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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/burningpaper/2008/04/15/lets-talk-about-the-jews/comment-page-3/#comment-40170</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must say this piece left a bad taste in my mouth. But mostly I am left asking, what&#039;s the point of this article other than just a personal rant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must say this piece left a bad taste in my mouth. But mostly I am left asking, what&#8217;s the point of this article other than just a personal rant?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/burningpaper/2008/04/15/lets-talk-about-the-jews/comment-page-3/#comment-34114</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy Vey. In all the various writings on Jews and religion that flood the web daily, this has to rank in the lowest possible category through head-slapping obliviousness and pure ignorance. If bringing blogging into disrepute was an olympic sport, Jarred would be heading to Beijing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy Vey. In all the various writings on Jews and religion that flood the web daily, this has to rank in the lowest possible category through head-slapping obliviousness and pure ignorance. If bringing blogging into disrepute was an olympic sport, Jarred would be heading to Beijing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/burningpaper/2008/04/15/lets-talk-about-the-jews/comment-page-3/#comment-33839</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have, for once, chuckled a bit through a Cinman blog. But in the final instance, I have to agree with  Chris, highly intelligent, maybe, but with a lingering small mindedness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have, for once, chuckled a bit through a Cinman blog. But in the final instance, I have to agree with  Chris, highly intelligent, maybe, but with a lingering small mindedness.</p>
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		<title>By: Cool Down</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/burningpaper/2008/04/15/lets-talk-about-the-jews/comment-page-3/#comment-31515</link>
		<dc:creator>Cool Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 06:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And after all this nothing has changed or has it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And after all this nothing has changed or has it?</p>
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		<title>By: Castor Troye</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/burningpaper/2008/04/15/lets-talk-about-the-jews/comment-page-3/#comment-30237</link>
		<dc:creator>Castor Troye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend, like Jared who would consider himself against religious structure and beliefs. But what many dont seem to udnerstand is that Jarred, like my friend, is still a Jew. Jews dont need to be baptized, naturalized or converted to be Jewish (althought non-Jews can convert). 

Jarred&#039;s argument is circular in that he criticizes the social or movie going packaged Jew. I guess, the definition of being Jewish is unique and gets lost in translation. It is not just a religion, or just a culture or just a nation. One could call it a way of life. Some people emphasize certain parts of the identity over other parts, but nevertheless, all aspects of the identity are inextricably linked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend, like Jared who would consider himself against religious structure and beliefs. But what many dont seem to udnerstand is that Jarred, like my friend, is still a Jew. Jews dont need to be baptized, naturalized or converted to be Jewish (althought non-Jews can convert). </p>
<p>Jarred&#8217;s argument is circular in that he criticizes the social or movie going packaged Jew. I guess, the definition of being Jewish is unique and gets lost in translation. It is not just a religion, or just a culture or just a nation. One could call it a way of life. Some people emphasize certain parts of the identity over other parts, but nevertheless, all aspects of the identity are inextricably linked.</p>
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		<title>By: BLACKLISTED DICTATOR</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/burningpaper/2008/04/15/lets-talk-about-the-jews/comment-page-3/#comment-28555</link>
		<dc:creator>BLACKLISTED DICTATOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consulting Engineer,
You write:
&quot;There are far more shenanigans by the Chosen destabalising nations and profiting from misery.&quot;
Is this something that you copied from Adolf Hitler&#039;s autobigraphy, &quot;Mein Kampf&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consulting Engineer,<br />
You write:<br />
&#8220;There are far more shenanigans by the Chosen destabalising nations and profiting from misery.&#8221;<br />
Is this something that you copied from Adolf Hitler&#8217;s autobigraphy, &#8220;Mein Kampf&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: BLACKLISTED DICTATOR</title>
		<link>http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/burningpaper/2008/04/15/lets-talk-about-the-jews/comment-page-3/#comment-28377</link>
		<dc:creator>BLACKLISTED DICTATOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Cosulting Enginneer,
You write:
&quot;It appears there is no right of reply where the jewsih media is concerned.&quot;
Are you now implying that a &quot;non-Jewish&quot; media might exist? Have you forgotten what you also wrote abot the Jews?? ... “And these are the people who control the world media?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Cosulting Enginneer,<br />
You write:<br />
&#8220;It appears there is no right of reply where the jewsih media is concerned.&#8221;<br />
Are you now implying that a &#8220;non-Jewish&#8221; media might exist? Have you forgotten what you also wrote abot the Jews?? &#8230; “And these are the people who control the world media?”</p>
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		<title>By: Willem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul

You are simply wrong about Sanlam and Volkskas. The government had nothing to do with the establishment of those organisations. I speak under correction, but I think they had been founded in the 1930&#039;s already - as an initiative of civil society and precisely because the government didn&#039;t step in to solve the poor white problem. As for Eskom, when my stepfather worked there in the 1980&#039;s the English were overrepresented in the management ranks. The CEO at that stage was an Englishman, Ian McRae and many of my stepfather&#039;s colleagues had actually been recruited from England. I suspect the same obtained at Armscor, as I knew a guy whose father had been recruited from England. 

The only thing that changed after the Nats came to power was that Afrikaners had henceforth an equal   opportunity at getting employment in government and its agencies. There wasn&#039;t reverse discrimination, such as employment quotas or tender quotas.  As I mentioned previously, the first tender to be awarded to an Afrikaner owned civil engineering firm was in the 1960&#039;s. 

