Comments on: Fired for blogging http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:41:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: matthewbuckland.com » The blogger who got fired http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-8555 matthewbuckland.com » The blogger who got fired Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:45:48 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-8555 [...] Sowetan, ostensibly for blogging confidential information about the company (Arthur Goldstuck provides commentary and background on the event). The reason it’s attracted attention is that it’s the first case of a [...] [...] Sowetan, ostensibly for blogging confidential information about the company (Arthur Goldstuck provides commentary and background on the event). The reason it’s attracted attention is that it’s the first case of a [...]

]]> By: Nick http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-8528 Nick Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:26:26 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-8528 Blogging is like putting posters up all over the neigborhood. Lots of people are going to see what you've put up, and obviously, since you put them up, what you say can be used against you. Makes sense doesn't it? Blogging is like putting posters up all over the neigborhood. Lots of people are going to see what you’ve put up, and obviously, since you put them up, what you say can be used against you. Makes sense doesn’t it?

]]> By:   Disgruntled sub-editor just refuses to let go by Justin Hartman http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-8354   Disgruntled sub-editor just refuses to let go by Justin Hartman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:13:33 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-8354 [...] Some other bloggers feel quite opinionated about this issue and are all claiming, directly or indirectly, that Kriel was fired because he blogged - not because he broke company policy. [...] [...] Some other bloggers feel quite opinionated about this issue and are all claiming, directly or indirectly, that Kriel was fired because he blogged – not because he broke company policy. [...]

]]> By: Bloggers need legal protection | Cape Town news http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-8343 Bloggers need legal protection | Cape Town news Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:33:35 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-8343 [...] nevermind journalists who get fired for blogging about their screwed up working conditions, it’s practically EVERYONE who has gotten the [...] [...] nevermind journalists who get fired for blogging about their screwed up working conditions, it’s practically EVERYONE who has gotten the [...]

]]> By: Jude Mathurine http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-7776 Jude Mathurine Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:26:12 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-7776 FORMER Sowetan sub Llewellyn Kriel’s dubious honor as the first South African sacked for blogging may be undeserved. About three months ago, I was confidentially informed of an incident involving a motoring magazine, a media powerhouse and another journo-blogger. That matter was resolved rather more quietly. But I’m sworn to secrecy. See http://nml.ru.ac.za/blog/jude/2007/12/05/casualty-ignorance.html for more... FORMER Sowetan sub Llewellyn Kriel’s dubious honor as the first South African sacked for blogging may be undeserved. About three months ago, I was confidentially informed of an incident involving a motoring magazine, a media powerhouse and another journo-blogger. That matter was resolved rather more quietly. But I’m sworn to secrecy. See http://nml.ru.ac.za/blog/jude/2007/12/05/casualty-ignorance.html for more…

]]> By: Liansky http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-7554 Liansky Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:42:39 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-7554 I hate myself for opening this page. I've just wasted 30 seconds of my life. He signed an agreement and he should have abided by it. That is how it works when you work for a profit maximising entity that operates in a competitive enviroment. Stop blogging and do something useful with your life. I hate myself for opening this page. I’ve just wasted 30 seconds of my life. He signed an agreement and he should have abided by it. That is how it works when you work for a profit maximising entity that operates in a competitive enviroment. Stop blogging and do something useful with your life.

]]> By: Robert http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-7547 Robert Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:25:34 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-7547 While I am sorry for Llewelyn Kriel, let's be clear about one thing: he was NOT fired for blogging. He was fired for what he said, not how he said it (although I think the company would have had a case to fire him for how he said it too: he was, after al, writing for a competitor). You may disagree with Avusa's reasons for firing him, but let's be clear about the reasons. If he had made his comments in the form of a letter to another newspaper, or an article in another newspaper, he would also have been fired. It's the message, not the medium. While I am sorry for Llewelyn Kriel, let’s be clear about one thing: he was NOT fired for blogging. He was fired for what he said, not how he said it (although I think the company would have had a case to fire him for how he said it too: he was, after al, writing for a competitor). You may disagree with Avusa’s reasons for firing him, but let’s be clear about the reasons. If he had made his comments in the form of a letter to another newspaper, or an article in another newspaper, he would also have been fired. It’s the message, not the medium.

]]> By: Thought Leader » Anne Taylor » News companies are paddling without a compass http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-7507 Thought Leader » Anne Taylor » News companies are paddling without a compass Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:45:38 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-7507 [...] the week that a South African journalist was fired for moaning about his employer on a competitor’s website, the Los Angeles Times launched a [...] [...] the week that a South African journalist was fired for moaning about his employer on a competitor’s website, the Los Angeles Times launched a [...]

]]> By: Justin Hartman http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-7414 Justin Hartman Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:17:41 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-7414 Albertus we are respectful to corporate authority because we all signed contracts before we started working at our respective companies. To ignore the clauses in these contracts is just plain stupidity and if we don't like what the contract says we have a choice to not work there. Seeing as "we" all sign these contracts we have no choice but to respect corporate authority. Albertus we are respectful to corporate authority because we all signed contracts before we started working at our respective companies.

To ignore the clauses in these contracts is just plain stupidity and if we don’t like what the contract says we have a choice to not work there.

Seeing as “we” all sign these contracts we have no choice but to respect corporate authority.

]]> By: Albertus van Wyk http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-7398 Albertus van Wyk Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:40:23 +0000 http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/amablogoblogo/2007/11/30/fired-for-blogging/#comment-7398 I'm not a lawyer (I'm a poor journo) and I'm not sure how strong Kriel's case is legally, but my feeling is that just because this kind of corporate behaviour is usual and conventional, it doesn't mean that it is right. Can I be fired for saying that my company has frozen all vacations in a bar in front of ten people? It is not a secret that newspapers and magazines are entering a tough period and cost cutting is going on across the board, so this kind of information could hardly be called a trade secret. I don't think there's anything particularly "new" about blogs as a medium, but why should Llewellyn not be allowed to say this to people? Why are we so respectful towards corporate authority? I’m not a lawyer (I’m a poor journo) and I’m not sure how strong Kriel’s case is legally, but my feeling is that just because this kind of corporate behaviour is usual and conventional, it doesn’t mean that it is right. Can I be fired for saying that my company has frozen all vacations in a bar in front of ten people? It is not a secret that newspapers and magazines are entering a tough period and cost cutting is going on across the board, so this kind of information could hardly be called a trade secret.
I don’t think there’s anything particularly “new” about blogs as a medium, but why should Llewellyn not be allowed to say this to people?
Why are we so respectful towards corporate authority?

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