Comments on: The Ministry of Magic School of Falsification http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Didas http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/comment-page-1/#comment-17206 Didas Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:20:49 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/#comment-17206 Before commenting on Constitutional Court judgements the Health Minister might want to try and read them before doing so. By saying that were it not for the TAC’s 2001 court case, pregnant mothers would already have had access to dual-therapy treatment, the Minister makes it apparent that she disrespectfully hasn’t bothered to read our highest court’s judgement handed down to her. In its order (Minister, the order is relatively short and is to be found at the end of the judgement) the Court states that: “The orders made … do not preclude government from adapting its policy in a manner consistent with the Constitution if equally appropriate or better methods become available to it”. In any event I would imagine that the TAC is overjoyed by the fact that the Minister has finally, rightly attributed all the lives saved so far through PMTCT solely to them. Before commenting on Constitutional Court judgements the Health Minister might want to try and read them before doing so. By saying that were it not for the TAC’s 2001 court case, pregnant mothers would already have had access to dual-therapy treatment, the Minister makes it apparent that she disrespectfully hasn’t bothered to read our highest court’s judgement handed down to her. In its order (Minister, the order is relatively short and is to be found at the end of the judgement) the Court states that: “The orders made … do not preclude government from adapting its policy in a manner consistent with the Constitution if equally appropriate or better methods become available to it”. In any event I would imagine that the TAC is overjoyed by the fact that the Minister has finally, rightly attributed all the lives saved so far through PMTCT solely to them.

]]> By: Hinengaro Te Matapuna http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/comment-page-1/#comment-16410 Hinengaro Te Matapuna Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:15:06 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/#comment-16410 Kia ora Brother, it would seem that not many are prepared to see beneath the skin. So many health professionals have left south africa because they have felt their own mortality in the face of the disaster in your country. Perhaps it needs to be considered that what is needed is less governmental policies dictating how a person may live or die. Let there be grace and beauty and a welcome mat for us that are being judged on our stupidity. Get someone to help clean up the shit - and death. Let the process be faster. I hate to tell you but this part of our humanity died a long long time ago. They are like the light shining from the sky of long dead suns, stars, and galaxies. Those whom have AIDS are the most wisest of us all. We need only remember and this will prevent it happening again. Death is not an end - it is renewal. Bless your love for your people, Rachel Kia ora Brother, it would seem that not many are prepared to see beneath the skin. So many health professionals have left south africa because they have felt their own mortality in the face of the disaster in your country.

Perhaps it needs to be considered that what is needed is less governmental policies dictating how a person may live or die.

Let there be grace and beauty and a welcome mat for us that are being judged on our stupidity. Get someone to help clean up the shit – and death. Let the process be faster.

I hate to tell you but this part of our humanity died a long long time ago. They are like the light shining from the sky of long dead suns, stars, and galaxies.

Those whom have AIDS are the most wisest of us all. We need only remember and this will prevent it happening again. Death is not an end – it is renewal.

Bless your love for your people,
Rachel

]]> By: Belle http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/comment-page-1/#comment-16343 Belle Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:31:03 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/#comment-16343 Jonathan, why even bother auditing the ramblings of an unreformed alcoholic? Sadly, it will take her another decade to kill her (indecently acquired) fresh liver. Strength to you and the TAC. Jonathan, why even bother auditing the ramblings of an unreformed alcoholic? Sadly, it will take her another decade to kill her (indecently acquired) fresh liver.

Strength to you and the TAC.

]]> By: Anthony Brink http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/comment-page-1/#comment-16292 Anthony Brink Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:01:48 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jonathanberger/2008/02/14/the-ministry-of-magic%e2%80%99s-school-of-falsification/#comment-16292 Critical readers interested in informing themselves about the merits of giving AZT to pregnant women and their newborn babies, having regard to both safety and efficacy considerations, and who wish to understand the reasons for President Mbeki and Dr Tshabalala-Msimang's reservations about the drug, can find some useful materials in the 'Quick links' column at www.tig.org.za. These include: Why do President Mbeki and Dr Tshabalala-Msimang warn against the use of ARV drugs like AZT? Why do Zackie Achmat, Nathan Geffen and Mark Heywood want pregnant African women to be given AZT? What AZT does to unborn babies. Debating AZT: Mbeki and the AIDS drug controversy Introducing AZT: 'A world of antiretroviral experience' Inventing AZT Licensing AZT Poisoning our Children: AZT in pregnancy Mother to Child Transmission of HIV and its Prevention with AZT and Nevirapine: A Critical Analysis of the Eevidence Anthony Brink Chairman: Treatment Information Group Critical readers interested in informing themselves about the merits of giving AZT to pregnant women and their newborn babies, having regard to both safety and efficacy considerations, and who wish to understand the reasons for President Mbeki and Dr Tshabalala-Msimang’s reservations about the drug, can find some useful materials in the ‘Quick links’ column at http://www.tig.org.za.

These include:

Why do President Mbeki and Dr Tshabalala-Msimang warn against the use of ARV drugs like AZT?

Why do Zackie Achmat, Nathan Geffen and Mark Heywood want pregnant African women to be given AZT? What AZT does to unborn babies.

Debating AZT: Mbeki and the AIDS drug controversy

Introducing AZT: ‘A world of antiretroviral experience’

Inventing AZT

Licensing AZT

Poisoning our Children: AZT in pregnancy

Mother to Child Transmission of HIV and its Prevention with AZT and Nevirapine: A Critical Analysis of the Eevidence

Anthony Brink
Chairman: Treatment Information Group

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