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		<title>By: Eve Dmochowska</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/evedmochowska/2008/08/05/death-of-newspapers-nigh/comment-page-1/#comment-48339</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve Dmochowska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick, 

No, I disagree. Strongly. 

If you think it is presumptuous to think we are guaranteed electricity in the medium term, then let me retort that I think it is presumptuous to think that coal/oil are the only source of power. Clearly, they&#039;re not. 

And if the Internet were too fail because of lack of electricity, then actually that would be our smallest problem .

And out choices are not being reduced...the exact opposite, actually. Long Tail, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick, </p>
<p>No, I disagree. Strongly. </p>
<p>If you think it is presumptuous to think we are guaranteed electricity in the medium term, then let me retort that I think it is presumptuous to think that coal/oil are the only source of power. Clearly, they&#8217;re not. </p>
<p>And if the Internet were too fail because of lack of electricity, then actually that would be our smallest problem .</p>
<p>And out choices are not being reduced&#8230;the exact opposite, actually. Long Tail, anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newspapers will survive IF they are not ONLY news but ALSO analysis. That is what I buy my daily for - in depth analysis.

And research has proven that the more people get involved the MORE information they want - from all sources. 

And you forget all those busy career men and women who WORK almost 24/7 - for whom a morning daily is the easiest and fastest way to skim the news. 

AND all those men who simply can&#039;t do their morning visits to the loo without a paper to read? Their plumbing seems to be different to ours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspapers will survive IF they are not ONLY news but ALSO analysis. That is what I buy my daily for &#8211; in depth analysis.</p>
<p>And research has proven that the more people get involved the MORE information they want &#8211; from all sources. </p>
<p>And you forget all those busy career men and women who WORK almost 24/7 &#8211; for whom a morning daily is the easiest and fastest way to skim the news. </p>
<p>AND all those men who simply can&#8217;t do their morning visits to the loo without a paper to read? Their plumbing seems to be different to ours!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can pontificate quite accurately, for example, on the prospects for airlines, tourism, banks and suburbia. Even on national economies and the world economy. The Media is not so easy.  Right now we are seeing newspaper sales falling around the world.  So is the answer to do everything online?

The problem is that once you go online you do require one small system to be functioning: electricity.  You might think something as simple as electricity (and water supply, and driving somewhere) are guaranteed in the medium term.  Think again.

There are more than a few reasons electricity is not guaranteed, just one of them is the price of coal.  As oil depletes, coal is increasingly becoming a substitute, and what do most of the world&#039;s power stations consume?  The price of coal has increased faster than the price of oil, and coal shortages are also imminent.  
1 year ago oil was $76 (per barrel), coal was $59 (per ton).  Today Oil is around $120, coal is $155 (last week it was $169).
Sure, there&#039;s a lot of the stuff left, but there are also many hungry mouthes to feed, and the number of mouthes is growing alarmingly.

So let&#039;s get back to the question - paper or internet news?  The answer will depend on:
1) the number of online users currently as a percentage of the total (in the US and UK, and Korea, internet users are significant, in SA around 10% or less of the total)
2) the level of energy saving from that process

In my humble opinion, newspapers in South Africa will survive, and the internet will not.  The reverse would be true in the U&#124;SA, Kore and elsewhere, although these trends will only take affect once oil goes from $150 into the great beyond (or, when we&#039;re in The Greatest Depression.  With oil at $115 this might seem far-fetched.  I hope it is, but logic tells me otherwise.

What we can safely assume is that our choices will decline drastically in future, and those industries that are well established now (market leaders) and also those with porven sustainability (this is linked to efficiency) will survive.  In plain English, Coke will survive, Fanta, Pepsi, Spar Letta, Irn Bru and all the rest will disappear.  It&#039;s survival of the fittest at its cruellest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can pontificate quite accurately, for example, on the prospects for airlines, tourism, banks and suburbia. Even on national economies and the world economy. The Media is not so easy.  Right now we are seeing newspaper sales falling around the world.  So is the answer to do everything online?</p>
<p>The problem is that once you go online you do require one small system to be functioning: electricity.  You might think something as simple as electricity (and water supply, and driving somewhere) are guaranteed in the medium term.  Think again.</p>
<p>There are more than a few reasons electricity is not guaranteed, just one of them is the price of coal.  As oil depletes, coal is increasingly becoming a substitute, and what do most of the world&#8217;s power stations consume?  The price of coal has increased faster than the price of oil, and coal shortages are also imminent.<br />
1 year ago oil was $76 (per barrel), coal was $59 (per ton).  Today Oil is around $120, coal is $155 (last week it was $169).<br />
Sure, there&#8217;s a lot of the stuff left, but there are also many hungry mouthes to feed, and the number of mouthes is growing alarmingly.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s get back to the question &#8211; paper or internet news?  The answer will depend on:<br />
1) the number of online users currently as a percentage of the total (in the US and UK, and Korea, internet users are significant, in SA around 10% or less of the total)<br />
2) the level of energy saving from that process</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, newspapers in South Africa will survive, and the internet will not.  The reverse would be true in the U|SA, Kore and elsewhere, although these trends will only take affect once oil goes from $150 into the great beyond (or, when we&#8217;re in The Greatest Depression.  With oil at $115 this might seem far-fetched.  I hope it is, but logic tells me otherwise.</p>
<p>What we can safely assume is that our choices will decline drastically in future, and those industries that are well established now (market leaders) and also those with porven sustainability (this is linked to efficiency) will survive.  In plain English, Coke will survive, Fanta, Pepsi, Spar Letta, Irn Bru and all the rest will disappear.  It&#8217;s survival of the fittest at its cruellest.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidakwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sidakwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how the biggest newspaper in the world The Sun in uk is full of tits, footie , and loads of far left stories . Only reason i bought that paper was for the tits.

