Comments on: Screw the Ugandan gays, Gareth Cliff, Schabir Shaik, WC2010… http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jon http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106349 Jon Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:21:32 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106349 That blimming Mayon volcano in the Phillipines is single-conedly spewing more greenhouse gases than all the world's humans have done ever since we learnt to walk upright. And its neighbour, Mt Pinatubo, did likewise some years back. So too Mt St Helens, and Etna and Vesuvius and Krakatoa and Ruapehu etc. Every "wetland" which is seen as a precious natural treasure for bird and aquatic life is secretly really a foetid swamp, producing many kilotons of noxious methane gas every year. The globe warms and the globe cools. It's natural. That blimming Mayon volcano in the Phillipines is single-conedly spewing more greenhouse gases than all the world’s humans have done ever since we learnt to walk upright. And its neighbour, Mt Pinatubo, did likewise some years back. So too Mt St Helens, and Etna and Vesuvius and Krakatoa and Ruapehu etc.

Every “wetland” which is seen as a precious natural treasure for bird and aquatic life is secretly really a foetid swamp, producing many kilotons of noxious methane gas every year.

The globe warms and the globe cools. It’s natural.

]]> By: MFB http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106313 MFB Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:37:27 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106313 Yeah, except (please note) nobody was asked whether they wanted the planet saved or not. We don't know whether the average schmuck is willing to make sacrifices to cut carbon emissions, because nobody in power has suggested doing so. The best we know is that the average schmuck seems suspicious of the people who tell us that carbon emissions don't matter. Yeah, except (please note) nobody was asked whether they wanted the planet saved or not. We don’t know whether the average schmuck is willing to make sacrifices to cut carbon emissions, because nobody in power has suggested doing so. The best we know is that the average schmuck seems suspicious of the people who tell us that carbon emissions don’t matter.

]]> By: james Magodi http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106304 james Magodi Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:37:17 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106304 Very interesting - but, come to think of it, it's taken over a hundred years for the ordinary person, like you and I, to really take this "climate change" issue really seriously - in the past 15-years, world leaders have been meeting over glasses of 24 year old whisk(ie)s discussing girlfriends and boyfriends, then, there was the Tsunami, New Orleans, Phillipines, Obama, Malema, Tiger Woods and ofcourse, Gareth Cliff - and now, the ordinary person knows what climate change, is really about. Very interesting – but, come to think of it, it’s taken over a hundred years for the ordinary person, like you and I, to really take this “climate change” issue really seriously – in the past 15-years, world leaders have been meeting over glasses of 24 year old whisk(ie)s discussing girlfriends and boyfriends, then, there was the Tsunami, New Orleans, Phillipines, Obama, Malema, Tiger Woods and ofcourse, Gareth Cliff – and now, the ordinary person knows what climate change, is really about.

]]> By: X Cepting http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106303 X Cepting Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:05:17 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106303 To all you jetsetting Cornucopian denialists with the 4x4's: Wake up and smell the pollution! You are rushing us to edge of the cliff at ballistic speed with your selfish greed. Start thinking how you will explain to your grandchildren what a whale used to look like. To all you jetsetting Cornucopian denialists with the 4×4′s: Wake up and smell the pollution! You are rushing us to edge of the cliff at ballistic speed with your selfish greed. Start thinking how you will explain to your grandchildren what a whale used to look like.

]]> By: X Cepting http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106301 X Cepting Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:50:45 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106301 Thank you for saying what should be shouted from the rooftops and have earned me the title "eco terrorist" or "mean greenie" in trying to do so. I am comforted to know that I am not as alone as I thought. The one point often missed in the attempt to anthropomorphize the intricate web of systems we call the Earth, is that it has no emotions and could not give a damn about one species that would not live in balance with the rest. At some point humanity's collective abuse of the system will cause it to reach a crisis point that no amount of summits or politics or money will fix. On that day we are in big trouble. The signs are there already. Abnormal droughts, blizzards, etc. Humanity, wake up and see the signs! We cannot afford the disgusting excesses anymore, especially the population excess. Thank you for saying what should be shouted from the rooftops and have earned me the title “eco terrorist” or “mean greenie” in trying to do so. I am comforted to know that I am not as alone as I thought.

The one point often missed in the attempt to anthropomorphize the intricate web of systems we call the Earth, is that it has no emotions and could not give a damn about one species that would not live in balance with the rest. At some point humanity’s collective abuse of the system will cause it to reach a crisis point that no amount of summits or politics or money will fix. On that day we are in big trouble. The signs are there already. Abnormal droughts, blizzards, etc. Humanity, wake up and see the signs! We cannot afford the disgusting excesses anymore, especially the population excess.

