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	<title>Comments on: In defence of the Mother****ing City</title>
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		<title>By: Nicola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Ms Anne Stevens with regard to charges 4 and 5.

Cape Town restuarants are awful. The service isn&#039;t indifferent, it&#039;s non existent.

As for the people being rude, after having lived in Cape Town for 10 years, I learnt that there&#039;s no point in trying to be friendly, you will only be on the receiving end of a confused glare. 

Otherwise, keep your mountain and ocean, they&#039;re beautiful, and I will come and visit them once a year for the two weeks that you have good weather ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Ms Anne Stevens with regard to charges 4 and 5.</p>
<p>Cape Town restuarants are awful. The service isn&#8217;t indifferent, it&#8217;s non existent.</p>
<p>As for the people being rude, after having lived in Cape Town for 10 years, I learnt that there&#8217;s no point in trying to be friendly, you will only be on the receiving end of a confused glare. </p>
<p>Otherwise, keep your mountain and ocean, they&#8217;re beautiful, and I will come and visit them once a year for the two weeks that you have good weather <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPT may have it fare share of problems but, the thing I love most about our city is that it is a grand dame, it has history and class.... even that aweful Afrikaans accent that someone disliked, is grand... It so helped me in Amsterdam because the way afrikaans is spoken CPT is the closest to dutch you&#039;ll find in the country. 

LOVE Cape Town, Loathe the rest... We really should declare independence...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CPT may have it fare share of problems but, the thing I love most about our city is that it is a grand dame, it has history and class&#8230;. even that aweful Afrikaans accent that someone disliked, is grand&#8230; It so helped me in Amsterdam because the way afrikaans is spoken CPT is the closest to dutch you&#8217;ll find in the country. </p>
<p>LOVE Cape Town, Loathe the rest&#8230; We really should declare independence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should make it that people from Johannesburg and Durban need visa&#039;s to come to Cape Town. Every Durbanite i work with, says they could not leave the place quick enough after matriculating. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should make it that people from Johannesburg and Durban need visa&#8217;s to come to Cape Town. Every Durbanite i work with, says they could not leave the place quick enough after matriculating. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Viva La Dirtbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viva La Dirtbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dirtbin!    There’s this turf war going on. Cape Town versus Durban. Peeps are getting fired up, calling each other out and throwing down with the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dirtbin!    There’s this turf war going on. Cape Town versus Durban. Peeps are getting fired up, calling each other out and throwing down with the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time i went to Cape Town to jol, i had a genuinely great time, and enjoyed whatever and wherever - with whoever...
Not a few weeks later back in Durban, chilling at my local watering hole (Thunder), some guy starts bitching about the live act or the establishment or something, but starts his sentence with: &quot;In Cape Town, bla bla bla bla...&quot; FOR F**K SAKES dude, can&#039;t you just be and enjoy whats happening around you, without &#039;comparing&#039;?    Can&#039;t we all just relax and love each other rather than flip out ?  
Love to all: even moaning Capetonians stuck in Durban :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time i went to Cape Town to jol, i had a genuinely great time, and enjoyed whatever and wherever &#8211; with whoever&#8230;<br />
Not a few weeks later back in Durban, chilling at my local watering hole (Thunder), some guy starts bitching about the live act or the establishment or something, but starts his sentence with: &#8220;In Cape Town, bla bla bla bla&#8230;&#8221; FOR F**K SAKES dude, can&#8217;t you just be and enjoy whats happening around you, without &#8216;comparing&#8217;?    Can&#8217;t we all just relax and love each other rather than flip out ?<br />
Love to all: even moaning Capetonians stuck in Durban <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sago1</title>
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		<dc:creator>sago1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, precious! she know some people from athlone. and gugs. amazing! pretty much sums up cape town for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, precious! she know some people from athlone. and gugs. amazing! pretty much sums up cape town for me.</p>
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		<title>By: govender, the other</title>
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		<dc:creator>govender, the other</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe durban and cape town arent that different after all? &quot;The modern city of Durban dates from 1824, when a party of 25 men, under British Lieutenant F. G. Farewell, arrived from the British Colony in the Cape and established themselves on the northern shore of the Bay of Natal, in what is now Farewell Square. The previous year, Lieutenant Farewell had taken shelter there during a violent storm, and had built a small settlement. With Farewell was the adventurer Henry Fynn. Fynn befriended the Zulu King, Shaka (claiming, falsely, to be an envoy of King George), and having helped him to recover from a stab wound received in battle. In thanks, Shaka granted Fynn some prime land, a &quot;25-mile strip of coast, a hundred miles in depth&quot; (over 9,000sqkm). Fynn styled himself &#039;King of Natal&#039; and took numerous Zulu wives, producing many children by them. On the 23rd June 1835, at a meeting of the 35 white residents in this ‘kingdom’, it was decided to build a town and name it D&#039;Urban after Sir Benjamin D&#039;Urban, then Governor of the Cape.&quot; http://guides.travelchannel.com/durban/city-guides/historical-background</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe durban and cape town arent that different after all? &#8220;The modern city of Durban dates from 1824, when a party of 25 men, under British Lieutenant F. G. Farewell, arrived from the British Colony in the Cape and established themselves on the northern shore of the Bay of Natal, in what is now Farewell Square. The previous year, Lieutenant Farewell had taken shelter there during a violent storm, and had built a small settlement. With Farewell was the adventurer Henry Fynn. Fynn befriended the Zulu King, Shaka (claiming, falsely, to be an envoy of King George), and having helped him to recover from a stab wound received in battle. In thanks, Shaka granted Fynn some prime land, a &#8220;25-mile strip of coast, a hundred miles in depth&#8221; (over 9,000sqkm). Fynn styled himself &#8216;King of Natal&#8217; and took numerous Zulu wives, producing many children by them. On the 23rd June 1835, at a meeting of the 35 white residents in this ‘kingdom’, it was decided to build a town and name it D&#8217;Urban after Sir Benjamin D&#8217;Urban, then Governor of the Cape.&#8221; <a href="http://guides.travelchannel.com/durban/city-guides/historical-background" rel="nofollow">http://guides.travelchannel.com/durban/city-guides/historical-background</a></p>
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		<title>By: mundundu</title>
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		<dc:creator>mundundu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>god, you people trip me out. 

