Comments on: No new light, just recycled trash: Anthea Jeffery’s People’s War

By: dd

dd — Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:47:27 +0000

Its good that you did your own first aid course, and ok it cut into your time at the Rift, but that was better than jail.

By: Michael Graaf

Michael Graaf — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 11:04:49 +0000

If I remember correctly it was to have been 1800 hours, performed at the rate of 18 hours per week, so it would have taken a couple of years. However after 6 months I was allowed to stop while my appeal was heard, and before that process completed, I got amnesty. Although it was so part-time, the timing was awful (12 of those hours were from 6 on Friday evening to 6 on Sat morning).

The hospital was my own suggestion; I had done first-aid training in the army, and it connected with the Gandhian tradition. I had to do a Red Cross course at my own expense as part of the sentence.

Community service would be fine as long as it was voluntary and non-politicised.

By: dd

dd — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 03:50:33 +0000

@Michael Graaf
Thanks. How long was your community service? Why in a hospital, do you have medical skills? How did you find this work, compared to a jail sentence; how disruptive was it to your life and normal work? What is your attitude to community service as an option for the vast unemployed youth – a non-military conscription?

By: Michael Graaf

Michael Graaf — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 09:53:31 +0000

@dd: I was the first objector to have his jail sentence suspended – on condition of unpaid community service (in a hospital). This was probably because in between the time I refused and my sentencing (almost a year), FW had started his releases, unbanning etc. What I said was that I had been willing to go to jail.

By: dd

dd — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:24:16 +0000

@ Michael Graaf
“a jail sentence”
How long were you in jail, and where?

By: Eagle

Eagle — Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:51:27 +0000

@ David Africa.

It is pathetic that 30 years after “apartheid” ended in the workplace and 15 years after your government came into power you are still leaning on the crutch of “apartheid”. 15 years later and things are worse than they ever were in this country.

The Afrikaner took less than 10 years to recover and surpass the near genocide and massive losses of their farms, livestock and families suffered under the Anglo-boer war. Your “hardships” are nothing compared to what the Boer nation went though fighting for “your” country.

The Japanese in less that 15 years, recovered from the devastation of WWII and starting dominating world markets.

The Jewish nation overcame the holocaust and the death of 6 million of their people and rose again as a nation in just more than a decade.

It is the type of mentality that you are displaying that is depressing your race.

Instead of coveting the few possessions of a minority race which you outnumber 50 million to 3.9 million why not do something about the Billions that have been squandered through corruption and incompetence by your government. If that money went where it was supposed to go there would not have been a poor person left in this country.

By: David Africa

David Africa — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:04:26 +0000

Chris,I suppose its the Africa (read Black) in my name that gets to you? Your ramble about Europe’s ‘problem’ with immigration has nothing to do with the topic under discussion, and if there’s one thing I can guarantee you, its that I am not a liberal…the problems left behind for us by Apartheid need solutions much more radical than the liberal nonsense prescribed by many in the ANC and opposition parties.

Selim – I suppose everyone teaching security studies at any institute, think talk or university is a spy? Rather large fraternity, isn’t it? Sounds rather paranoid to me. Any brief look at some of the stuff I’ve posted shows that I am no liberal, but no ANC hack either. In fact a number of my blogs have been specific critiques of the ANC. What I cannot accept is liberal license with the truth about the struggle. Whatever one’s political position, it cannot be denied that the ANc played THE key role in the liberation struggle, and that the picture portrayed by Jeffery is gross distortion of that history. How I manage to grovel in front of the ANC while hiding my allegiance is quite beyond me….but i suppose I am trained as a spy to do these things well? Pathetic

By: Michael Graaf

Michael Graaf — Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:01:53 +0000

Chris, could you elaborate on your statement that David Africa’s name says it all? Obviously it says something, but which of many possible things, I am unsure. David may wish to enlighten us, but first let’s hear Chris.

Brent, your statement that Buthelezi entered and won the struggle for control of KwaZulu to prevent it going pseudo-independent begs the question: who, besides the apartheid regime, ever wanted it to be “independent”; who did he “save” it from?

By: Dr Selim Y Gool

Dr Selim Y Gool — Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:40:05 +0000

As we would say in my ghetto, “Watch-It, DIE booykie is ‘n spy”. Basically, the fact that Mr Africa teaches something called “Security Studies” says it ALL!

His febile attempts to hide his PRO-ANC slant(s) and grovelling before the reigning ANC Monarch/Prez/’Mah Leader’ with his pathetic views/reviews leaves me totally cold.

So Anthea Jeffery does not get the ‘BIG PICTURE’ and is also a biased little-DA researcher/hack, BUT thereby hangs a tale my bro!

I cannot condone Mr Africa’s pathetic nonsence.

Dr Cool

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:37:26 +0000

David Africa’s name says it all. Anthea Jeffery’s insight and other similar opinions is slowly starting to emerge from the European liberal rubbish dump.
It will become common knowledge in the next decade or two, when Europe struggles to find an answer to the immigrant problem.
Unfortunately, I also see and end to Western type of Democracy in Europe soon after that.