Can you give me the exact details of which book reflects the boers as having lost at Blood River? I have heard from another source that racist history is in the new school text books,and I wish to pass the information on to Afriforum.

Look at Zim; what happened – the infrastructure started collapsing because it was not being maintained. This was because inexperience people via Affirmative Action took over government.

Towards the turn of the century their electricity grid started failing, then the sewerage systems which poisoned the water supply which caused cholera outbreaks from which they still suffer. The roads started falling into disrepair. This affected the economy so Mugabe started taking farms. Their currency went from being as strong as the US dollar to nothing in 10 years.

In SA in 2008 the electricity problems started, the Duzi that year was plagued with diarrhoea because a sewerage pipe was spilling into the river, in March 2008 the vaal dam was full of dead fish. Same problem. Hartebeespoort dam is totally rotten. The roads in SA are getting worse and worse. In October 2008 the govt passed the land grab law. Go figure..

What concerns me most is the effect of the WorldCup. These events are always run at a loss. The Greek economy is in collapse – they never recovered from the cost of the Olympics. You CANNOT recover 4 years of spend in 2 weeks. I predict a huge drop in the value of the Rand after the WorldCup.

Talking of a change in history; its now taught that the the Boere lost at Bloodriver…

I don’t agree – if you don’t learn the past, you make the same mistakes in the future.

But it is History one must learn,not myth,and school history books everywhere in the world are approved by politicians, who prefer Myths.

As Churchill said:

“The Victors Write History”

@Leon
What Beddy and I (in opposition) are trying to do is to place RSA history in the international context, and see how we can understand it to allow for new possibilities. But to bring it back to what you were saying, we have several options, if RSA is to be a success:
1. We can have a super-enriched class, but ethnically more representative of the populace, at the expense of the rest of the populace (what Khaya Dlanga is effectively suggesting, whether he intends to or not),
2. we can subjugate other African countries, and have USA-style socialism for ourselves, or
3. we can subjugate (with some luck) the industrialised countries, and have USA-style socialism perhaps for the continent.

If we do not want to have a huge portion of the human race subjugated, we have to abandon the market system – the industrialised countries had their wealth at the expense of some of their citizens, and at the expense of other countries. I show the outline of the reasoning on a blog post… Also, right now, there is a dire need to stop international fishing and rebuild soils, etc.

Interesting discussion, but off-topic. However – it is probably a symptom of the problem in SA – we keep on harping on the past. The ANC is blaming all their mistakes on ‘apartheid’.

Everyone agrees and accept -our past is BAD, bloody and not very pretty.

Similar things happened to all nations across the ages, but there is no point harping on the past.

If SA wants to move forward, we need to look at the past to learn a lesson from it, BUT we cannot keep harping on the past and looking at who to balme for what. Those people who messed up are all dead, and we are left with the mess.

The only way forward is to LOOK forward, not back.

The Khoisan did not die out – there are many short coloureds in the Cape – most are likely Khoisan, especially in the Karoo.

One coloured community in the Karoo was DNA tested and turned out to be almost 100% Khoisan.

Some coloured communities in the Karoo still say cartain words with a click – like “Kudu”.

Even with white shipwrecked survivors, like with the Khoisan, the Xhosa would kill the men and incorporate the women and children.

However there are men who survived – almost always when they were not in a group but split off and survived by appearing in a village as one sole man. Two men from the Grovenor made it that way – the others were killed.

However the Khoisan were protected by law from the second British occupation. Farmers had to kill game to feed them, and they were not imprisoned for stocktheft but placed in house arrest (which is how their customns got recorded).

Not that everyone on the frontiers obeyed those laws then, just like not everyone obeys the law now.

As for whites, it depends on where – certainly we were much less genocidal than in the Americas or Australasia, but many of the ethnic groups we were in contact with had at least bronze age technology (including several Khoisan related groups – the Dutch settlers would trade north for copper), and the Zulus worked iron. Moreover, repeated slave raids by various groups had led to a fairly strong martial tradition, which made genocidal campaigns more difficult. But there were some (mainly Khoisan related) groups that were destroyed or reduced substantially, or destroyed as a group through intermarriage, by whites. Another example: the wars between the Dutch/Afrikaans and Xhosa due to mutual cattle theft – again, the Xhosa could effectively resist…