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		<title>By: Nothando Ndlazi</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/jennygoodrick/2010/02/08/many-wives-make-light-work/comment-page-1/#comment-227748</link>
		<dc:creator>Nothando Ndlazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Research is proving what we knew all along, however, since Polygamy and circumcision was practiced by blacks, Muslims, Jews and other nations who did not colonize Africa.

These nations are treated as second class citizens in South Africa. They are vilified and bullied to conform to weird western practices that undermine our indigenous way of life.
Liberals hide the truth and facts that: 

-Woman in Polygamous marriages are happier and live longer. 
-Circumcision prevents HIV/AIDS spread by more 60% 
The pronunciation of the current president on these matters was reduced to a joke.

Liberal what us to believe only in what they tell us. TO FOLLOW THEM AS PSYCHOLOGICAL SLAVES.

We say No.

VIVA POLYGAMY. VIVA FREEDOM FOR ALL PEOPLES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Research is proving what we knew all along, however, since Polygamy and circumcision was practiced by blacks, Muslims, Jews and other nations who did not colonize Africa.</p>
<p>These nations are treated as second class citizens in South Africa. They are vilified and bullied to conform to weird western practices that undermine our indigenous way of life.<br />
Liberals hide the truth and facts that: </p>
<p>-Woman in Polygamous marriages are happier and live longer.<br />
-Circumcision prevents HIV/AIDS spread by more 60%<br />
The pronunciation of the current president on these matters was reduced to a joke.</p>
<p>Liberal what us to believe only in what they tell us. TO FOLLOW THEM AS PSYCHOLOGICAL SLAVES.</p>
<p>We say No.</p>
<p>VIVA POLYGAMY. VIVA FREEDOM FOR ALL PEOPLES</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Mandela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Mandela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admirer a man who stands up for his beliefs.

It&#039;s ludicrous and sheer grandstanding to talk down polygamy, only because you do not want it.
Live and let live. freedom to choose means exactly that.
we were all born out of a very perfect polygamous system, and we are proud of it.

Divorce Court are full of monogamous marriages crumbling down. Maybe, just maybe polygamy is an answer to us, Muslims and other nations of the world

