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	<title>Comments on: The unbearable lightness of being Bakkies Botha</title>
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		<title>By: Vera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t actually need to be of a certain race to be human and humanity doesn&#039;t have to be divisive because of different races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t actually need to be of a certain race to be human and humanity doesn&#8217;t have to be divisive because of different races.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Alvarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Alvarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I tried &amp; failed Dave, so I&#039;ll just have to keep changing myself and remain baffled by your postings which  only criticise, and surely cannot help change our beloved land! 

I watched the motion of no confidence in JZ in parliament today, which was overturned resulting in a vote of confidence, due to the majority vote. Fact remains most of the speeches were poor, and because the majority gets their way, does not mean the majority is right, only rather that they are the majority! Because you abuse everyone here, does not mean you are right Dave! I intentionally gave you a taste of your own medicine in my last posting, and you responded exactly as expected, but deep down I was hoping............praying in fact, that you had it in you to take up the challenge to find solutions for our beautiful country, rather than slagging its citizens with whom you don&#039;t agree!

History will judge us Dave, all of us, you, me and the government!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I tried &amp; failed Dave, so I&#8217;ll just have to keep changing myself and remain baffled by your postings which  only criticise, and surely cannot help change our beloved land! </p>
<p>I watched the motion of no confidence in JZ in parliament today, which was overturned resulting in a vote of confidence, due to the majority vote. Fact remains most of the speeches were poor, and because the majority gets their way, does not mean the majority is right, only rather that they are the majority! Because you abuse everyone here, does not mean you are right Dave! I intentionally gave you a taste of your own medicine in my last posting, and you responded exactly as expected, but deep down I was hoping&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;praying in fact, that you had it in you to take up the challenge to find solutions for our beautiful country, rather than slagging its citizens with whom you don&#8217;t agree!</p>
<p>History will judge us Dave, all of us, you, me and the government!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you should say that Paul, here is a sampling of YOUR infantile &quot;debating skills&quot;
&quot;Some oke Joe from Canada reckons you’re an irrelevant doos! &quot;
&quot;Dave you are beyond a joke! &quot;
&quot;... like a political clown you turn everything into a political debate!&quot;
&quot;Your comments are inconsequential because you just criticise...&quot;
Listen Paul, if I was interested in high school debates, I&#039;d become a teacher in a high school...possibly like you ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you should say that Paul, here is a sampling of YOUR infantile &#8220;debating skills&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Some oke Joe from Canada reckons you’re an irrelevant doos! &#8221;<br />
&#8220;Dave you are beyond a joke! &#8221;<br />
&#8220;&#8230; like a political clown you turn everything into a political debate!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Your comments are inconsequential because you just criticise&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Listen Paul, if I was interested in high school debates, I&#8217;d become a teacher in a high school&#8230;possibly like you <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Alvarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Alvarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I don&#039;t know how you sleep at night but I trust you sleep well tonight!

Allow me to try another track with you, because to date we&#039;ve just rubbed each other up the wrong way. May I challenge you to approaching this forum as a high school debate, as they are actually very enlightening and amazingly accurate, and not as a parliamentary debate, all of which I&#039;ve viewed have been infantile and childish? This is not opinion, but rather what I have watched and experienced from all participating political parties, so I&#039;m bashing them all!

I know you&#039;re intelligent Dave but I struggle to understand how you think because you generally just abuse everyone, so can we agree to following a structured approach as in a debating society, keeping to the topic, without hesitation, repitition or deviation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I don&#8217;t know how you sleep at night but I trust you sleep well tonight!</p>
<p>Allow me to try another track with you, because to date we&#8217;ve just rubbed each other up the wrong way. May I challenge you to approaching this forum as a high school debate, as they are actually very enlightening and amazingly accurate, and not as a parliamentary debate, all of which I&#8217;ve viewed have been infantile and childish? This is not opinion, but rather what I have watched and experienced from all participating political parties, so I&#8217;m bashing them all!</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re intelligent Dave but I struggle to understand how you think because you generally just abuse everyone, so can we agree to following a structured approach as in a debating society, keeping to the topic, without hesitation, repitition or deviation?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RubinB
As I said to you before, its shameful to see someone in this day and age trying to determine someone’s race race rather than respecting anonymity on this forum. Stop making a fool of yourself with your racist comments, your indoctrination blurs your thinking. There are reasons why this forum is structured so that people, like you, can use pseudonyms.

Rather than pathetically groveling for attention, try addressing the issues for a change and make a contribution to the discussion.

