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	<title>Comments on: Polokwane&#8217;s revenge: &#8216;no crisis Mbeki&#8217; pulls the walls down</title>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*I have not even once seen a comment from anyone saying “I have a blanket to spare, ten bucks to buy a loaf of bread or a tin of fish at home, where is the closest place hosting refugees?*

Because we would look like prats and morons trying to prove how impressive we were when actually however much we are doing, it isn&#039;t enough.  Additionally, because those of us who are (and were before this current outrage) doing something already KNOW where to send the stuff because it&#039;s not that hard to find places.  You just open your eyes.  

Would it make my opinion more valid if I gave you the list you want?  I&#039;d suggest you actually couldn&#039;t care less but I could always email it to interested parties (if I could get over the complete and sickening lack of humility feeling).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*I have not even once seen a comment from anyone saying “I have a blanket to spare, ten bucks to buy a loaf of bread or a tin of fish at home, where is the closest place hosting refugees?*</p>
<p>Because we would look like prats and morons trying to prove how impressive we were when actually however much we are doing, it isn&#8217;t enough.  Additionally, because those of us who are (and were before this current outrage) doing something already KNOW where to send the stuff because it&#8217;s not that hard to find places.  You just open your eyes.  </p>
<p>Would it make my opinion more valid if I gave you the list you want?  I&#8217;d suggest you actually couldn&#8217;t care less but I could always email it to interested parties (if I could get over the complete and sickening lack of humility feeling).</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndall Beddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndall Beddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuma

Mbeki had been mediating (interfering and protecting Bob) for 8 years. He should have recused himself after less than ONE year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuma</p>
<p>Mbeki had been mediating (interfering and protecting Bob) for 8 years. He should have recused himself after less than ONE year.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Whelan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Whelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuma

No one is obliged to suggest what Mbeki needs to do to &#039;save the situation&#039; (whatever that means) in Zim and when people do make suggestions, those suggestions do not bind Mbeki - in the sense that he is the country&#039;s president and it is his decision. He is free to choose whether he thinks critics are right or wrong and whether or not to follow their advice.

The fact that no one else may have a solution does not relieve Mbeki of his problem. He is president.

If the way he solves or does not solve the problem is unsatisfactory, people are free to say so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuma</p>
<p>No one is obliged to suggest what Mbeki needs to do to &#8216;save the situation&#8217; (whatever that means) in Zim and when people do make suggestions, those suggestions do not bind Mbeki &#8211; in the sense that he is the country&#8217;s president and it is his decision. He is free to choose whether he thinks critics are right or wrong and whether or not to follow their advice.</p>
<p>The fact that no one else may have a solution does not relieve Mbeki of his problem. He is president.</p>
<p>If the way he solves or does not solve the problem is unsatisfactory, people are free to say so.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody give me evidence that Motlanthe is not a fervent supporter of ZANU PF and an of the targeted sanctions. Still nobody suggests what really Mbeki should do to save the situation in Zimbabwe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody give me evidence that Motlanthe is not a fervent supporter of ZANU PF and an of the targeted sanctions. Still nobody suggests what really Mbeki should do to save the situation in Zimbabwe.</p>
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		<title>By: Siphiwo Qangani with Kangaroos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siphiwo Qangani with Kangaroos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JLA
downunder, the thirstiest continet in the world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JLA<br />
downunder, the thirstiest continet in the world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too right. Thabo Mbeki, Trevor Manuel, Tito Mboweni and Alec Erwin have been disasters for this country. Why Cosatu is throwing their support behind Zuma boggles the mind. We must pray to god that Mr Motlanthe can lead us out of this socio-economic mess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too right. Thabo Mbeki, Trevor Manuel, Tito Mboweni and Alec Erwin have been disasters for this country. Why Cosatu is throwing their support behind Zuma boggles the mind. We must pray to god that Mr Motlanthe can lead us out of this socio-economic mess</p>
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		<title>By: anton kleinschmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>anton kleinschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ lungi

Thabo Mbeki in his role as President is the man in the hot seat or the equivalent of Chief Executive Officer of South Africa Ltd. When something goes wrong with the governing of South Africa he carries the can. That is what he gets paid for and it is called accountability / responsibilty

Several top international bankers including the CEO of Citibank (one of the worlds biggest) were recently fired because things went wrong whilst they were in charge. Tony Blair jumped before he was pushed and George Bush is about to suffer a similar fate

When you right at the top of the pile there is no one else to blame when things go wrong. You cannot simply ignore failure at the top because things can only get worse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ lungi</p>
<p>Thabo Mbeki in his role as President is the man in the hot seat or the equivalent of Chief Executive Officer of South Africa Ltd. When something goes wrong with the governing of South Africa he carries the can. That is what he gets paid for and it is called accountability / responsibilty</p>
<p>Several top international bankers including the CEO of Citibank (one of the worlds biggest) were recently fired because things went wrong whilst they were in charge. Tony Blair jumped before he was pushed and George Bush is about to suffer a similar fate</p>
<p>When you right at the top of the pile there is no one else to blame when things go wrong. You cannot simply ignore failure at the top because things can only get worse</p>
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		<title>By: Charlene Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlene Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vuyo/Bouwer aka Tom P - thanks for the correction.  It&#039;s regrettable, but no doubt inevitable, that instead of an intelligent rebuttal you have to resort to insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vuyo/Bouwer aka Tom P &#8211; thanks for the correction.  It&#8217;s regrettable, but no doubt inevitable, that instead of an intelligent rebuttal you have to resort to insult.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming the man at the top is not the answer. Its like saying its Bush&#039;s fault everytime we disagree with American actions we do not like.
These individuals are supported by cabinet ministers etc.
Local government probably has more to answer for than central government. But even so, are they  not all surrounded by advisors who&#039;s job it is to make sure that their incompetent bosses don&#039;t mess up.
We are going downhill very fast and we need someone to apply the brakes. Put the nepotism aside and employ the best and hopefully we will still have time to stop the rot.
Generals need good, well trained and dedicated troops to have an effective army. Without them they will not win any battles let alone the war we are already fighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming the man at the top is not the answer. Its like saying its Bush&#8217;s fault everytime we disagree with American actions we do not like.<br />
These individuals are supported by cabinet ministers etc.<br />
Local government probably has more to answer for than central government. But even so, are they  not all surrounded by advisors who&#8217;s job it is to make sure that their incompetent bosses don&#8217;t mess up.<br />
We are going downhill very fast and we need someone to apply the brakes. Put the nepotism aside and employ the best and hopefully we will still have time to stop the rot.<br />
Generals need good, well trained and dedicated troops to have an effective army. Without them they will not win any battles let alone the war we are already fighting.</p>
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		<title>By: amused reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>amused reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lungi

The western world has been pouring billions of dollars into Africa for 50 years, and it has done bugger all good thus far.

You can willingly have my blanket, R10, and a tin of fish, but what is it going to solve, whilst the lunatics are still running the asylum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lungi</p>
<p>The western world has been pouring billions of dollars into Africa for 50 years, and it has done bugger all good thus far.</p>
<p>You can willingly have my blanket, R10, and a tin of fish, but what is it going to solve, whilst the lunatics are still running the asylum?</p>
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