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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mgeve

The ancestor of all humans came from Africa - but he/she was not black. This was the ancestor of all the 5 different skull/skin tyoes( Caucasan, Negroid, Asiatic, Capoid and Austroloid)

They have found a cave with human artifacts going back over 100,000 years here is SA, including a human hair - but it is not black, or white, or Khoisan - but most likely the ancestor of all of them.

And most definately the coloureds are Khoisan, as well as descendents of Dutch slaves from Indonesia. Recent DNA tests have proved that the coloureds of the Karroo are almost pure Khoisan - which proves the whites did not wipe them out. The black settlers did in the north, which is why there are none there.</description>
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<p>The ancestor of all humans came from Africa &#8211; but he/she was not black. This was the ancestor of all the 5 different skull/skin tyoes( Caucasan, Negroid, Asiatic, Capoid and Austroloid)</p>
<p>They have found a cave with human artifacts going back over 100,000 years here is SA, including a human hair &#8211; but it is not black, or white, or Khoisan &#8211; but most likely the ancestor of all of them.</p>
<p>And most definately the coloureds are Khoisan, as well as descendents of Dutch slaves from Indonesia. Recent DNA tests have proved that the coloureds of the Karroo are almost pure Khoisan &#8211; which proves the whites did not wipe them out. The black settlers did in the north, which is why there are none there.</p>
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		<title>By: mgeve</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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The visciousnes of the colonial can be seen with respect to social service in the case ofeconomic activities which made huge profits, this, notably in the mining industry(read &quot;the last Empire: De Beers, Diamonds and the World&quot;. According to the Tubercolosis Commission of 1912 reported that &quot;Scarcely a single family exists in which at least one member is not suffering or dying from tuberculosis. Hospital services are so inadequate that incurable tuberculosis and other cases are simply sent home to die- and spread the infection. In some areas, a single doctor has to attend to the needs of 40,000(forty thousands!!) people. The natives must pay for medical treatment. There is no provision for pauper patients. About 65% of the native children die before reaching two years...&quot; This is 1912 South Africa when the basis of Gold and Diamond Empire was already laid. The Arusha Declaration neatly surmised this truth about Africathat, &quot;
we have been oppressed a great deal, we have been exploited a great deal, and we hTown imported African Agricultural produce, were formerly involved in carrying out slavery. Towns like New England in USA; Lloyds, the great insurance underwriting and banking house(Their original capital came from slavery)Barclays Bank had its beginnings with slavery; Worms et Compagnie used capital it made from slavery. Unilever exploited African labor to make its bazzillions. I think the British Tribe and the Boer tribe are proud youintimate Google and Holy wood as your historical reference!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The visciousnes of the colonial can be seen with respect to social service in the case ofeconomic activities which made huge profits, this, notably in the mining industry(read &#8220;the last Empire: De Beers, Diamonds and the World&#8221;. According to the Tubercolosis Commission of 1912 reported that &#8220;Scarcely a single family exists in which at least one member is not suffering or dying from tuberculosis. Hospital services are so inadequate that incurable tuberculosis and other cases are simply sent home to die- and spread the infection. In some areas, a single doctor has to attend to the needs of 40,000(forty thousands!!) people. The natives must pay for medical treatment. There is no provision for pauper patients. About 65% of the native children die before reaching two years&#8230;&#8221; This is 1912 South Africa when the basis of Gold and Diamond Empire was already laid. The Arusha Declaration neatly surmised this truth about Africathat, &#8221;<br />
