Comments on: Wimps, political correctness and what it means to be a member of the ANC http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: aktshabalala http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-9598 aktshabalala Sat, 22 Dec 2007 07:09:22 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-9598 Hi Charlene, No article is 100% good; you will never write such and not even the sermon on the mountain could be given 100%; not because it has faults; but because we can differ. The general tone is not bad, but if you look at the whole situation, you may write differently. All over the world, a few are richer than the majority, but in some countries not like ours. When this government took over,you know their principles were compromised by some white people. In our fear not to scare capital; they have taken things softly; thus to a large measure discrediting themselves. It is now too late to blame Thabo; the vote has spoken; he knows what to do. But if he comes up with pro-poor plans ,big business will complain. Could you explain to me how increasing the interest rate will curb inflation? Who deceived our government that selling Telkom, Eskom, will make them efficient? Who has made a proper study how many of our professionals are stolen by the West? The problem is multi factorial 1: politicians lost it along the way 2:Business has made it difficult for them 3:poor education of the masses has created dependency and delayed response to fight for their rights. 4:We who are just a little bit better, have been too selfish to care; the best we do is to pontificate here and go home to enjoy a glass of expensive wine. 5:It is quite correct that Cosatu should have a strong word in Govenrmet. 6:What do we do; not what we should have done. 7: It is good that the poor have taken over; what does majority rule mean ? 8:The government needs to be strong; not what some capitalists are saying; that it is too involved. They want to credit themselves(capitalists) for the good and blame government for the bad. 9:WE WILL ONLY KNOW THE STORY MANY YEARS TO COME WHO DERAILED OUR PRESIDENT-MAY BE A BOOK WILL COME OUT ONE DAY.I have never seen so noble an ideology so miscarried. But he has not been a complete failure; we have seen worse; including the whole apartheid philosophy Now the poor are voting; tomorrow they may find the vote too useless; and you know the result. Hi Charlene,

No article is 100% good; you will never write such and not even the sermon on the mountain could be given 100%; not because it has faults; but because we can differ.

The general tone is not bad, but if you look at the whole situation, you may write differently.

All over the world, a few are richer than the majority, but in some countries not like ours.

When this government took over,you know their principles were compromised by some white people.

In our fear not to scare capital; they have taken things softly; thus to a large measure discrediting themselves.

It is now too late to blame Thabo; the vote has spoken; he knows what to do.

But if he comes up with pro-poor plans ,big business will complain.

Could you explain to me how increasing the interest rate will curb inflation?

Who deceived our government that selling Telkom, Eskom, will make them efficient?

Who has made a proper study how many of our professionals are stolen by the West?

The problem is multi factorial

1: politicians lost it along the way

2:Business has made it difficult for them

3:poor education of the masses has created dependency and delayed response to fight for their rights.

4:We who are just a little bit better, have been too selfish to care; the best we do is to pontificate here and go home to enjoy a glass of expensive wine.

5:It is quite correct that Cosatu should have a strong word in Govenrmet.

6:What do we do; not what we should have done.

7: It is good that the poor have taken over; what does majority rule mean ?

8:The government needs to be strong; not what some capitalists are saying; that it is too involved. They want to credit themselves(capitalists) for the good and blame government for the bad.

9:WE WILL ONLY KNOW THE STORY MANY YEARS TO COME WHO DERAILED OUR PRESIDENT-MAY BE A BOOK WILL COME OUT ONE DAY.I have never seen so noble an ideology so miscarried. But he has not been a complete failure; we have seen worse; including the whole apartheid philosophy

Now the poor are voting; tomorrow they may find the vote too useless; and you know the result.

]]> By: teacher http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-8927 teacher Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:05:28 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-8927 THOMAS G U R A COWARD.U DO NOT DISMISS THOSE U DIFFER WITH.U ALLOW SPACE FOR ENGAGEMENT THOMAS G U R A COWARD.U DO NOT DISMISS THOSE U DIFFER WITH.U ALLOW SPACE FOR ENGAGEMENT

]]> By: Thomas G http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7517 Thomas G Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:31:47 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7517 No, no, let them leave. At best average tolerance levels will rise and at worst national morale. No, no, let them leave. At best average tolerance levels will rise and at worst national morale.