if you can&#039;t handle *cape town* drivers, how would you expect to survive in, oh, lagos? or nairobi? or kinshasa? [or london? or rome?]

and really, i don&#039;t think cape town drivers are that bad. i try not to drive because i don&#039;t like people in my way, but when i&#039;m behind the wheel, my only gripe is with the koeberg interchange, which is, literally, down the street from my house.

i don&#039;t understand the appeal of gated communities. a gilded cage is still a cage. but if that&#039;s what people want....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god, you people trip me out. </p>
<p>if you can&#8217;t handle *cape town* drivers, how would you expect to survive in, oh, lagos? or nairobi? or kinshasa? [or london? or rome?]</p>
<p>and really, i don&#8217;t think cape town drivers are that bad. i try not to drive because i don&#8217;t like people in my way, but when i&#8217;m behind the wheel, my only gripe is with the koeberg interchange, which is, literally, down the street from my house.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t understand the appeal of gated communities. a gilded cage is still a cage. but if that&#8217;s what people want&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: govender, the other</title>
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		<dc:creator>govender, the other</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodafternoon Ms Sevasti

I see that my reflection; on the fact that D&#039;Urban was named about Benni D&#039;Urban, the governor of the Cape Colony, under whose generosity the Colony of Natal existed, before the importation of my ancestors to save the Colony of Natal from bankruptcy, in 1859/60; was not overt enough.

http://www.southafrica-travel.net/kwazulu/edurban1.htm

http://flagspot.net/flags/za-kn-dur.html

So too was the reflection of the &quot;names&quot; of Bennie D&#039;Urban&#039;s wives, and where their relatives now live, i think :-)

As regards the suggestion that white people are wealthy and coloured people are poor, while it is true that the wealthiest people in the WesKaap in 1908 were coloured land owners and farmers and that indeed the coloured people have suffered greatly through deprivation and relocation, the facts are that while a few will escape the poverty of the flats and go to varsity and get middle class jobs (like your colleagues). the vast majority do not get this opportunity - for whatever reason.

Madam, it no surprise that people are offended by what I write, in this regard I take my cue, in this regard, from our leader, the late &quot;Dr&quot; Steven Bantu Biko; and write what i like... :-)

nonetheless, keep up the entertaining writing :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodafternoon Ms Sevasti</p>
<p>I see that my reflection; on the fact that D&#8217;Urban was named about Benni D&#8217;Urban, the governor of the Cape Colony, under whose generosity the Colony of Natal existed, before the importation of my ancestors to save the Colony of Natal from bankruptcy, in 1859/60; was not overt enough.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.southafrica-travel.net/kwazulu/edurban1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.southafrica-travel.net/kwazulu/edurban1.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://flagspot.net/flags/za-kn-dur.html" rel="nofollow">http://flagspot.net/flags/za-kn-dur.html</a></p>
<p>So too was the reflection of the &#8220;names&#8221; of Bennie D&#8217;Urban&#8217;s wives, and where their relatives now live, i think <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As regards the suggestion that white people are wealthy and coloured people are poor, while it is true that the wealthiest people in the WesKaap in 1908 were coloured land owners and farmers and that indeed the coloured people have suffered greatly through deprivation and relocation, the facts are that while a few will escape the poverty of the flats and go to varsity and get middle class jobs (like your colleagues). the vast majority do not get this opportunity &#8211; for whatever reason.</p>
<p>Madam, it no surprise that people are offended by what I write, in this regard I take my cue, in this regard, from our leader, the late &#8220;Dr&#8221; Steven Bantu Biko; and write what i like&#8230; <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>nonetheless, keep up the entertaining writing <img src='http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: govender, the other</title>
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		<dc:creator>govender, the other</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
As the self proclaimed Lord Mayor of Durban, and the Honourary Consul General of the Durban Fretus Society; the &quot;chip on my soldier&quot; is a throwback to my youth when we were bred in the belief that one must be prepared to die to protect the realm. As a patriotic citizen of the Sovereign Kingdom of KwaZulu, I find that my response is no more than would be expected from a person in my position.

Kind regards,
His Worship, the Lord Mayor of D&#039;Urban</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the self proclaimed Lord Mayor of Durban, and the Honourary Consul General of the Durban Fretus Society; the &#8220;chip on my soldier&#8221; is a throwback to my youth when we were bred in the belief that one must be prepared to die to protect the realm. As a patriotic citizen of the Sovereign Kingdom of KwaZulu, I find that my response is no more than would be expected from a person in my position.</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
His Worship, the Lord Mayor of D&#8217;Urban</p>
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