@radiodave 
Are you just being silly or are you a teenager using your parents computer? We can recreate Zim right here in SA if we continue to ignore the racial economic disparity that resulted from centuries of discrimination and brutal opression. Time is ticking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RubinB<br />
As I said to you before, its shameful to see someone in this day and age trying to determine someone’s race race rather than respecting anonymity on this forum. Stop making a fool of yourself with your racist comments, your indoctrination blurs your thinking. There are reasons why this forum is structured so that people, like you, can use pseudonyms.</p>
<p>Rather than pathetically groveling for attention, try addressing the issues for a change and make a contribution to the discussion.</p>
<p>@radiodave<br />
Are you just being silly or are you a teenager using your parents computer? We can recreate Zim right here in SA if we continue to ignore the racial economic disparity that resulted from centuries of discrimination and brutal opression. Time is ticking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene Mascarenhas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlene Mascarenhas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You inspire with words, make one believe again when one does not.    Beautifully well written! So uplifting.  

You could be writing about our fat cats in Kenya who pit us normally peaceful folk, one against another for no reason at all!  

Tutajenga pamoja.

Please write and do not stop.  People are listening/reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You inspire with words, make one believe again when one does not.    Beautifully well written! So uplifting.  </p>
<p>You could be writing about our fat cats in Kenya who pit us normally peaceful folk, one against another for no reason at all!  </p>
<p>Tutajenga pamoja.</p>
<p>Please write and do not stop.  People are listening/reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Konrad Lotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konrad Lotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy mackerel Dave Harris... What planet are you from? Your &quot;struggle ideas&quot; became obsolete twenty years ago. Let me guess, you are Julius Malema in disguise and the fact that you can&#039;t address the facts or the truth makes you resort to the obsolete &quot;black and white racial style&quot; of politics.

It IS about humans or people not about skin colour. We have a serious problem in this country BECAUSE of rhetoric with no real substance or solutions. Just an empty can rattling more than the filled ones next to you. The comments in this piece are accurate. We don&#039;t need hot air or noise in this country, we need people who just get on with their job...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy mackerel Dave Harris&#8230; What planet are you from? Your &#8220;struggle ideas&#8221; became obsolete twenty years ago. Let me guess, you are Julius Malema in disguise and the fact that you can&#8217;t address the facts or the truth makes you resort to the obsolete &#8220;black and white racial style&#8221; of politics.</p>
<p>It IS about humans or people not about skin colour. We have a serious problem in this country BECAUSE of rhetoric with no real substance or solutions. Just an empty can rattling more than the filled ones next to you. The comments in this piece are accurate. We don&#8217;t need hot air or noise in this country, we need people who just get on with their job&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Koos Kombuis you are a superhero in green black and gold boxer shorts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Koos Kombuis you are a superhero in green black and gold boxer shorts.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Briljant!!!!   Dankie Koos!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Briljant!!!!   Dankie Koos!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to hear from you Koos. I think alot of a certain group of South Africans live in the hope that finally uplifts your description of what things are like; that the people will take a firm grip, and yank a new party into power and our political evolution will get to the next level. What if that doesn&#039;t happen though. Crowds are cheering Malema at the University of Jhb, and singing along to his unfortunate song. President Zuma has alot of support. Very importantly it will be seen as unpatriotic and against the revolution to vote against the ANC for a long time to come. Robert Mugabe himself has alot of support and didn&#039;t have to do very much rigging relatively to win a fake election. 

This I think is el numero uno problemo. At this stage the most likely scenario is that there is very little reason why South Africa won&#039;t develop in the same way as the rest of Africa. The injustices of the past have trapped the people of the South in the same way as everyone else. Trapped into being victims of this colossal disruption in their history and culture, and having to find a way of acknowledging themselves to have been a defeated people, but still believing that they have it in themselves to achieve the greatest things possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear from you Koos. I think alot of a certain group of South Africans live in the hope that finally uplifts your description of what things are like; that the people will take a firm grip, and yank a new party into power and our political evolution will get to the next level. What if that doesn&#8217;t happen though. Crowds are cheering Malema at the University of Jhb, and singing along to his unfortunate song. President Zuma has alot of support. Very importantly it will be seen as unpatriotic and against the revolution to vote against the ANC for a long time to come. Robert Mugabe himself has alot of support and didn&#8217;t have to do very much rigging relatively to win a fake election. </p>
<p>This I think is el numero uno problemo. At this stage the most likely scenario is that there is very little reason why South Africa won&#8217;t develop in the same way as the rest of Africa. The injustices of the past have trapped the people of the South in the same way as everyone else. Trapped into being victims of this colossal disruption in their history and culture, and having to find a way of acknowledging themselves to have been a defeated people, but still believing that they have it in themselves to achieve the greatest things possible.</p>
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