]]> By: John Bond http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7443 John Bond Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:56:38 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7443 It’s fascinating to read the range of perceptions of how well our country has done in the last 10 years. I am amazed!!! Is this site called “Thought Leader”? How is it possible for someone to find themselves reading and then responding to this blog and contesting the ANC’s very poor performance, or do I live in another country to these guys. Well done Charlene for chasing these idiots out from the woodwork. Exposure to the light of day is the best response we can give these arguments. (Your blog is also good) The Socialism Vs Laze Faire string running through Lenin and Paul's posts is also a lot of fun. You can see they’ve both studied Economics 101. Trouble is there are a lot of failed economies in Africa including ours. How do we change this? Mixed races in one country don’t make for good democracy but we’ve tried solving this in the past partitioning the races using Aparthate and that didn’t work either. The Global Economy is utterly unforgiving but it doesn’t punish the leadership, it punishes the poor of any country where the political leadership is useless. Ask the Zimbabwe people or the North Koreans or the people of Burma. Are we next? It’s fascinating to read the range of perceptions of how well our country has done in the last 10 years. I am amazed!!! Is this site called “Thought Leader”? How is it possible for someone to find themselves reading and then responding to this blog and contesting the ANC’s very poor performance, or do I live in another country to these guys.

Well done Charlene for chasing these idiots out from the woodwork. Exposure to the light of day is the best response we can give these arguments. (Your blog is also good)

The Socialism Vs Laze Faire string running through Lenin and Paul’s posts is also a lot of fun. You can see they’ve both studied Economics 101.

Trouble is there are a lot of failed economies in Africa including ours. How do we change this? Mixed races in one country don’t make for good democracy but we’ve tried solving this in the past partitioning the races using Aparthate and that didn’t work either.

The Global Economy is utterly unforgiving but it doesn’t punish the leadership, it punishes the poor of any country where the political leadership is useless. Ask the Zimbabwe people or the North Koreans or the people of Burma. Are we next?

]]> By: JV Monde http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7400 JV Monde Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:41:46 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7400 Charlene, You argue against political correctness yet your article reads substantially like a politically correct ranting against the ANC government and Mbeki in particular. You seem also to have embraced the very successful strategy of being a spokesperson for the South African poor and downtrodden, as well as a condemner of naked capitalism (provided it is BEE/Govt supported/ANC aligned/Black, or permutations of the foregoing). The commentator you referred to has done nothing different than precisely what you have done in your article (i.e. elaborate on your involvement with the ANC, supposedly to establish your liberal/progressive/leftist credentials, afterwards tirade against government by pointing out the obvious: poverty, HIV/AIDS, Crime, etc). Sadly the essential origins of these social ills are not traced, the ludicrous assertion/belief that remedies to these ills can found within 13 years, is suggested throughout (as though this has ever been done in any country in the world). You are however [partially] correct that essence of any democracy is freedom of expression and as such can never, should never, be qualified. Yet interestingly you seek that those who choose to exercise this freedom should in essence exercise it in a manner that is keeping with your anti-PC leanings. Please learn to recognize (and live with) the fact that freedom of expression is also predicated on the diversity of the modes, means, manner, etc, of expression. Your suggestion that standing in a democratic election and losing, is “humiliating”, really boggles the mind. Such a statement is the antithesis of the democracy that you purportedly espouse! Your suggestion that “we may have the vote but we are not free” is, frankly, insulting. Charlene,
You argue against political correctness yet your article reads substantially like a politically correct ranting against the ANC government and Mbeki in particular. You seem also to have embraced the very successful strategy of being a spokesperson for the South African poor and downtrodden, as well as a condemner of naked capitalism (provided it is BEE/Govt supported/ANC aligned/Black, or permutations of the foregoing).
The commentator you referred to has done nothing different than precisely what you have done in your article (i.e. elaborate on your involvement with the ANC, supposedly to establish your liberal/progressive/leftist credentials, afterwards tirade against government by pointing out the obvious: poverty, HIV/AIDS, Crime, etc). Sadly the essential origins of these social ills are not traced, the ludicrous assertion/belief that remedies to these ills can found within 13 years, is suggested throughout (as though this has ever been done in any country in the world).

You are however [partially] correct that essence of any democracy is freedom of expression and as such can never, should never, be qualified. Yet interestingly you seek that those who choose to exercise this freedom should in essence exercise it in a manner that is keeping with your anti-PC leanings. Please learn to recognize (and live with) the fact that freedom of expression is also predicated on the diversity of the modes, means, manner, etc, of expression.

