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	<title>Comments on: Meet Al Caphone, capo de tutti capi of SA&#8217;s telecommunications cartel</title>
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		<title>By: Theodore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yebo gogo! We truly are a nation of suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yebo gogo! We truly are a nation of suckers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: Avira is free and better than most paid antivirus programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: Avira is free and better than most paid antivirus programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunatly your incoherent rant does little to actually disect and analyse the current status of South African telecoms and the reasons we&#039;re in the situation we are.

You claim South Africa have one of the most expensive broadband landscapes. While this might be true for fixed line, I would like to see your extensive analysis of international HSDPA prices compared to South Africa.

You claim that &quot;Vast swathes of the country have no effective network&quot;. Again I would like to see how you compare this to your beloved USA. Today both MTN and Vodacom cover 98% of the population with at least some form of data communication. 

What is the number for the US?

So you had a bad experience with a specific operator. By all means complain, it&#039;s your right.

But get your facts right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunatly your incoherent rant does little to actually disect and analyse the current status of South African telecoms and the reasons we&#8217;re in the situation we are.</p>
<p>You claim South Africa have one of the most expensive broadband landscapes. While this might be true for fixed line, I would like to see your extensive analysis of international HSDPA prices compared to South Africa.</p>
<p>You claim that &#8220;Vast swathes of the country have no effective network&#8221;. Again I would like to see how you compare this to your beloved USA. Today both MTN and Vodacom cover 98% of the population with at least some form of data communication. </p>
<p>What is the number for the US?</p>
<p>So you had a bad experience with a specific operator. By all means complain, it&#8217;s your right.</p>
<p>But get your facts right.</p>
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		<title>By: zonki</title>
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		<dc:creator>zonki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And who owns SEACOM?  Andile Ncaba&#039;s consortium...bwahahaahahaahaaaahaaaaa you couldn&#039;t make this horror story up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And who owns SEACOM?  Andile Ncaba&#8217;s consortium&#8230;bwahahaahahaahaaaahaaaaa you couldn&#8217;t make this horror story up.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don`t know if anyone has noticed, but check out the ads just underneath the article? Vodacom upgrade? Vodacom special deals? Detailed billing? they are so entrenced in our lives, we don`t even realize they even sponsor the critics.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don`t know if anyone has noticed, but check out the ads just underneath the article? Vodacom upgrade? Vodacom special deals? Detailed billing? they are so entrenced in our lives, we don`t even realize they even sponsor the critics&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bandwidth is a small part of an ISP&#039;c cost base.  So, even if bandwidth costs drop by 75%, we are not going to see a similar drop in overall price to the end user.

What we will realistically see is something along the lines of Beacon Sweets offering 10% more chocolate rather than a 10% reduction in price.  

Over time we will see bandwidth caps and speeds increase for the same price.  Telkom started that this month with 3Gb to 5Gb for the same price. Strange that MWeb, who buy bandwidth from Telkom haven&#039;t followed suit.

Until we fix up the situation where the DoC, ICASA and the Competition Commission shout &quot;Your Ball&quot; and pass issues between them without resolution the basic situation of horribly overpriced services will remain.

In the other suggestion that we all abstain from using the service for five days.  No Chance.  If I had no cellphone or Internet access for 5 days my business would go down the toilet.

Cheers,
Iain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bandwidth is a small part of an ISP&#8217;c cost base.  So, even if bandwidth costs drop by 75%, we are not going to see a similar drop in overall price to the end user.</p>
<p>What we will realistically see is something along the lines of Beacon Sweets offering 10% more chocolate rather than a 10% reduction in price.  </p>
<p>Over time we will see bandwidth caps and speeds increase for the same price.  Telkom started that this month with 3Gb to 5Gb for the same price. Strange that MWeb, who buy bandwidth from Telkom haven&#8217;t followed suit.</p>
<p>Until we fix up the situation where the DoC, ICASA and the Competition Commission shout &#8220;Your Ball&#8221; and pass issues between them without resolution the basic situation of horribly overpriced services will remain.</p>
<p>In the other suggestion that we all abstain from using the service for five days.  No Chance.  If I had no cellphone or Internet access for 5 days my business would go down the toilet.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Iain</p>
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		<title>By: Llewellyn Kriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Llewellyn Kriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great feedback and excellent comments everyone. I no longer feel as isolated and lonely as Al made me feel. An interesting addendum: No sooner was this blog published than I lost all dial-up to Avoidacom - nothing, zip, niks, nada. Now, I&#039;m not saying it was a retaliation. Vodacom would never do that now would they?!

But it took Al five days to identify that some part (probably the company brain cell) had overshot its data limit and can only be replaced this coming week sometime. Wow, stunning service levels &amp; technology, hey!

Now I have to drive back &amp; forth to Clearwater, hunker down at the agonising Mugg&amp;Bean, pay exorbitant prices for their so-so &quot;coffee&quot; not to mention parking fees and the rest of the inconvenience - just to connect.

