Comments on: Facebook: Pokes vs real penetration http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Julie Posetti http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4803 Julie Posetti Sat, 03 Nov 2007 02:58:37 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4803 Darren – very witty engagement with ‘poking’ but you’ve overlooked all the double entendre value of the much hipper form of FB flirtation: ‘Super-poking’. Yep, it’s poking with pictures and involves a multitude of options – throwing a chicken at, trout-slapping, cheering for, or engaging in all manner of lewd acts with your ‘friends’. But on a more serious note, it is absolutely possible to engage intellectually on FB – how is it any less a potential vehicle for such interaction than blogging? I’m a journalism academic from Australia and I use FB to engage my current and former students in debates about politics, reporting and ethics. It’s also a vehicle for mentoring, career advice and professional interaction for them. And, I’ve witnessed relationships blossom in this space in a meaningful way – FB friendships are not all about shallow interaction! There’s no point hiding from this phenomenon – social networking online is here to stay and instead of eschewing it, why not make it serve your professional, educational, intellectual and social interests? Putting your head in a hole never solves fear of the unknown. I’ve blogged about all this myself if you’re interested: http://www.j-scribe.com/2007/10/facebook-face-off.html Darren – very witty engagement with ‘poking’ but you’ve overlooked all the double entendre value of the much hipper form of FB flirtation: ‘Super-poking’. Yep, it’s poking with pictures and involves a multitude of options – throwing a chicken at, trout-slapping, cheering for, or engaging in all manner of lewd acts with your ‘friends’.

But on a more serious note, it is absolutely possible to engage intellectually on FB – how is it any less a potential vehicle for such interaction than blogging? I’m a journalism academic from Australia and I use FB to engage my current and former students in debates about politics, reporting and ethics. It’s also a vehicle for mentoring, career advice and professional interaction for them. And, I’ve witnessed relationships blossom in this space in a meaningful way – FB friendships are not all about shallow interaction!

There’s no point hiding from this phenomenon – social networking online is here to stay and instead of eschewing it, why not make it serve your professional, educational, intellectual and social interests? Putting your head in a hole never solves fear of the unknown.

I’ve blogged about all this myself if you’re interested:

http://www.j-scribe.com/2007/10/facebook-face-off.html

]]> By: Mischa & Mvulane http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4772 Mischa & Mvulane Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:33:01 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4772 The virtual world deprives us of a chance to live. Don't you suppose it's better to engage intellectualy rather than 'just chat'. Atleast then spending time on the internet's worth it. The virtual world deprives us of a chance to live. Don’t you suppose it’s better to engage intellectualy rather than ‘just chat’. Atleast then spending time on the internet’s worth it.

]]> By: Richard Catto http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4770 Richard Catto Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:17:40 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4770 I want out of facebook. I really do. I want out of facebook. I really do.

]]> By: Joy-Mari Cloete http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4766 Joy-Mari Cloete Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:22:08 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4766 Does it matter that there is no ONE real value to Facebook? Facebook users (mostly young professionals) are not interested in how many business contacts they can connect with. We're interested in interacting with each other. We're promoting ourselves. We're poking that cute guy with the blue eyes and hoping he'll poke back. Nothing surprising about that. The real value is what YOU get out of it. Does it matter that there is no ONE real value to Facebook? Facebook users (mostly young professionals) are not interested in how many business contacts they can connect with.
We’re interested in interacting with each other. We’re promoting ourselves. We’re poking that cute guy with the blue eyes and hoping he’ll poke back.
Nothing surprising about that. The real value is what YOU get out of it.

]]> By: Darren Smith http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4765 Darren Smith Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:18:15 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4765 There you go. I couldn't agree more. Let me qualify my previous "Oh its over-rated" remark ... At a US$15 billion valuation (for Facebook), I suspect that the Web 2.0 bubble is getting quite nice and taught ... there's going to be some popping going on in the not too distant future. But it'll likely get bigger (the bubble) before it goes bang. It is astonishing how short peoples' memories can be, the 'dot.com' bubble having shaken things a mere 5 years ago. As for finding something useful in Facebook, there's no question about it ... I find it extraordinarily useful. But probably in ways that have nothing to do with its social core. Using Facebook as I do, primarily as a business network building tool, I am gaining insight into networks, people and associated connections that the Xings, LinkedIns and other business networks have singularly failed to give me. I have created a larger network of accessible, professional people in 6 months on Facebook, than I managed to do in 5 years on LinkedIn. They've got something right ... and its the viral nature of social networking ... As for the REAL value ... the jury is still out on that. There you go. I couldn’t agree more.
Let me qualify my previous “Oh its over-rated” remark …
At a US$15 billion valuation (for Facebook), I suspect that the Web 2.0 bubble is getting quite nice and taught … there’s going to be some popping going on in the not too distant future. But it’ll likely get bigger (the bubble) before it goes bang.
It is astonishing how short peoples’ memories can be, the ‘dot.com’ bubble having shaken things a mere 5 years ago.
As for finding something useful in Facebook, there’s no question about it … I find it extraordinarily useful. But probably in ways that have nothing to do with its social core.
Using Facebook as I do, primarily as a business network building tool, I am gaining insight into networks, people and associated connections that the Xings, LinkedIns and other business networks have singularly failed to give me.
I have created a larger network of accessible, professional people in 6 months on Facebook, than I managed to do in 5 years on LinkedIn.
They’ve got something right … and its the viral nature of social networking …
As for the REAL value … the jury is still out on that.

]]> By: Joy-Mari Cloete http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4762 Joy-Mari Cloete Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:01:06 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4762 Its over-rated only if you fail to find something useful in it. Its over-rated only if you fail to find something useful in it.

]]> By: Darren Smith http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4758 Darren Smith Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:39:12 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4758 Oh its over-rated alright. As is television, the movies, sex, the web, magazines ... bla bla bla. But at <b>some</b> point, they can all hit just the right spot. And bingo ... you get it. Oh its over-rated alright. As is television, the movies, sex, the web, magazines … bla bla bla.
But at some point, they can all hit just the right spot. And bingo … you get it.

]]> By: Mischa & Mvulane http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/comment-page-1/#comment-4750 Mischa & Mvulane Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:08:31 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/darrensmith/2007/11/01/facebook-pokes-versus-real-penetration/#comment-4750 It's even more amazing that a College student started all this. We are not on Facebook. We think it's overrated. It’s even more amazing that a College student started all this. We are not on Facebook. We think it’s overrated.

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