Your suggestion that standing in a democratic election and losing, is “humiliating”, really boggles the mind. Such a statement is the antithesis of the democracy that you purportedly espouse!

Your suggestion that “we may have the vote but we are not free” is, frankly, insulting.

]]> By: Isobar http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7388 Isobar Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:39:37 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7388 Is this debate going anywhere?Apartheid where does the word come from?One Afrikaans speaking politician,asked to explain "seperate development" could not find appropriate words to describe the system of failed social engineering,and said "Apartheid".If he he said "Vlieg in jou moer" the system would have been known as the "Vieg in jou moer sisteem" which it actually was.So we must ask ourselves why this system of social Engineering failed.The end game after all was that all seperate developed entities (homelands) would come together as equals in a United nations,a European Union,if you like,with no one able to dominate the other.So why did the Afrikaners continue this system started by the English.Simply because the the British only included the Afrikaners in the peace negotiations after the Boer wars,forgetting that both sides made ample use of black labour. On the 3rd January 1899,Milner wrote to his colleague,the Imperial Secretary George Fiddes as follows:"If only the Uitlanders stand firm on the formula"no rest without reform", we shall do the trick my boy.... and by the soul of St Jingo they get a fair amount of bucking up from us all one way and another.."The end game of course the newly discovered gold-beds.Kruger being informed by the Geologist "Mr President,the conglomerate gold-beds and enclosing sandstones and quartzites were sea-shore deposits formed during the subsidence of a coat line in.." said to his wife "Mama,meet the gentleman who was there when God made the earth". The Boer wars proved disatrous for the both British and Boers.As early as 1815 the cost was set as 200 million British pounds,22000 died.The Boers lost 7000 dead.It is estimated that between 18 000 and 28 000 died in concentration camps.Nobody kept accurate records.And what about the Blacks nobody knows,igures range from 7000 to 12000. Milner arrogant as ever wrote on 21 January 1901,as follows to Richard Haldane,about the Boer resistance "Low types of animal organism will survive injuries which would kill organisms of a higher type.They die,too...but it takes time.For the moment the severed pieces wriggle very vigorously." Nothing but the total extermination of the Boers would have satisfied this gentleman. The wriggling had to be stopped and farm burning untill stopped by Roberts took a heavy toll,estimated by some as high as 6000 farms destroyed So what has this to do with Apartheid,everything, the Boers strugling to get to their feet saw their salvation in "seperate devolpment" in which they only had to take care of their own people and not have to worry about others,the stock market collapse in 1929,the following drought,uprising by mineworkers all took it's toll,so when they came to power in 1948,they swore never to be subservant to any nation again The burden to develop their own and to take care of the others,despite some valiant efforts,become too much and Apartheid came tumbling down like a house cards,.under the pressure of sactions and foreign pressure,withdrawal of investments etc.Not withstanding the millions of Rands and eguipment being pumped into homelands((See dr Philip du Toit'S "The great South African Land Scandal" )in this regard and millions of "Black taxes",such as local tax (green R 1 stamp) hospital tax (25c blue stamp)General tax (R3-50 green stamp) Additional tax being pumped into homelands,it all came to nought.The homelands were plaqued by corruption,incompetance etc,much as it is today. Notable achievements in urban Areas was the Establishment of Daveyton,established on the farm Holfontein on the East Rand.In this Township between 10 and 12 000 people left behind by he mining giants,were housed in matchboxes fully equiped with electricity and waterborne sewage.Sportfields,beerhalls ,tennis courts,sports stadium,cinema were provided and this all in the early fifties.So you see they did try,but no political freedom. So where does this all leave us.If we do not collectively change our attitudes and accept one another as equals in this beautiful land,respect our diversity in culture, language and history,how painful that maybe,we will all become losers and the eventual winners will be the criminals,who don't care about the colour of our skin and will leave us all dispossessed if we don't unite. Is this debate going anywhere?Apartheid where does
