higher up the ranks of rugby to the Springboks,we see why Pieter De Villiers is struggling to get players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said ELLE!<br />
Nothing can be further from the truth.How many Black boys want to play rugby and ultimately achieve that?We know that it takes a lot of nutrition at home alone to build a body ready for the sport.Then it goes to the school.Former Model C schools were given the best facilities to prepare anyone for rugby and that includes a coach who only did rugby.You then get provincial teams who do not recruit in the townships.These are the very provincial teams that vote people like Oregin Hoskins as SARU president cause he does not address transformation vigorously.Just as Gerald Majola is failing.As you go higher up the ranks of rugby to the Springboks,we see why Pieter De Villiers is struggling to get players.</p>
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		<title>By: ELLE</title>
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		<dc:creator>ELLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s time our white brothers and sisters stopped playing the victim ......we still have bread and butter issues post 94 and you are still priviledged .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s time our white brothers and sisters stopped playing the victim &#8230;&#8230;we still have bread and butter issues post 94 and you are still priviledged .</p>
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		<title>By: Suntosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the engaging debate everybody. Lots to think about. And yes Andile, I&#039;ll gladly be your copy editor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the engaging debate everybody. Lots to think about. And yes Andile, I&#8217;ll gladly be your copy editor!</p>
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		<title>By: John Everyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Everyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Brent: Are you trying to say that blacks enslaved whites at some point in history?&quot; 

I find this an interesting question and the answer depends on how you define &quot;white&quot; and of course &quot;black&quot;. If we entertain the notion that &quot;black&quot; encompasses all those people that are not &quot;white&quot; this could create some problems. Let us look at some examples from history shall we. 

For example are the Iranians &quot;black&quot;? During the Classical period, slaves from Thrace, mainland Greece and other parts of the Balkans (areas we would assume are &quot;white&quot;) were sold as slaves in Persia. However, this form of slavery lacked a racial element so can it be called &quot;racism&quot;? Consider the Roman Empire in which a small number of slaves could be classified as &quot;black&quot;. However, the vast majority of slaves came from regions of Europe (France, Germany Hungry etc.) and looked like people we would associate with &quot;white-ness&quot;. Was the Empire racist? The corsairs -those fearsome Muslim pirates of old -provided further problems. Corsairs operating out of North Africa regularly raided the coastal shores of Britain, Spain and France for slaves in the High Middle Ages. However, the corsairs and their masters also brought many slaves from the West African nations of the period (and some of the corsairs were themselves of Western African descent -often freed slaves). Were their activities racist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brent: Are you trying to say that blacks enslaved whites at some point in history?&#8221; </p>
<p>I find this an interesting question and the answer depends on how you define &#8220;white&#8221; and of course &#8220;black&#8221;. If we entertain the notion that &#8220;black&#8221; encompasses all those people that are not &#8220;white&#8221; this could create some problems. Let us look at some examples from history shall we. </p>
<p>For example are the Iranians &#8220;black&#8221;? During the Classical period, slaves from Thrace, mainland Greece and other parts of the Balkans (areas we would assume are &#8220;white&#8221;) were sold as slaves in Persia. However, this form of slavery lacked a racial element so can it be called &#8220;racism&#8221;? Consider the Roman Empire in which a small number of slaves could be classified as &#8220;black&#8221;. However, the vast majority of slaves came from regions of Europe (France, Germany Hungry etc.) and looked like people we would associate with &#8220;white-ness&#8221;. Was the Empire racist? The corsairs -those fearsome Muslim pirates of old -provided further problems. Corsairs operating out of North Africa regularly raided the coastal shores of Britain, Spain and France for slaves in the High Middle Ages. However, the corsairs and their masters also brought many slaves from the West African nations of the period (and some of the corsairs were themselves of Western African descent -often freed slaves). Were their activities racist?</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blacks cannot be racist&quot;

&quot;Blacks cannot be intelligent&quot;

Both of these statements are racist, as they prescribe limitations to a specific racial group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blacks cannot be racist&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Blacks cannot be intelligent&#8221;</p>
<p>Both of these statements are racist, as they prescribe limitations to a specific racial group.</p>
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		<title>By: frodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>frodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the author(ANDILE) should of rather said that we
must ALL begin to change ourselves first positively rather  than flap our lips negatively.
Then we can begin to change then majority by
education before liberation RATHER than liberation
before education speak...
I  can only guess the author&#039;s motivation is to 
make a quick buck from the majority...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the author(ANDILE) should of rather said that we<br />
must ALL begin to change ourselves first positively rather  than flap our lips negatively.<br />
Then we can begin to change then majority by<br />
education before liberation RATHER than liberation<br />
before education speak&#8230;<br />
I  can only guess the author&#8217;s motivation is to<br />
make a quick buck from the majority&#8230;?</p>
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