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admirer a man who stands up for his beliefs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ludicrous and sheer grandstanding to talk down polygamy, only because you do not want it.<br />
Live and let live. freedom to choose means exactly that.<br />
we were all born out of a very perfect polygamous system, and we are proud of it.</p>
<p>Divorce Court are full of monogamous marriages crumbling down. Maybe, just maybe polygamy is an answer to us, Muslims and other nations of the world</p>
<p>WHO SAID WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE IN IS PERFECT?</p>
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		<title>By: sgubhusenkwishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgubhusenkwishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other important point not highlighted by the anti polygamist preachers is that of plurarity produced by polygamy,own nation , own majority, own labour, own force ,which has always been a threat to the world. 
If you look at polygamy from this point of view ,you will definately have a diffirrent article to share with the reades. 
Zulus never looked behind their borders to get solders to defend their territory against the foreigners, they always give a command to their own forces who were powerful because of the very same factor,is your people ,with your culture, without any language barrier or cultural difficulty, it has always been working as a marchine, no foreing inlfuence. 
No space limit, even today if our people can agree with me on this issue ,within no time limit , we will definately regain our territorty from any influx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other important point not highlighted by the anti polygamist preachers is that of plurarity produced by polygamy,own nation , own majority, own labour, own force ,which has always been a threat to the world.<br />
If you look at polygamy from this point of view ,you will definately have a diffirrent article to share with the reades.<br />
Zulus never looked behind their borders to get solders to defend their territory against the foreigners, they always give a command to their own forces who were powerful because of the very same factor,is your people ,with your culture, without any language barrier or cultural difficulty, it has always been working as a marchine, no foreing inlfuence.<br />
No space limit, even today if our people can agree with me on this issue ,within no time limit , we will definately regain our territorty from any influx.</p>
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		<title>By: sgubhusenkwishi</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgubhusenkwishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems as if it doesnt take us anywhere trying to justify what our cultures entails from afrocentric point of view to highlight these to europians who donot have cultures or anything they hold on as cultures than bussiness. 
From afrocentric point of understanding ,marriage is a foundation of a family and lobola is paid to a girls family, to affirm man intention, exclude abuse and to emphasize that a man values the relationship,girls family and girl&#039;s family in turn follows a girls hinds sight to witness a relationship for a new family formation. 
Afterwards there is no divorce ,whatever circumstances would be handled by two families torwards peaceful settlements. 
There is  big opposite on the eurocetric sphere, marriage is like a business between the two couples, who chooses whether to involve family or not ,often involves courts and is shaped around the man&#039;s fortunes, divorce is a first and common option, one woman can get married twenty times, which is not a case with africans. 
The word abuse is often used within the eurocentric sphere but , there is no clear process followed i.e.family based with a family value than selfenrishment to settle the family rows and secure the future of the children from the family, that deserve the dignity and heritage of their patriachial line within a marriage. 
Everything is often rushed to meet the finance and bussiness target, family which a priority is not considered. 
So there is an ocean difference between this 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems as if it doesnt take us anywhere trying to justify what our cultures entails from afrocentric point of view to highlight these to europians who donot have cultures or anything they hold on as cultures than bussiness.<br />
From afrocentric point of understanding ,marriage is a foundation of a family and lobola is paid to a girls family, to affirm man intention, exclude abuse and to emphasize that a man values the relationship,girls family and girl&#8217;s family in turn follows a girls hinds sight to witness a relationship for a new family formation.<br />
Afterwards there is no divorce ,whatever circumstances would be handled by two families torwards peaceful settlements.<br />
There is  big opposite on the eurocetric sphere, marriage is like a business between the two couples, who chooses whether to involve family or not ,often involves courts and is shaped around the man&#8217;s fortunes, divorce is a first and common option, one woman can get married twenty times, which is not a case with africans.<br />
The word abuse is often used within the eurocentric sphere but , there is no clear process followed i.e.family based with a family value than selfenrishment to settle the family rows and secure the future of the children from the family, that deserve the dignity and heritage of their patriachial line within a marriage.<br />
Everything is often rushed to meet the finance and bussiness target, family which a priority is not considered.<br />
So there is an ocean difference between this 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Goodrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny Goodrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler was part of the American Zulu Mission. They were the first Christian missionaries in Natal and they landed in 1835. The AZM was founded in Boston in 1810 and was a non-denominational foreign mission society.

I don&#039;t mind admitting that in my lineage, women were &quot;abused&quot; by not having the same rights as their men. Even now,my friend who is a teacher is furious that at 60 she&#039;s forced to give up certain pay perks at work whereas the men keep their privileges. The women are planning a rebellion! Somehow, women stick up for each other and fight for the betterment of all. 

Women love weddings. And every magazine has something about marriage - how to improve your marriage, how to deal with juggling the kids, how to survive and get to celebrate your 50th wedding anniversay etc. So it&#039;s natural that we&#039;re really curious about something that is/isn&#039;t in the public domain-polygamous marriage and the wives involved. Would it be out of line to have an article perhaps explaining all in Bona, Women and Home and Your Family? (M$G is mainly a male forum!) Female public want to know more - the reality of the dynamics involved. It would be informative and the fact that we&#039;re interested  doesn&#039;t mean that we&#039;re judging. It means that we can have informed opinions. Anyone with facts for this forum,perhaps?   : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler was part of the American Zulu Mission. They were the first Christian missionaries in Natal and they landed in 1835. The AZM was founded in Boston in 1810 and was a non-denominational foreign mission society.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind admitting that in my lineage, women were &#8220;abused&#8221; by not having the same rights as their men. Even now,my friend who is a teacher is furious that at 60 she&#8217;s forced to give up certain pay perks at work whereas the men keep their privileges. The women are planning a rebellion! Somehow, women stick up for each other and fight for the betterment of all. </p>
<p>Women love weddings. And every magazine has something about marriage &#8211; how to improve your marriage, how to deal with juggling the kids, how to survive and get to celebrate your 50th wedding anniversay etc. So it&#8217;s natural that we&#8217;re really curious about something that is/isn&#8217;t in the public domain-polygamous marriage and the wives involved. Would it be out of line to have an article perhaps explaining all in Bona, Women and Home and Your Family? (M$G is mainly a male forum!) Female public want to know more &#8211; the reality of the dynamics involved. It would be informative and the fact that we&#8217;re interested  doesn&#8217;t mean that we&#8217;re judging. It means that we can have informed opinions. Anyone with facts for this forum,perhaps?   : )</p>
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		<title>By: mallencolly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mallencolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sandisa

I think I&#039;ll take you up on that offer to inform me about Zulu or Xhosa culture. 