the word come from?One Afrikaans speaking politician,asked to explain “seperate development”
could not find appropriate words to describe the
system of failed social engineering,and said “Apartheid”.If he he said “Vlieg in jou moer”
the system would have been known as the “Vieg in jou moer sisteem” which it actually was.So we must
ask ourselves why this system of social Engineering
failed.The end game after all was that all seperate
developed entities (homelands) would come together
as equals in a United nations,a European
Union,if you like,with no one able to dominate the other.So why did the Afrikaners continue this system started by the English.Simply because the
the British only included the Afrikaners in the
peace negotiations after the Boer wars,forgetting
that both sides made ample use of black labour.
On the 3rd January 1899,Milner wrote to his colleague,the Imperial Secretary George Fiddes as follows:”If only the Uitlanders stand firm on the formula”no rest without reform”, we shall do the trick my boy…. and by the soul of St Jingo they
get a fair amount of bucking up from us all one way
and another..”The end game of course the newly
discovered gold-beds.Kruger being informed
by the Geologist “Mr President,the conglomerate
gold-beds and enclosing sandstones and quartzites were sea-shore deposits formed during the subsidence of a coat line in..” said to his wife
“Mama,meet the gentleman who was there when God made the earth”.
The Boer wars proved disatrous for the both British
and Boers.As early as 1815 the cost was set as 200
million British pounds,22000 died.The Boers lost
7000 dead.It is estimated that between 18 000 and
28 000 died in concentration camps.Nobody kept
accurate records.And what about the Blacks nobody knows,igures range from 7000 to 12000. Milner arrogant as ever wrote on 21 January 1901,as follows to Richard Haldane,about the Boer resistance “Low types of animal organism will survive injuries which would kill organisms of a higher type.They die,too…but it takes time.For the moment the severed pieces wriggle very vigorously.” Nothing but the total extermination of the Boers would have satisfied this gentleman.
The wriggling had to be stopped and farm burning
untill stopped by Roberts took a heavy toll,estimated by some as high as 6000 farms destroyed
So what has this to do with Apartheid,everything,
the Boers strugling to get to their feet saw their
salvation in “seperate devolpment” in which they
only had to take care of their own people and not
have to worry about others,the stock market collapse in 1929,the following drought,uprising by
mineworkers all took it’s toll,so when they came
to power in 1948,they swore never to be subservant
to any nation again The burden to develop their own and
to take care of the others,despite some valiant
efforts,become too much and Apartheid came tumbling
down like a house cards,.under the pressure of sactions and foreign pressure,withdrawal of investments etc.Not withstanding the millions of Rands and eguipment being pumped into homelands((See dr Philip du Toit’S “The great South
African Land Scandal” )in this regard and millions
of “Black taxes”,such as local tax (green R 1 stamp) hospital tax (25c blue stamp)General tax (R3-50 green stamp) Additional tax being pumped into homelands,it all came to nought.The homelands
were plaqued by corruption,incompetance etc,much as it is today.
Notable achievements in urban Areas was the
Establishment of Daveyton,established on the farm
Holfontein on the East Rand.In this Township between 10 and 12 000 people left behind by he mining giants,were housed in matchboxes fully equiped with electricity and waterborne sewage.Sportfields,beerhalls ,tennis courts,sports stadium,cinema were provided and this all in the early fifties.So you see they did try,but no political freedom.
So where does this all leave us.If we do not
collectively change our attitudes and accept one
another as equals in this beautiful land,respect
our diversity in culture, language and history,how painful that maybe,we will all become losers and
the eventual winners will be the criminals,who don’t care about the colour of our skin and will
leave us all dispossessed if we don’t unite.

