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		<title>By: shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great comments</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ No, Francois. Whoever wins the US election, YOU will still be a hypercritical, USA-obsessed loser.

Cheers, Luv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ No, Francois. Whoever wins the US election, YOU will still be a hypercritical, USA-obsessed loser.</p>
<p>Cheers, Luv.</p>
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		<title>By: francois williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>francois williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever wins...the US is going to lose...he, he...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever wins&#8230;the US is going to lose&#8230;he, he&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, the reason why people are crying out for change in America is because of the insurance companies, the haliburtons and mercenary companies making billions of dollars out of unscrupulous dealings and favoritism. How different is that to what you mention is happening in South Africa. I am not condoning corruption, but do not pretend that all is right in the western world.

You mention that people are elected based on the color of their skin, well at least a democratic process has been followed. Is that not what democracy ascribes to, that the majority rule. Do you really believe that blacks would vote for the continuation of white rule and oppression after going through oppression for more than 400 years. 

Are you telling us that all the leaders of the apartheid era were educated. You know very well that thousands of your brothers and sisters left school with a standard eight certificate, but they still got good jobs, while blacks with higher education were jobless.

You should thank the circumstances under which your brothers and sisters governed South Africa. They had to please only the white segment of the population, whereas the ANC government have to fend for everyone. This means that limited resources had to be spread out to cover the whole country. It is obvious that they will have more difficulties to fulfill the tasks. Come on John, do not be so narrowminded, but join the solution seekers in the new South Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, the reason why people are crying out for change in America is because of the insurance companies, the haliburtons and mercenary companies making billions of dollars out of unscrupulous dealings and favoritism. How different is that to what you mention is happening in South Africa. I am not condoning corruption, but do not pretend that all is right in the western world.</p>
<p>You mention that people are elected based on the color of their skin, well at least a democratic process has been followed. Is that not what democracy ascribes to, that the majority rule. Do you really believe that blacks would vote for the continuation of white rule and oppression after going through oppression for more than 400 years. </p>
<p>Are you telling us that all the leaders of the apartheid era were educated. You know very well that thousands of your brothers and sisters left school with a standard eight certificate, but they still got good jobs, while blacks with higher education were jobless.</p>
<p>You should thank the circumstances under which your brothers and sisters governed South Africa. They had to please only the white segment of the population, whereas the ANC government have to fend for everyone. This means that limited resources had to be spread out to cover the whole country. It is obvious that they will have more difficulties to fulfill the tasks. Come on John, do not be so narrowminded, but join the solution seekers in the new South Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Liansky, nice to hear from you, lucid, non-chemically-induced comments, as always.

Here’s a riddle for you. HUSSEIN OBAMA. His father was from AHVRIKAH (American pronunciation) and his mother from Kansas, but, now wait for it, “she was white as snow”, in his own words. His father returned to his roots (his father’s roots) to study when he, Obama, was 2 years old and he, Obama, grew up with his mother and grandparents, in the main.

Now in our rainbow nation where about 55 million people of different heritages, Indians, coloureds, Muslims, Chinese, Polynesians, Mauritians, etc. etc. are all classified as black, because it means that us 55 million Africans can present a more unified, voting fodder front to the evil, plotting, hankering-to-the-past whities, all evil 3,9 million of them. Of course being omni-powerfull, us that is, and having shown the rest of the world how to do successful democracy, the chances are good that America will let us dictate our brand of racial classification to them and promptly change all their systems so that all Indians (the red ones) Spanish, Hawaiians, Mexicans, Australians, Britons, etc. etc. will all be classified as BLHAACKHE (american pronunciation). 