This is called client service. I call it crap and it gets me very irritated because it is criminal!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great feedback and excellent comments everyone. I no longer feel as isolated and lonely as Al made me feel. An interesting addendum: No sooner was this blog published than I lost all dial-up to Avoidacom &#8211; nothing, zip, niks, nada. Now, I&#8217;m not saying it was a retaliation. Vodacom would never do that now would they?!</p>
<p>But it took Al five days to identify that some part (probably the company brain cell) had overshot its data limit and can only be replaced this coming week sometime. Wow, stunning service levels &amp; technology, hey!</p>
<p>Now I have to drive back &amp; forth to Clearwater, hunker down at the agonising Mugg&amp;Bean, pay exorbitant prices for their so-so &#8220;coffee&#8221; not to mention parking fees and the rest of the inconvenience &#8211; just to connect.</p>
<p>This is called client service. I call it crap and it gets me very irritated because it is criminal!!</p>
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		<title>By: Philipp Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philipp Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! The problem is that no matter how poorly Vodacom treats its customers there are no real alternatives. I switched from MTN to Vodacom last year and my network coverage and call quality have improved. Customer services at MTN was just as bad. Telkom customer service has indeed picked up significantly (they even call you back, gosh!) but it comes at the cost of their insanely overpriced service offerings. 

It&#039;s easy to see who is responsible, but hard to make them change. The blame rests squarely with ICASA and the Government. Like it or not, our society is organised in a way that encourages (=requires?) corporations to maximise profits - the regulators are there to keep them in check and ensure a balance between corporate and public interests. ICASA has failed the South African people over and over again. Senegal is an example where the Government has decided to provide broad, affordable coverage and as a result, Internet Cafe&#039;s in Dakar offer faster connection speeds at lower costs than I can get at my home in SA. 

I am hoping that small wireless providers will by-pass the mess of the past, procure their bandwidth from SEACOM, and pass the savings on to their customers directly. But, as a disappointed previous customer of iBust, I am not holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! The problem is that no matter how poorly Vodacom treats its customers there are no real alternatives. I switched from MTN to Vodacom last year and my network coverage and call quality have improved. Customer services at MTN was just as bad. Telkom customer service has indeed picked up significantly (they even call you back, gosh!) but it comes at the cost of their insanely overpriced service offerings. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to see who is responsible, but hard to make them change. The blame rests squarely with ICASA and the Government. Like it or not, our society is organised in a way that encourages (=requires?) corporations to maximise profits &#8211; the regulators are there to keep them in check and ensure a balance between corporate and public interests. ICASA has failed the South African people over and over again. Senegal is an example where the Government has decided to provide broad, affordable coverage and as a result, Internet Cafe&#8217;s in Dakar offer faster connection speeds at lower costs than I can get at my home in SA. </p>
<p>I am hoping that small wireless providers will by-pass the mess of the past, procure their bandwidth from SEACOM, and pass the savings on to their customers directly. But, as a disappointed previous customer of iBust, I am not holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: ZB</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Vodacom 3G/HSDPA internet contract of 500MB for R250.00 or so per month. There is no carry over to the next month even if i don&#039;t use it all! Nobody at Vodacom seems to know why that should be sö.

You have to stand still to get a good signal here in MP. Told Vodacom abt it and they are yet to improve reception. These speeds upwards of 1,3MBts/sec that should come with an HSDPA modem are a fairytale here.

MTN is no betá though, we had no coverage for 2days in Secunda, Middleburg &amp; parts of Pretoria this week without explanation. Even their internet bundle contract costs the same as Vodacom, i wonder why coz their reception is even poorer.

These communication cartel&#039;s prices are like cholesterol on the veins of S.A. information access &amp; Communication

As to how much of our salaries we spend on Telkom, MTN &amp; Vodacom product costs is criminal, whilst the quality of their service is quite primitive still - it just shows they are throttling everybody-up for their bottom-line stakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Vodacom 3G/HSDPA internet contract of 500MB for R250.00 or so per month. There is no carry over to the next month even if i don&#8217;t use it all! Nobody at Vodacom seems to know why that should be sö.</p>
<p>You have to stand still to get a good signal here in MP. Told Vodacom abt it and they are yet to improve reception. These speeds upwards of 1,3MBts/sec that should come with an HSDPA modem are a fairytale here.</p>
<p>MTN is no betá though, we had no coverage for 2days in Secunda, Middleburg &amp; parts of Pretoria this week without explanation. Even their internet bundle contract costs the same as Vodacom, i wonder why coz their reception is even poorer.</p>
<p>These communication cartel&#8217;s prices are like cholesterol on the veins of S.A. information access &amp; Communication</p>
<p>As to how much of our salaries we spend on Telkom, MTN &amp; Vodacom product costs is criminal, whilst the quality of their service is quite primitive still &#8211; it just shows they are throttling everybody-up for their bottom-line stakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mervyn Kahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mervyn Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If every one would just stand together and not use their cell phones for 5 days demanding lower prices and less stringent contracts, the whole system would crumble and prices would tumble. 
It can easily happen --- get the ball rolling and see the results.
I can guarantee that the problem would be resolved in less than 5 days.
The same should be done with the banks. Stop using the ATM&#039;S for 1 week and Bingo you will see results and the fees will vanish.
Today we have the tools, face book,etc are an excellent medium for starting a people revolution against the giants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If every one would just stand together and not use their cell phones for 5 days demanding lower prices and less stringent contracts, the whole system would crumble and prices would tumble.<br />
It can easily happen &#8212; get the ball rolling and see the results.<br />
I can guarantee that the problem would be resolved in less than 5 days.<br />
The same should be done with the banks. Stop using the ATM&#8217;S for 1 week and Bingo you will see results and the fees will vanish.<br />
Today we have the tools, face book,etc are an excellent medium for starting a people revolution against the giants.</p>
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