Im very curious. What would a typical Nguni man consider a good wife to be? The missionary suggests a fertile servant, someone to make babies and cook food. I take it from, from your setting the record straight, that this is incorrect. 

So if you could give me a better idea what an Nguni man would cosider to be ideal virtues in his wives it would be much appreciated. 

Thank you in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sandisa</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll take you up on that offer to inform me about Zulu or Xhosa culture. </p>
<p>Im very curious. What would a typical Nguni man consider a good wife to be? The missionary suggests a fertile servant, someone to make babies and cook food. I take it from, from your setting the record straight, that this is incorrect. </p>
<p>So if you could give me a better idea what an Nguni man would cosider to be ideal virtues in his wives it would be much appreciated. </p>
<p>Thank you in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missionaries. The Moffat family of Kuruman. Donald Frazer. The Moravian church. Do a spot of research before condemning the value added to Africa by the missionaries. Sol Plaaitjie, John Dube, Albert Luthuli, Nelson Mandela, many more were educated by missionaries.

The missionaries brought literacy, science, healthcare, and advancement to Africa. Imparting knowledge was their primary motive.

.. then again, perhaps those who hate the missionaries believe that knowledge and literacy  have added no value to Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missionaries. The Moffat family of Kuruman. Donald Frazer. The Moravian church. Do a spot of research before condemning the value added to Africa by the missionaries. Sol Plaaitjie, John Dube, Albert Luthuli, Nelson Mandela, many more were educated by missionaries.</p>
<p>The missionaries brought literacy, science, healthcare, and advancement to Africa. Imparting knowledge was their primary motive.</p>
<p>.. then again, perhaps those who hate the missionaries believe that knowledge and literacy  have added no value to Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: Panchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Panchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandisa

Polygamy is not the benchmark of your culture. There is sufficient meat in your culture that is not at odds with the predominant world view, that keeps your culture alive and very relevant. Africans of various African cultures are not asked to suppress their culture, but to adjust it. All cultures have done this as an on-going evolution towards a global village culture, for massive self benefit. 

Polygamy is just a step away from being legislated as against the law. Do you honestly think that it will survive your lifetime, considering that you may live another fifty years? I can promise you the answer is no.
And if that is the case, then why fight a losing battle. Turn the tide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandisa</p>
<p>Polygamy is not the benchmark of your culture. There is sufficient meat in your culture that is not at odds with the predominant world view, that keeps your culture alive and very relevant. Africans of various African cultures are not asked to suppress their culture, but to adjust it. All cultures have done this as an on-going evolution towards a global village culture, for massive self benefit. </p>
<p>Polygamy is just a step away from being legislated as against the law. Do you honestly think that it will survive your lifetime, considering that you may live another fifty years? I can promise you the answer is no.<br />
And if that is the case, then why fight a losing battle. Turn the tide.</p>
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		<title>By: InternAfrica</title>
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		<dc:creator>InternAfrica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to question this &#039;western&#039; &#039;african&#039; &#039;eastern&#039; approach to things...

isn&#039;t it the 21st century? aren&#039;t human rights defined?

Or is it people only continentalise or split the world into a handy slice, when you want to squirm out of a question or, more often try to explain something you simply don&#039;t understand or dare look down upon.

smacks of dogma. and some simplistic version of life... devoid of reality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to question this &#8216;western&#8217; &#8216;african&#8217; &#8216;eastern&#8217; approach to things&#8230;</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t it the 21st century? aren&#8217;t human rights defined?</p>
<p>Or is it people only continentalise or split the world into a handy slice, when you want to squirm out of a question or, more often try to explain something you simply don&#8217;t understand or dare look down upon.</p>
<p>smacks of dogma. and some simplistic version of life&#8230; devoid of reality</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody can &#039;justify&#039; having multiple wives. It will never be a need, just a want. And a selfish want if other men are to be considered because it puts remaining bachelors at a disadvantage.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody can &#8216;justify&#8217; having multiple wives. It will never be a need, just a want. And a selfish want if other men are to be considered because it puts remaining bachelors at a disadvantage.</p>
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