The most significant proof against your assertions, however, is that the English population were the economically dominant group right up to the end of apartheid, even though they were only half as big as the Afrikaner group. As late as the 1980&#039;s they still controlled 80% of the listed capital on the JSE and enjoyed significantly higher average per capita income right up to the end of apartheid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul</p>
<p>You are simply wrong about Sanlam and Volkskas. The government had nothing to do with the establishment of those organisations. I speak under correction, but I think they had been founded in the 1930&#8242;s already &#8211; as an initiative of civil society and precisely because the government didn&#8217;t step in to solve the poor white problem. As for Eskom, when my stepfather worked there in the 1980&#8242;s the English were overrepresented in the management ranks. The CEO at that stage was an Englishman, Ian McRae and many of my stepfather&#8217;s colleagues had actually been recruited from England. I suspect the same obtained at Armscor, as I knew a guy whose father had been recruited from England. </p>
<p>The only thing that changed after the Nats came to power was that Afrikaners had henceforth an equal   opportunity at getting employment in government and its agencies. There wasn&#8217;t reverse discrimination, such as employment quotas or tender quotas.  As I mentioned previously, the first tender to be awarded to an Afrikaner owned civil engineering firm was in the 1960&#8242;s. </p>
<p>The most significant proof against your assertions, however, is that the English population were the economically dominant group right up to the end of apartheid, even though they were only half as big as the Afrikaner group. As late as the 1980&#8242;s they still controlled 80% of the listed capital on the JSE and enjoyed significantly higher average per capita income right up to the end of apartheid.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Catto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Catto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consulting Engineer, and other verbose posters, your lengthy diatribes are not being read by man nor beast.

Keep it concise, please.

My recommendation to the Thought Leader editor is to remove this blog post and it&#039;s associated comment thread.

Jew bashing is passe. Indeed any posts bashing religion are old hat before they have even been conceived. Religion and a belief in gods or (one) God has been bashed for millennia and yet humankind still has a great desire for the satisfaction that religious belief brings them.

I expect it will continue in this fashion uninterrupted by the passage of time until humankind is extinct. The vast majority of the human race will always be adherents of some form of religion or another.

And there will always be those among us who consider all religion to be ridiculous and worthy of belittling, to little avail.

As far as I am concerned Atheism is just as much a religion as any other kind.

Judaism and Christianity have served humanity greatly by transforming modern society from the brutal existence that humans suffered under when the Ancients worshipped their old gods. We live in a much kinder and gentler society as a direct result of the influence of those two religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consulting Engineer, and other verbose posters, your lengthy diatribes are not being read by man nor beast.</p>
<p>Keep it concise, please.</p>
<p>My recommendation to the Thought Leader editor is to remove this blog post and it&#8217;s associated comment thread.</p>
<p>Jew bashing is passe. Indeed any posts bashing religion are old hat before they have even been conceived. Religion and a belief in gods or (one) God has been bashed for millennia and yet humankind still has a great desire for the satisfaction that religious belief brings them.</p>
<p>I expect it will continue in this fashion uninterrupted by the passage of time until humankind is extinct. The vast majority of the human race will always be adherents of some form of religion or another.</p>
<p>And there will always be those among us who consider all religion to be ridiculous and worthy of belittling, to little avail.</p>
<p>As far as I am concerned Atheism is just as much a religion as any other kind.</p>
<p>Judaism and Christianity have served humanity greatly by transforming modern society from the brutal existence that humans suffered under when the Ancients worshipped their old gods. We live in a much kinder and gentler society as a direct result of the influence of those two religions.</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well lets just see... 
could we re-title this article ?
what would our re-title be... hmmmm...  umpteen reasons I like the Jews ??? (doesn’t seem to fit) 
ok... lets try... umpteen reasons I hate the Jews (a bit strong)... 
ok... lets try... umpteen reasons I hate religion (still a bit strong)...
ok... lets try... umpteen reasons I cant stand the Jews (seems a little more fitting)
or... maybe lets try... I’m not here to discuss why I cant stand the Jews, I’m just publishing... pls don’t try and converse...  
or... maybe lets try... umpteen reasons I am offended about Jews (ahhh... a better fit) (some arm chair psychologists might just suggest that... the title should then be... umpteen reasons I am offending Jews) 
FWIW: Google suggests a definition of hate speech as --&gt; type of speech which is used to deliberately offend an individual; or racial, ethnic, religious or other group


What ever happened to a Thought Leader being about Thesis, Antithesis to get to Synthesis ? 


PS: it looks like there are too many ppl here looking for OK stickers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well lets just see&#8230;<br />
could we re-title this article ?<br />
what would our re-title be&#8230; hmmmm&#8230;  umpteen reasons I like the Jews ??? (doesn’t seem to fit)<br />
ok&#8230; lets try&#8230; umpteen reasons I hate the Jews (a bit strong)&#8230;<br />
ok&#8230; lets try&#8230; umpteen reasons I hate religion (still a bit strong)&#8230;<br />
ok&#8230; lets try&#8230; umpteen reasons I cant stand the Jews (seems a little more fitting)<br />
or&#8230; maybe lets try&#8230; I’m not here to discuss why I cant stand the Jews, I’m just publishing&#8230; pls don’t try and converse&#8230;<br />
or&#8230; maybe lets try&#8230; umpteen reasons I am offended about Jews (ahhh&#8230; a better fit) (some arm chair psychologists might just suggest that&#8230; the title should then be&#8230; umpteen reasons I am offending Jews)<br />
FWIW: Google suggests a definition of hate speech as &#8211;&gt; type of speech which is used to deliberately offend an individual; or racial, ethnic, religious or other group</p>
<p>What ever happened to a Thought Leader being about Thesis, Antithesis to get to Synthesis ? </p>
<p>PS: it looks like there are too many ppl here looking for OK stickers&#8230;</p>
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