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	<title>Comments on: Working on that pig&#8217;s ear, baby</title>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-37535</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose I work for the New York Times. And I write a blog which in effect says that at NYT they are just a bunch of benighted idiots who dont even know what they are doing; and I am a brilliant star among fading morons. The fact is anywhere in the world, you&#039;ll get axed whatever it takes. The irony is that Kriel didnt see it coming or should we say he is in fact the moron?  The most sensible thing was to pack your bags and leave and then blog them to your heart&#039;s delight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose I work for the New York Times. And I write a blog which in effect says that at NYT they are just a bunch of benighted idiots who dont even know what they are doing; and I am a brilliant star among fading morons. The fact is anywhere in the world, you&#8217;ll get axed whatever it takes. The irony is that Kriel didnt see it coming or should we say he is in fact the moron?  The most sensible thing was to pack your bags and leave and then blog them to your heart&#8217;s delight.</p>
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		<title>By: Izz</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-33999</link>
		<dc:creator>Izz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren&#039;t you telling all your friends that you got axed for being racist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why aren&#8217;t you telling all your friends that you got axed for being racist!</p>
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		<title>By: Liansky</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-8322</link>
		<dc:creator>Liansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, according to you, who is &quot;the best&quot;??...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, according to you, who is &#8220;the best&#8221;??&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Günther</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-8313</link>
		<dc:creator>Günther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A standing ovation while I&#039;m leaping up and down for Zygote&#039;s comment.

And English is a language I didn&#039;t grow up with either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A standing ovation while I&#8217;m leaping up and down for Zygote&#8217;s comment.</p>
<p>And English is a language I didn&#8217;t grow up with either.</p>
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		<title>By: Zygote</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-7785</link>
		<dc:creator>Zygote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Anne suggests language skills are not really needed &quot;thats what subs are for&quot;. This completely misses all the points around which journalism pivots.
Language skills are key -- all down the line; from reporter to news-editor to chief sub to subs. You cant tell the story without language skills. And if you are in a situation where language skills are lacking, the obvious next move is to outhouse and inhouse train and mentor - and weed - the hopefuls to produce well-oiled, fluent, story-tellers. Otherwise we all just as well might go out, get drunk, and talk the usual BS which half the party cant understand and 50% is not interested in. 
Language skills are paramount in all narrative.
So, dear Anne, give the subs a break, willya. Subs are supposed to polish diamonds, not to launder counterfeit currency.

Peace (&amp; integrity) shall rule the world!

But you wont know it from the daily news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Anne suggests language skills are not really needed &#8220;thats what subs are for&#8221;. This completely misses all the points around which journalism pivots.<br />
Language skills are key &#8212; all down the line; from reporter to news-editor to chief sub to subs. You cant tell the story without language skills. And if you are in a situation where language skills are lacking, the obvious next move is to outhouse and inhouse train and mentor &#8211; and weed &#8211; the hopefuls to produce well-oiled, fluent, story-tellers. Otherwise we all just as well might go out, get drunk, and talk the usual BS which half the party cant understand and 50% is not interested in.<br />
Language skills are paramount in all narrative.<br />
So, dear Anne, give the subs a break, willya. Subs are supposed to polish diamonds, not to launder counterfeit currency.</p>
<p>Peace (&amp; integrity) shall rule the world!</p>
<p>But you wont know it from the daily news.</p>
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		<title>By: Work911 at The Times &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SA Blogger Down! Debate Opens</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-7395</link>
		<dc:creator>Work911 at The Times &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SA Blogger Down! Debate Opens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Kriel’s hard hitting blogpost on Thought Leader. Suspension. The in- between, half baked apology. A disciplinary hearing. First blogger fired in SA [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kriel’s hard hitting blogpost on Thought Leader. Suspension. The in- between, half baked apology. A disciplinary hearing. First blogger fired in SA [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Groogle &#187; Archive &#187; South African newspaper fires sub-editor over blogging confidential company information on opposition papers blogging portal</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-7207</link>
		<dc:creator>Groogle &#187; Archive &#187; South African newspaper fires sub-editor over blogging confidential company information on opposition papers blogging portal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more read here, here, here, here, here, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more read here, here, here, here, here, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dion Forster</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-7167</link>
		<dc:creator>Dion Forster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel your pain, I share your frustration, and I dismay at the consequences that have befallen you for speaking the truth.

In solidarity with you for a new South Africa that truly is better than the old South Africa... I don&#039;t want to settle for second best...

So, where the truth must be spoken - let it be spoken boldly!  We cannot accept hash jobs and condescend people into thinking it is good enough...

Strength!

aluta continua

Dion 

http://www.spirituality.org.za/blogger.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel your pain, I share your frustration, and I dismay at the consequences that have befallen you for speaking the truth.</p>
<p>In solidarity with you for a new South Africa that truly is better than the old South Africa&#8230; I don&#8217;t want to settle for second best&#8230;</p>
<p>So, where the truth must be spoken &#8211; let it be spoken boldly!  We cannot accept hash jobs and condescend people into thinking it is good enough&#8230;</p>
<p>Strength!</p>
<p>aluta continua</p>
<p>Dion </p>
<p><a href="http://www.spirituality.org.za/blogger.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.spirituality.org.za/blogger.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Congratulations to the Sowetan Bastion of Free Speech &#187; Erasibo - Erasibo</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-7153</link>
		<dc:creator>Congratulations to the Sowetan Bastion of Free Speech &#187; Erasibo - Erasibo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogging history. Well done chaps. They fired a sub-editor (Llewellyn Kriel) for blogging about the inner workings at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogging history. Well done chaps. They fired a sub-editor (Llewellyn Kriel) for blogging about the inner workings at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: youngBLOOD &#183; Double-whammy for bloggers this past week</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/llewellynkriel/2007/11/13/working-on-that-pigs-ear-baby/comment-page-1/#comment-7144</link>
		<dc:creator>youngBLOOD &#183; Double-whammy for bloggers this past week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case of a former employee, who worked for the same holding company as me, that was dismissed for  a post he made on Thought Leader where he lambastes the holding company and discloses sensitive information. Vincent has published [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] case of a former employee, who worked for the same holding company as me, that was dismissed for  a post he made on Thought Leader where he lambastes the holding company and discloses sensitive information. Vincent has published [...]</p>
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