we have been oppressed a great deal, we have been exploited a great deal, and we hTown imported African Agricultural produce, were formerly involved in carrying out slavery. Towns like New England in USA; Lloyds, the great insurance underwriting and banking house(Their original capital came from slavery)Barclays Bank had its beginnings with slavery; Worms et Compagnie used capital it made from slavery. Unilever exploited African labor to make its bazzillions. I think the British Tribe and the Boer tribe are proud youintimate Google and Holy wood as your historical reference!?</p>
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		<title>By: mgeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>mgeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ngamla!!(Beddy)
Africans entered Europe during the Aurignacian phase of that continent, they initiated burial rituals in which the dead were sprinkled or painted with red ochre. Brunson cites Societ Union  historians to show that the Africans carried this habit even into the East. Pro. Leaky makes it pssible to pose the question of the peopling of Egypt, going back as 150,000 years ago. You need to study Physical Anthropology, which providesreliable and definitive truths. The Egyptians had one term to designate themselves kmt=The Africans. The word is the etymological of the  root Kamit which has proliferated in modern anthropological literature. In the Egyptian language, a word assembly is formed from an adjective or a noun by putting it in the feminine singular==km=Black The terms is a collective noun which thus described the whole people of Pharaonic Egypt as a black/African people.Need I say more , &#039;tweedle-dum&quot;? Talking about the myth that Europeans made Africans better, let&#039;s look at the historical facts! The limited services within Aafrica were destributed in a manner that reflected athe pattern of domination and exploitation The settler class was pining for the standards of the bourgeoisie or professional classes of the Metropoles.They were determined to have these luxuries in Africa, because so many of them came from poverty in /europe, and could not hope to have these services in their homelands Colonies like Algeria, KenY and South Africa, it is well known, wites created an infrastructure to affrod     .  , ,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ngamla!!(Beddy)<br />
Africans entered Europe during the Aurignacian phase of that continent, they initiated burial rituals in which the dead were sprinkled or painted with red ochre. Brunson cites Societ Union  historians to show that the Africans carried this habit even into the East. Pro. Leaky makes it pssible to pose the question of the peopling of Egypt, going back as 150,000 years ago. You need to study Physical Anthropology, which providesreliable and definitive truths. The Egyptians had one term to designate themselves kmt=The Africans. The word is the etymological of the  root Kamit which has proliferated in modern anthropological literature. In the Egyptian language, a word assembly is formed from an adjective or a noun by putting it in the feminine singular==km=Black The terms is a collective noun which thus described the whole people of Pharaonic Egypt as a black/African people.Need I say more , &#8216;tweedle-dum&#8221;? Talking about the myth that Europeans made Africans better, let&#8217;s look at the historical facts! The limited services within Aafrica were destributed in a manner that reflected athe pattern of domination and exploitation The settler class was pining for the standards of the bourgeoisie or professional classes of the Metropoles.They were determined to have these luxuries in Africa, because so many of them came from poverty in /europe, and could not hope to have these services in their homelands Colonies like Algeria, KenY and South Africa, it is well known, wites created an infrastructure to affrod     .  , ,,</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mgeve