]]> By: brent http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106297 brent Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:43:20 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106297 If global warming/climate change is at crisis point, explain why the worlds leaders are ego bashing and negotiating/grubbing to gain advantage for their nations? The answer seems to be that climate change is just a grand scam, follow the money and see where it leads. One thing all countries can do now to limit carbon is save/grow the worlds tropical forests (not sure but read somewhere they are responsible for up to 40% of carbon capturing) but this was not even on the Copenhagen table. Why not???, my cynical mind explains that this solution provides very little big income streams for the rich and powerful so is ignored. It is also ignored by bloggers/talk shows and politicians proving that the world is not in crisis or this easy short term fix would be embraced by all people with integrity. Over population is not the problem, over consumption is; the US with 300 million consumes more than China/India (+- 2.2 billion) combined. Brent If global warming/climate change is at crisis point, explain why the worlds leaders are ego bashing and negotiating/grubbing to gain advantage for their nations? The answer seems to be that climate change is just a grand scam, follow the money and see where it leads.

One thing all countries can do now to limit carbon is save/grow the worlds tropical forests (not sure but read somewhere they are responsible for up to 40% of carbon capturing) but this was not even on the Copenhagen table. Why not???, my cynical mind explains that this solution provides very little big income streams for the rich and powerful so is ignored. It is also ignored by bloggers/talk shows and politicians proving that the world is not in crisis or this easy short term fix would be embraced by all people with integrity.

Over population is not the problem, over consumption is; the US with 300 million consumes more than China/India (+- 2.2 billion) combined.

Brent

]]> By: Excalibur http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106296 Excalibur Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:24:49 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106296 David, David, David, you need to do some work on this global warming theory of yours and the IPCC, and then realise that Al Gore is as about as newsworthy as Gareth Cliff. By all means use the "global warming" terrorism to promote sustainable use of our planet (via solar tech, reducing rampant excess, green manufacturing and construction practise, stopping genetic engineering of foodstuff to try and feed a huge population that should not exist in the first place, etc), cut down on pollution and generally live more mindful lives. But please don't put humans in charge of trying to steer the good Earth. We have f#cked it up enough already, trying to fix something we did not cause could be the death knell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequence). Climate change is a large cycle that cannot be influenced by man. It will get hotter, then colder, with some spells in between. And Al Gore and his mates will make piles of money from scaring us all to death. ISBN: 0826476201 David, David, David, you need to do some work on this global warming theory of yours and the IPCC, and then realise that Al Gore is as about as newsworthy as Gareth Cliff. By all means use the “global warming” terrorism to promote sustainable use of our planet (via solar tech, reducing rampant excess, green manufacturing and construction practise, stopping genetic engineering of foodstuff to try and feed a huge population that should not exist in the first place, etc), cut down on pollution and generally live more mindful lives. But please don’t put humans in charge of trying to steer the good Earth. We have f#cked it up enough already, trying to fix something we did not cause could be the death knell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequence). Climate change is a large cycle that cannot be influenced by man. It will get hotter, then colder, with some spells in between. And Al Gore and his mates will make piles of money from scaring us all to death. ISBN: 0826476201

]]> By: Azad Essa http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106274 Azad Essa Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:22:08 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106274 hey, what's wrong with living in a tent? you tent-a-phobe :p we should all jerk off to climate change hey, what’s wrong with living in a tent? you tent-a-phobe :p

we should all jerk off to climate change

]]> By: CB http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106270 CB Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:56:54 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106270 Thank you Owen! I couldn't agree more. Yet this seems to be a taboo subject. It's the proverbial elephant in the room. Overpopulation is the no. 1 cause of global warming. But no-one wants to address this. Oi ... Thank you Owen! I couldn’t agree more. Yet this seems to be a taboo subject. It’s the proverbial elephant in the room. Overpopulation is the no. 1 cause of global warming. But no-one wants to address this. Oi …

]]> By: DylanG http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-106269 DylanG Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:21:03 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/davidjsmith/2009/12/22/screw-the-ugandan-gays-gareth-cliff-schabir-shaik-wc2010%e2%80%a6/#comment-106269 Owen our masters have that plan ready for action...it's a comin soon. Owen our masters have that plan ready for action…it’s a comin soon.

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