Now, until that happens what will Obama actually be? Be he black or might there be some of the evil blood of white colonials running through his veins. HA!!. You tell me, my man

Jonn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Liansky, nice to hear from you, lucid, non-chemically-induced comments, as always.</p>
<p>Here’s a riddle for you. HUSSEIN OBAMA. His father was from AHVRIKAH (American pronunciation) and his mother from Kansas, but, now wait for it, “she was white as snow”, in his own words. His father returned to his roots (his father’s roots) to study when he, Obama, was 2 years old and he, Obama, grew up with his mother and grandparents, in the main.</p>
<p>Now in our rainbow nation where about 55 million people of different heritages, Indians, coloureds, Muslims, Chinese, Polynesians, Mauritians, etc. etc. are all classified as black, because it means that us 55 million Africans can present a more unified, voting fodder front to the evil, plotting, hankering-to-the-past whities, all evil 3,9 million of them. Of course being omni-powerfull, us that is, and having shown the rest of the world how to do successful democracy, the chances are good that America will let us dictate our brand of racial classification to them and promptly change all their systems so that all Indians (the red ones) Spanish, Hawaiians, Mexicans, Australians, Britons, etc. etc. will all be classified as BLHAACKHE (american pronunciation). </p>
<p>Now, until that happens what will Obama actually be? Be he black or might there be some of the evil blood of white colonials running through his veins. HA!!. You tell me, my man</p>
<p>Jonn</p>
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		<title>By: Liansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So John, what your saying is that voting for a black man with a muslim middle-name is evil and it will bring about the end of America, just like the blacks are doing in SA? 

Ok, here&#039;s my time to shine and get the approval of the guys who run TL &gt;&gt;&gt; I APPROVE.

Ok, so, like, does this get me kudo points?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So John, what your saying is that voting for a black man with a muslim middle-name is evil and it will bring about the end of America, just like the blacks are doing in SA? </p>
<p>Ok, here&#8217;s my time to shine and get the approval of the guys who run TL &gt;&gt;&gt; I APPROVE.</p>
<p>Ok, so, like, does this get me kudo points?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One just has to look at the nonsense spoken by this David D to see what liberals are all about. These are now the stereotypes who voted for Obama.

Uninformed, subjective, hysterical, melodramatics fuelled by anti-white racist propaganda, their limited understanding of any subject and their never-ending craving for attention. They are the reason we are living this nightmare in South Africa today. Best to ignore them.

Why does no-one seem concerned that this man has a Moslem middle name and some say, Middle East connections? How soon do they forget 9/11?

Oh yes, and his wife made a big issue in Oprah Winfrey that he f*rts in bed and that, apparently, he smells so bad that his kids can&#039;t come near him.

Ok, let me put the big spoon away and wait for the flak.  

Jonn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One just has to look at the nonsense spoken by this David D to see what liberals are all about. These are now the stereotypes who voted for Obama.</p>
<p>Uninformed, subjective, hysterical, melodramatics fuelled by anti-white racist propaganda, their limited understanding of any subject and their never-ending craving for attention. They are the reason we are living this nightmare in South Africa today. Best to ignore them.</p>
<p>Why does no-one seem concerned that this man has a Moslem middle name and some say, Middle East connections? How soon do they forget 9/11?</p>
<p>Oh yes, and his wife made a big issue in Oprah Winfrey that he f*rts in bed and that, apparently, he smells so bad that his kids can&#8217;t come near him.</p>
<p>Ok, let me put the big spoon away and wait for the flak.  </p>
<p>Jonn</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the votes are in and it looks like the Clinton war machine is back on track. But, hey, its a long way to the convention and my money is on John Edwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the votes are in and it looks like the Clinton war machine is back on track. But, hey, its a long way to the convention and my money is on John Edwards.</p>
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		<title>By: cool down.</title>
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		<dc:creator>cool down.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear David D,who pissed you off so badly that you have such distorted views of White South Africans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear David D,who pissed you off so badly that you have such distorted views of White South Africans?</p>
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		<title>By: Musa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm like I said Charlene, keep hoping. Besides, it seem t me that should Obama lead the Democrates into the elections the Republicans (no matter who their candidate) with take them to the cleaners. On the other hand Hillary can withstand a Republican onslaught. Much as I irrationally hope for Obama, Hillary is the best and sane bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm like I said Charlene, keep hoping. Besides, it seem t me that should Obama lead the Democrates into the elections the Republicans (no matter who their candidate) with take them to the cleaners. On the other hand Hillary can withstand a Republican onslaught. Much as I irrationally hope for Obama, Hillary is the best and sane bet.</p>
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