Why don&#039;t you just Google Cleopatra and check it out for yourself?</description>
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<p>Why don&#8217;t you just Google Cleopatra and check it out for yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mgeve

I will agree that superior firepower conquered you, not race, but that it what every conquest in history is about.

BUT Chaka was ALSO superior and conquering and wiping out all the other tribes.

And Cleopatra and all her dynastry were Greek, descended from the same line as Alexander the Great. Before her dynasty the dynasties were brown not black. Only with the Arab Slave Trade were blacks disbursed over North Africa from the Congo.

Blacks are ONLY indigenous to the Niger Congo Delta.</description>
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<p>I will agree that superior firepower conquered you, not race, but that it what every conquest in history is about.</p>
<p>BUT Chaka was ALSO superior and conquering and wiping out all the other tribes.</p>
<p>And Cleopatra and all her dynastry were Greek, descended from the same line as Alexander the Great. Before her dynasty the dynasties were brown not black. Only with the Arab Slave Trade were blacks disbursed over North Africa from the Congo.</p>
<p>Blacks are ONLY indigenous to the Niger Congo Delta.</p>
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		<title>By: mgeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>mgeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heitha Lekgowa(Cont.)
Cleopatra was not white, and I see you watch too much Hollywood fils. Hei wena, reading is fundamental, and let me illustrate my point. For the mere fact you have bludgeoned history.Africans are human and intelligent. You make me proud to realize that I spent all my life studying to be better than you. My point, all what you are saying above is garbage. African history, African people and the African Continent, has had  for us to know and re-learn our history. You should go to the Oppenheimer Library in Jozi and start reading all those books there on African history. You think we are what you say we are. No, we are what we are telling you we are.Whites came from Europe in !492(Vasco da Gama and his thugs murdered the khoi in an uprovoked encounter) The Dutch Settlers-Jan Van riebeck and his crew, enslaved the khoi and abused them, took their life stock and eventually Trekked from the Cape to start Wars with the Xhosas and Zulus and so forth) If white people okay the idea that can live with us under the African Umbrella(Sobukwe), that to me is fine. But if you continue to prattle about discounted and debunked history, then I will give a free lesson on african History and African people in South Africa and in the Diaspora. I hope you are aware that race did not conquer us, it was overwhelming power that did, READ!. Cont.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heitha Lekgowa(Cont.)<br />
Cleopatra was not white, and I see you watch too much Hollywood fils. Hei wena, reading is fundamental, and let me illustrate my point. For the mere fact you have bludgeoned history.Africans are human and intelligent. You make me proud to realize that I spent all my life studying to be better than you. My point, all what you are saying above is garbage. African history, African people and the African Continent, has had  for us to know and re-learn our history. You should go to the Oppenheimer Library in Jozi and start reading all those books there on African history. You think we are what you say we are. No, we are what we are telling you we are.Whites came from Europe in !492(Vasco da Gama and his thugs murdered the khoi in an uprovoked encounter) The Dutch Settlers-Jan Van riebeck and his crew, enslaved the khoi and abused them, took their life stock and eventually Trekked from the Cape to start Wars with the Xhosas and Zulus and so forth) If white people okay the idea that can live with us under the African Umbrella(Sobukwe), that to me is fine. But if you continue to prattle about discounted and debunked history, then I will give a free lesson on african History and African people in South Africa and in the Diaspora. I hope you are aware that race did not conquer us, it was overwhelming power that did, READ!. Cont.</p>
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		<title>By: mgeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>mgeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hola-Hola Ngamla!
You are an ignoramus wanna be historian who should be scrapped of the net. Oh yeah, I know that the earth was flat, as well. You should be ashamed of yourself for having been miseducated and badly dragged-up. If it was during the Apartheid era you were having these bellicose ideas, i&#039;d understand. You need to go back to you your Primary and high school alma matter and get a refund for your miseducation, sucker! Let me put it this way, cite me the source where it is written that AFricans not black, (tweedle dee tweedle dum), who massacred the Khoi, who by the way never lived North of  South Africa.. If all white folk talk like you, that motley crew can leave, Mzantsi is an African Country, and the coloured are because whites, who had no women, but were sailors, slept with the Khoi, San and Africans, thus begat the Colored. Africa is the cradle of  humanity and has always been been the abode of Africans. Egyptians were African and you know that. You surely must hate African Americans, no surprise there, because it has never occurred to you that there are Africans, in Africa, under your nose, who are more knowledgeable and smarter that your sad racist rants. I respect people of any race who know other people, correctly and respect it. As for you. you need to go back to kindergarten and re-learn History and respect of other children and people. Cont.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola-Hola Ngamla!<br />
You are an ignoramus wanna be historian who should be scrapped of the net. Oh yeah, I know that the earth was flat, as well. You should be ashamed of yourself for having been miseducated and badly dragged-up. If it was during the Apartheid era you were having these bellicose ideas, i&#8217;d understand. You need to go back to you your Primary and high school alma matter and get a refund for your miseducation, sucker! Let me put it this way, cite me the source where it is written that AFricans not black, (tweedle dee tweedle dum), who massacred the Khoi, who by the way never lived North of  South Africa.. If all white folk talk like you, that motley crew can leave, Mzantsi is an African Country, and the coloured are because whites, who had no women, but were sailors, slept with the Khoi, San and Africans, thus begat the Colored. Africa is the cradle of  humanity and has always been been the abode of Africans. Egyptians were African and you know that. You surely must hate African Americans, no surprise there, because it has never occurred to you that there are Africans, in Africa, under your nose, who are more knowledgeable and smarter that your sad racist rants. I respect people of any race who know other people, correctly and respect it. As for you. you need to go back to kindergarten and re-learn History and respect of other children and people. Cont.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mgeve

It was the black settlers who wiped out the Khoisan in the northern part of SA. And the black settlers arrived only about 100 years before the white settlers.

