Comments on: Should Gareth Cliff be fired?

By: owen_mshengu_sharif

owen_mshengu_sharif — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:26:18 +0000

Gareth Cliff is what he is … another blow-hard uneducated (ill-informed) “quasi” liberal youngun still to learn a helluva lot more about the history of South Africa than what his peer group will ever know … That the media finds it in their power or rash decision to grant him too much air-time is a crying shame …

owen_mshengu_sharif

By: William

William — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:36:58 +0000

Being a celebrity means always being subject to public opinion, it comes with the territory.
Her statements and actions as a minister were ungorgettable, and I believe that she therefor intrenched herself in the publics view… intentionaly or not.

As a person I can’t fault her, because I didn’t know her.
The simple fact though is that Manto will be judged by the public for her actions as a Minister, as this is the way in which she touched our lives.

Gareth’s opinion is just that… Gareth’s!
If you don’t like what he has to say, don’t listen to his show, don’t read his comments and most importantly… remember, don’t forget to pick up your beetroot and sweet potatoes on the way home today.

By: Charmaine

Charmaine — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:33:32 +0000

I don’t like mr Cliff much. I tolerate him I am white and female and I feel that he has a right to speak his mind, but his mind is dark and what he speaks is mostly garbage, disguised in beautiful words in really eloquent English. I would love for him to leave the show, hand it over to someone with morals and compassion. Who plays really cool music …
He tends to make me feel ashamed of listening to his show ..

By: Bridgeman Ndelemane

Bridgeman Ndelemane — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:09:23 +0000

well said khaya bhuti .somewhere on Obama’s book Audacity of Hope he says something like this we are all entitled to our own opinions but not to our own facts.gareth is entitled to think whatever he thinks about manto and those are his own opinions but we the fact of the matter is manto was a mother,a wife,a colleague, a grand mother,a friend and a role model to many people,even if gareth did not have respect for manto,what about the respect for her family,her friends and her colleagues.im not implying gareth is racist but the way in which he handled the matter suggests that he is.just imagine if a white public figure died today and someone made the same comments………gareth would surely discus it online and with the little respect i have for him i believe that he should be fired !

By: brandon

brandon — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:58:47 +0000

My opinion is that regardless of what somebody has done in life –as the bible states, Death is the wages of sin. Hence there is in my opinion no reason to dishonour the personage. My belief system as white south african dictates that the family of the deceased be shown compassion and i cannot imagine expressing joy at the death of anyone.

However Khaya — Cliff obviously does not share that belief system. Your entire article seeks to impose upon him YOUR belief system, and to demand an apology because he does not share YOUR belief system.

In totality your article is then intolerant, and arrogant. As you correctly stated the import of tolerance and respect becomes more apparent when ideas, cultures, belief systems and individuals differ from us.

I would not condone Mr. Cliff’s sentiments, and this is the beauty of freedom – the freedom to associate, with individuals, with cultures, with ideas.

I choose not to associate myself with Mr Cliff’s sentiments – but to enforce my sentiments upon him amounts to “a superiority syndrome” – only when I die, or when you die Khaya, will the truth, the rightfulness, the wrongfullness of our course be manifest.

At this point it is not the place of one imperfect and mortal human, to determine the value of another!

Let’s police the law – and not degenerate to the level of China where we police thoughts and ideas, or to the level of South Africa where we attack and kill foreigners -

By: Dinano Damano

Dinano Damano — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:29:43 +0000

Gareth is pro-Science therefore he insults anyone who does not seem to agree with scientific research. So if Manto dis-agreed with scientific research it was only a matter of time before Cliff attacked her.I used to be his fan,I still follow him on Twitter,and he is a fan of Stephen Hawking. This has led me to believe that if you are against some scientific theories then Cliff will mock and diss you. Personally I think Manto was and is right about ARVs! Nothing can substitude a healthy diet*lifestyle*. Cliff always makes mockery of christianity too. Whether he should be fired or not, I dont think he should be fired, this was his personal opinion expressed at his personal capacity.

By: Dee Dee

Dee Dee — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:53:15 +0000

Yaas Fella’s…. People are commiting heavy bouts of fraud, murder, rape etc… and we are infatuated with firing someone who expressed his opinion on a site created to EXPRESS Opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just leave Gareth alone…
U all are proving one thing- that ur HATERS!!!

By: lugalo musifari

lugalo musifari — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:58:23 +0000

Gareth is 100% correct!
why should those that were self-serving be promoted to martyrdom once they pass.We are all responsible for how the world sees us once we’re gone and she should have thought about that before she died.
Gareth’s views (and those of most of us) are manto’s doing.

By: X Cepting

X Cepting — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:22:28 +0000

Is there a new law that says there can be only one idiot in a lawless democracy that says and does what he likes with no regard for others? Gareth Cliff is surely entitled to belong to the idiot club if he so wish? He certainly qualifies. A club, with due respect for the dead, that Manto was president of?

Khaya, I agree with you on the morality of saying hurtful things about someone who has just died, even if they deserved it, but hey, didn’t you know, morality has gone the way of the judiciary system and the dodo in this country? If Gareth Cliff had a couple of buddies in the ANC, his comments would probably have been lauded. It is who you know and what they owe you, not who you are and what you have achieved (other than crime) which counts in this country now.

By: Womba

Womba — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:34:24 +0000

Pain to Manto’s family? Too bad. Payback for the pain — and death — she caused to thousands of other families. Karma.