Otherwise i have my igoogle home page set with news widgets .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how the biggest newspaper in the world The Sun in uk is full of tits, footie , and loads of far left stories . Only reason i bought that paper was for the tits.</p>
<p>Otherwise i have my igoogle home page set with news widgets .</p>
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		<title>By: Rory Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eve you are absolutely right. These days I only buy a newspaper occasionally at the weekends, dailies never. I get my news online. The print dailies have simply got to update their business models if they want to stay in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eve you are absolutely right. These days I only buy a newspaper occasionally at the weekends, dailies never. I get my news online. The print dailies have simply got to update their business models if they want to stay in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Tumi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think that there is too much negative news being printed and that does not give hope too. I have met a lot of people who have decided to stop reading newspaper cos they were getting disillusioned. I think a bit of positivity and news that build and not destroy a nation would help. I don&#039;t think its that bad...when Zuma is being given all the attention for all the wrong reason there is another person who is doing a lot of good. Why are we not talking about those people, thosepositive events?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think that there is too much negative news being printed and that does not give hope too. I have met a lot of people who have decided to stop reading newspaper cos they were getting disillusioned. I think a bit of positivity and news that build and not destroy a nation would help. I don&#8217;t think its that bad&#8230;when Zuma is being given all the attention for all the wrong reason there is another person who is doing a lot of good. Why are we not talking about those people, thosepositive events?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decadently, I read the Weekender and Sunday Independent on my stoep, feet up with a beer or two. It&#039;s great reading and superb relaxation. 
The tactile and involving usage of the medium reminds me of when I gave up smoking. I had to buy a beautifully crafted knife and sticks of biltong to carve, to occupy my hands and replace the ritual of smoking. 
No online immediacy can supplant that experience of physical submersion in a medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decadently, I read the Weekender and Sunday Independent on my stoep, feet up with a beer or two. It&#8217;s great reading and superb relaxation.<br />
The tactile and involving usage of the medium reminds me of when I gave up smoking. I had to buy a beautifully crafted knife and sticks of biltong to carve, to occupy my hands and replace the ritual of smoking.<br />
No online immediacy can supplant that experience of physical submersion in a medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Tash Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tash Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siphiwo, the &quot;death&quot; of traditional South African dailies as predicted by Eve and others won&#039;t touch tabloids - the Daily Sun will continue to grow and grow, as its readers by and large do not have access to the internet.

As a newspaper journalist, this sort of post just depresses me. *sigh* American newspapers are floundering, I gather there&#039;s some major retrenchments happening in British newspapers, and perhaps we&#039;re the next to be hit. I&#039;m sure the ruling party won&#039;t miss us! *grin*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siphiwo, the &#8220;death&#8221; of traditional South African dailies as predicted by Eve and others won&#8217;t touch tabloids &#8211; the Daily Sun will continue to grow and grow, as its readers by and large do not have access to the internet.</p>
<p>As a newspaper journalist, this sort of post just depresses me. *sigh* American newspapers are floundering, I gather there&#8217;s some major retrenchments happening in British newspapers, and perhaps we&#8217;re the next to be hit. I&#8217;m sure the ruling party won&#8217;t miss us! *grin*</p>
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		<title>By: Eve Dmochowska</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/evedmochowska/2008/08/05/death-of-newspapers-nigh/comment-page-1/#comment-47909</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve Dmochowska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dean 
Indeed, there is something decadent about the weekend paper. I don&#039;t see that disappearing any time soon

@amandzing
When I say newspapers, I mean those dailies that claim to  deliver &quot;news&quot;. I actually enjoy the community newspapers, and I think they are going to go from strength to strength, mainly becasue they deliver highly relevant information to a very targetted audience. That is paradise for advertisers, which means revenue should always be strong. And, of course, the fact that they are free and delivered to my door also helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dean<br />
Indeed, there is something decadent about the weekend paper. I don&#8217;t see that disappearing any time soon</p>
<p>@amandzing<br />
When I say newspapers, I mean those dailies that claim to  deliver &#8220;news&#8221;. I actually enjoy the community newspapers, and I think they are going to go from strength to strength, mainly becasue they deliver highly relevant information to a very targetted audience. That is paradise for advertisers, which means revenue should always be strong. And, of course, the fact that they are free and delivered to my door also helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Suntosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think newspaper sales will further drop, but the appeal of online news is only one reason for this. The generation growing up now are becoming more and more aliterate - they don&#039;t want to read the news, on paper or on screen.

There is also little sign that a critical mass of thinkers are being developed for a vibrant public sphere (alas, the Mxit and MTV leaders of tomorrow)

The internet&#039;s potential as a public sphere where debate and expression runs free is enormous. But it&#039;s only the urban middle class who will benefit.

The Daily Sun will stay in business for a long time to come. The pace of economic transformation in SA is not sufficient to narrow the digital divide within our borders.

I&#039;ll stick to my hard copy, but also make a daily trip online. Instant commenting is hard to resist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think newspaper sales will further drop, but the appeal of online news is only one reason for this. The generation growing up now are becoming more and more aliterate &#8211; they don&#8217;t want to read the news, on paper or on screen.</p>
<p>There is also little sign that a critical mass of thinkers are being developed for a vibrant public sphere (alas, the Mxit and MTV leaders of tomorrow)</p>
<p>The internet&#8217;s potential as a public sphere where debate and expression runs free is enormous. But it&#8217;s only the urban middle class who will benefit.</p>
<p>The Daily Sun will stay in business for a long time to come. The pace of economic transformation in SA is not sufficient to narrow the digital divide within our borders.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick to my hard copy, but also make a daily trip online. Instant commenting is hard to resist!</p>
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