Maybe the whites should go back to Europe, the blacks to the Congo, and the coloureds be given back their country?

Africa was a brown not a black continent like American Black Power mythology presents it.

And the Egyptians were not black either - Cleopatra, the African Queen, was Greek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mgeve</p>
<p>It was the black settlers who wiped out the Khoisan in the northern part of SA. And the black settlers arrived only about 100 years before the white settlers.</p>
<p>Maybe the whites should go back to Europe, the blacks to the Congo, and the coloureds be given back their country?</p>
<p>Africa was a brown not a black continent like American Black Power mythology presents it.</p>
<p>And the Egyptians were not black either &#8211; Cleopatra, the African Queen, was Greek.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mgeve

I don&#039;t have to read fake history by western black power writers. I have family records. My ancestors were with the tribes as missionaries even before the Afrikaner trekked in the Great Trek.

Plus another of my ancestor started the first school for the children of slaves in Cape Town.

The SA whites were probably the only colonialists that did NOT wipe out the indigenous population. The Khoisan weer protected by law from being enslaved or even imprisoned, and farmers had to shoot game to feed any Khoisan on their land. Where do you think the coloureds came from?

And none of the black tribes were wiped out. The missionaries were with them before the trekkers. Every time the trekkers moved in on an area the missionaries complained to the Brits and a tribal area was established where the boers could NOT buy land and the chiefs could NOT sell! These areas include Swaziland, Lesotho and Botswana.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t have to read fake history by western black power writers. I have family records. My ancestors were with the tribes as missionaries even before the Afrikaner trekked in the Great Trek.</p>
<p>Plus another of my ancestor started the first school for the children of slaves in Cape Town.</p>
<p>The SA whites were probably the only colonialists that did NOT wipe out the indigenous population. The Khoisan weer protected by law from being enslaved or even imprisoned, and farmers had to shoot game to feed any Khoisan on their land. Where do you think the coloureds came from?</p>
<p>And none of the black tribes were wiped out. The missionaries were with them before the trekkers. Every time the trekkers moved in on an area the missionaries complained to the Brits and a tribal area was established where the boers could NOT buy land and the chiefs could NOT sell! These areas include Swaziland, Lesotho and Botswana.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benzol

I have just finished reading Pallo Jordan&#039;s mother&#039;s autobiography.

American blacks and whites are virulantly racist. The Jordan&#039;s had bombs thrown at their home, swaztikas burned, and Pallo was told to leave voluntarirly or be deported, a few weeks later his room mate was shot dead (his mother thinks could have been mistaken for him).

And American blacks trashed the campus because they wanted a course of &quot;African Studies&quot;. No-one knew what &quot;African Studies&quot; was supposed to mean. That is about the time the Kwanza myth started.

I have never understood American racism - why be afraid of a 10% minority?

The ANC has used American advisors since 1993. I think they brought this black racism back with them from exile.</description>
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<p>I have just finished reading Pallo Jordan&#8217;s mother&#8217;s autobiography.</p>
<p>American blacks and whites are virulantly racist. The Jordan&#8217;s had bombs thrown at their home, swaztikas burned, and Pallo was told to leave voluntarirly or be deported, a few weeks later his room mate was shot dead (his mother thinks could have been mistaken for him).</p>
<p>And American blacks trashed the campus because they wanted a course of &#8220;African Studies&#8221;. No-one knew what &#8220;African Studies&#8221; was supposed to mean. That is about the time the Kwanza myth started.</p>
<p>I have never understood American racism &#8211; why be afraid of a 10% minority?</p>
<p>The ANC has used American advisors since 1993. I think they brought this black racism back with them from exile.</p>
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