]]> By: Breton http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7386 Breton Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:24:12 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7386 Very well balanced article. I believe it articulates a great deal of the conflicting emotions running through South Africa and her citizens at this time. However, I believe that there has been some progress in the last 13yrs and under the presidency of Mr Mbeki. I do not find any bitterness towards the policies of Affirmative Action embedded in your article and I am puzzled by some of the responses you have recieved. Very well balanced article. I believe it articulates a great deal of the conflicting emotions running through South Africa and her citizens at this time. However, I believe that there has been some progress in the last 13yrs and under the presidency of Mr Mbeki. I do not find any bitterness towards the policies of Affirmative Action embedded in your article and I am puzzled by some of the responses you have recieved.

]]> By: Elvie http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7366 Elvie Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:38:48 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7366 This is probably the most crucial time for this young democracy. Feelings and emotions are high and everyone is on edge, wondering what will happen after the ANC Conference. I find that extremely sad because it means we are all resigned to the fact that the ANC are the only party expected to run our country. I also wish the ANC would remember the day all the white people, once given the chance by the then government to make a choice, voted for change. I don't believe there has ever been recognition for the fact that the white people of this country wanted a new democracy, knowing full well this would mean an ANC leadership, at least for the first decade or so. Mbekie has NOT done badly, although I don't like the fact he has surrounded himself with 'yes' people and is happy to dislodge those who oppose him, (which, in my humble opinion is the same mentality as Robert Mugabe). He has however neglected a lot of his promises, but show me a leader in any country who has not done the same. It is particularly sad that the ANC has such a lack of leadership contenders who have the ability and support to make this a 'real' vote. Jacob Zuma would NOT be a good leader. He is, in essence, a guerrilla fighter (his song asking for his machine gun says it all)and I can't see him having the ability to run a country! However, the masses have no idea what it takes to be a President of a country and therefore they are enclosed in a belief that hasn't changed from a 'fight' to a 'democracy'. Apartheid is OVER. I wish we could move on from that. Apartheid belongs in the pages of history, to be remembered, taught and never repeated - PLEASE don't let a new apartheid grow. Charlene, your words are true and heartfelt. I wish all who read them understand that you and I, as white South Africans are part of that Charter. This is probably the most crucial time for this young democracy. Feelings and emotions are high and everyone is on edge, wondering what will happen after the ANC Conference. I find that extremely sad because it means we are all resigned to the fact that the ANC are the only party expected to run our country. I also wish the ANC would remember the day all the white people, once given the chance by the then government to make a choice, voted for change. I don’t believe there has ever been recognition for the fact that the white people of this country wanted a new democracy, knowing full well this would mean an ANC leadership, at least for the first decade or so. Mbekie has NOT done badly, although I don’t like the fact he has surrounded himself with ‘yes’ people and is happy to dislodge those who oppose him, (which, in my humble opinion is the same mentality as Robert Mugabe). He has however neglected a lot of his promises, but show me a leader in any country who has not done the same. It is particularly sad that the ANC has such a lack of leadership contenders who have the ability and support to make this a ‘real’ vote. Jacob Zuma would NOT be a good leader. He is, in essence, a guerrilla fighter (his song asking for his machine gun says it all)and I can’t see him having the ability to run a country! However, the masses have no idea what it takes to be a President of a country and therefore they are enclosed in a belief that hasn’t changed from a ‘fight’ to a ‘democracy’. Apartheid is OVER. I wish we could move on from that. Apartheid belongs in the pages of history, to be remembered, taught and never repeated – PLEASE don’t let a new apartheid grow. Charlene, your words are true and heartfelt. I wish all who read them understand that you and I, as white South Africans are part of that Charter.

]]> By: Njongo http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7364 Njongo Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:34:17 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7364 Why should i not be suprised by this piece of writting.Comrade we must not be fooled by this ultra rubbish articles and think that ANC is not against this capilist tendecies by the way we have tried to accomodate these people(white inparticular ,capitalist but aren not thankful) and this what makes the ANC seems to be diveded because we Why should i not be suprised by this piece of writting.Comrade we must not be fooled by this ultra rubbish articles and think that ANC is not against this capilist tendecies by the way we have tried to accomodate these people(white inparticular ,capitalist but aren not thankful) and this what makes the ANC seems to be diveded because we

]]> By: ethnicity http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/comment-page-1/#comment-7346 ethnicity Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:33:58 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/charlenesmith/2007/11/30/wimps-political-correctness-and-what-it-means-to-be-a-member-of-the-anc/#comment-7346 show me one country in the world where one ethnic group has governed another ethnic group justly...you can't - the closest and best example is Anglo-America (the same countries which the marxists rail against) who accept migrants and integrate them into civilised living every year any tribe in Africa which expects to be justly governed by a different tribe is dreaming look at Zimbabwe look at Somalia - 3 tribes all of the same religion (islam) but in conflict the solution my dears isn't fixing the political system, its in civilising the people to rise above ethnicity - to keep economics and poltiics scientific - instead of a legalised way to rob Peter to pay Paul but a government which robs peter to pay paul can always count on the support of its voters (the paul tribe) show me one country in the world where one ethnic group has governed another ethnic group justly…you can’t – the closest and best example is Anglo-America (the same countries which the marxists rail against) who accept migrants and integrate them into civilised living every year

any tribe in Africa which expects to be justly governed by a different tribe is dreaming

look at Zimbabwe
look at Somalia – 3 tribes all of the same religion (islam) but in conflict

the solution my dears isn’t fixing the political system, its in civilising the people to rise above ethnicity – to keep economics and poltiics scientific – instead of a legalised way to rob Peter to pay Paul

but a government which robs peter to pay paul can always count on the support of its voters (the paul tribe)

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